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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 10:40:05 AM

Title: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 10:40:05 AM: Just got a phone call. Our neighbor and friend was raised in Council, Idaho. They were down in Adams county for the county fair this last week. Her father lives right in the open fielded valley just out of town. (not out in the mountains)

Her father was telling them about the wolves coming in around the horse corrals this winter. They never seen them, but the tracks would be in the fresh snow in the mornings after a snow.

One night they were late getting back to the house after the rodeo, our friend was putting her horses away at 12:30 pm and she hears a bunch of howling just down the valley about a mile away toward the neighors farm. At 5AM the next morning the neighbors discovered that wolves came into their horse corral right next to their home and barn and killed one of their horses, they ate the whole rear end out of the horse. Sounded just like what many of those elk photos look like that I have been seeing. Authoritues have been notified and this has been confirmed. Let's see if it gets reported anywhere by the news.

Thought you guys would be interested to hear this story.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: CoryTDF on July 29, 2009, 10:48:48 AM: I love wolves!!! :mgun: :mgun: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :hunter: :guns: :hunter: :mgun:

They make great coats!!!
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: Northwest75 on July 29, 2009, 10:54:59 AM: Thats sucks A#@!. I'd be sitting up ambush on the roof of the barn. Then dig, bury and keep silent. ;)
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: Slider on July 29, 2009, 11:45:43 AM: .
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: wolfbait on July 29, 2009, 03:31:34 PM: Quote from: CoryTDF on July 29, 2009, 10:48:48 AM
I love wolves!!! :mgun: :mgun: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :hunter: :guns: :hunter: :mgun:

They make great coats!!!

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Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: rasbo on July 29, 2009, 03:39:57 PM: Im thinking with wolf numbers rising,I cant help but to wonder,there has to be some ranchers and farmers,culling the wolfs on the quiet side.I would..So how many more wolves would be out then,running the area?
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: PolarBear on July 29, 2009, 03:40:14 PM: Wolves killed a colt in a small pasture on the San Poil about 2 miles south of Republic last winter.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 29, 2009, 03:50:12 PM: :mgun: :mgun:
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 04:16:33 PM: PolarBear do you know if that was confirmed by WDFW or Sherriff?
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: PolarBear on July 29, 2009, 04:20:05 PM: Nope, just by acquaintances. I think that they wanted to keep it quiet so they could go looking for wolves. It could be just a bunch of b.s. but I have a tendency to believe these folks. They also had a foal killed by a cougar in the sam field a few years ago and I did see the pics of that. They also shot the cat.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 04:23:54 PM: Can't hardly blame them, they probably figure they'd get no help from the "G".
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: PolarBear on July 29, 2009, 04:27:30 PM: Well, you know how a lot of the folks around there feel about the law. Sometimes they can be a hinderance in matters such as this.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 04:43:37 PM: Wolves were delisted by the Feds in RM states which included Eastern WA (roughly region 1). Once there are enough confirmed wolves in this area the state can delist and the Wildlife Commission could set a season. I am pretty sure this is the steps for this process.

So if we can convince some of these peolple to turn in their problems and sightings it will help in the end. I knw that not everyone will, but all reports will help in the end.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: mulehunter on July 29, 2009, 09:30:31 PM: Thats bummer about Horse. I am sure GameFish wont do anything about it. Just sad.. Sometime you spend raise and working on ur favorite Horse and Wolves just take it. Life is never Fair.

Mulehunter :bash:
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: MichaelJ on July 29, 2009, 09:41:11 PM: If wolves killed one of my horses I'd be shootin for sure...

As far as reports go, unless you get a picture, hair/feces sample, or something that the wildlife dept can POSITIVELY CONFIRM it was a wolf you saw than the report is pretty much useless... they may say "hey thats interesting, I wouldn't doubt it" but I doubt they could use your information in a report to help delist and set up management practices... sad deal but thats my :twocents:

Michael
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: wolfbait on July 29, 2009, 10:33:48 PM: yep, we already saw some of their investigating. And like you Michael, any wolves jump my broncs, the investigators will have a blood trail they can follow, all 2 ft of it.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: wolfbait on July 29, 2009, 10:37:36 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on July 29, 2009, 03:40:14 PM
Wolves killed a colt in a small pasture on the San Poil about 2 miles south of Republic last winter.

Wasn't it Republic where the deer are all trying to move into town little while back?
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 10:40:33 PM: That is bad about that horse in republic, it's probably just a matter of time until there is another kill. Many times, once an animal gets started on domestic livestock, they eventually find more. :twocents:
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: 7mmfan on July 29, 2009, 10:54:46 PM: Nothing REALLY confirmed but i've heard of 3 wolf sightings in the last week in the the Manastash area...
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 11:02:28 PM: 7mmfan...can you find out any more info about them?
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: bearpaw on July 29, 2009, 11:17:48 PM: When livestock, humans, or personal property are killed or endangered by wildlife you need to call the WDFW immediately and report it.

Every now and then when I am available I help with cougar complaints. There have been times that the Dept recieved a call, they contacted an enforcement agent, he contacted me, and I have been on location in less than 2 hours from the time an animal was attacked and it was called in.

But if the people wait and think about it until the next day the odds are greatly reduced of catching the culprit animal. It is important to report things as soon as possible so the evidence can be analyzed and proper action taken.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 02, 2009, 11:24:29 AM: Once the herds of wild animals thin out and pasture grass burners. The humane society might relocate some to zoo's. Don't they look a lot like yotes? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: MichaelJ on August 02, 2009, 10:20:00 PM: Thats the one good thing about wolves moving in Grant CO Oregon... they'll hopefully take down the wild horse herd here as they're really hammering the ecosystem here and the agencies can't do anything about it... wild horse facilities are way overstocked, the horse market is down, you can't slaughter them, its WAY illegal to shoot them... etc

Michael
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: Wacenturion on August 03, 2009, 11:20:50 AM: Of all the success stories in wildlife management over the past few decades, wolves was one we did not need.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: chevysquid on August 08, 2009, 10:28:31 AM: As the saying goes, "Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up".
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: wolfbait on August 08, 2009, 11:20:38 AM: IF those in charge don't give us a management plan we can live with, such as delisting and hunting these wolves to control the population, then yes, there will be plenty of the sss going on. I don't think Washington can handle the delist/relist games that the other states have had to go through and are still going through. I think most of us have learned from the other states that these wolves will ruin hunting in Washington and cause financial problems for many people. Why go through this same scenario? At this time it has been stated that perhaps Washington has more wolves than Montana. We need an accurate count of the amount of wolves that we have now. It would appear that we cannot go on what the WDFL biologists' wolf count is.
Title: Re: Wolf Kills Horse
Post by: PolarBear on August 08, 2009, 12:11:56 PM: Quote from: wolfbait on July 29, 2009, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: PolarBear on July 29, 2009, 03:40:14 PM
Wolves killed a colt in a small pasture on the San Poil about 2 miles south of Republic last winter.

Wasn't it Republic where the deer are all trying to move into town little while back?
The deer have been in town for years. As soon as the tribe and other hunters start cruising the hills the deer head towards town and farmers fields. The same goes when the snow hits hard. I watched a 26" 4x5 mulie buck walk through the parking lot of the fire station last late archery season. It is funny to see the out of towners try to figure a way to shoot one of those bucks wandering town during season.