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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: wolfbait on July 29, 2009, 01:51:35 PM
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Northeast Environmentalists Want To Protect Interbred Canids (Dogs)
March 20, 2009
Where will the absolute insanity stop when it comes to efforts by extremists to end hunting, fishing and trapping, close off lands to human use, strip us of our rights and destroy our god given right in the pursuit of happiness?
It has gotten so bad that a group, made up of representatives from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts and New York, have petitioned the Department of Interior in order to place protections under the Endangered Species Act for any interbred species of dogs, coyotes, wolves or any combination of the above, claiming these all to be unique species.
In accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act and/or the Endangered Species Act, we hereby petition the U.S. Department of Interior and the Service to regulate the commerce or taking, and treat as endangered species in the States of New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine and Massachusetts, coyotes (Canis latrans), coyote/gray wolf hybrids (Canis latrans x Canis lupus), eastern wolves (Canis lycaon), eastern wolf/gray wolf hybrids (Canis lycaon x Canis lupus), coyote/eastern wolf hybrids (Canis latrans x Canis lycaon), and coyote/eastern wolf/gray wolf hybrids (Canis latrans x Canis lycaon x Canis lupus) because of their close resemblance to the federally endangered and protected gray wolf.
In accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act and/or the U.S. Endangered Species Act, we also hereby petition the U.S. Department of Interior and the Service: (1) to establish a Northeastern Gray Wolf Distinct Population Segment consisting of the States of New York, Vermont New Hampshire, Maine and Massachusetts; and, (2) to develop and implement a Northeastern Gray Wolf Recovery Plan.
Part of this groups reasoning is that with open hunting and trapping seasons on eastern coyote, because some of these coyotes my have interbred with an Eastern gray wolf, it should be protected in order to protect the gray wolf.
We seem only now willing to admit that wolves and domestic dogs have been interbreeding for centuries. Recently it was determined that what made wolves black was the result of interbreeding with dogs. We’ve even found in historic writings, like those of Teddy Roosevelt’s, that Indians and trappers/hunters used to do a lot of interbreeding with wolves and their hunting dogs to develop a dog that could stand up to wolves.
Neither the gray wolf nor the eastern coyote is threatened or in any danger of extinction. To think that we now should consider protecting mongrel dogs in the wild is absolutely ridiculous. When the USFWS gets done reviewing this petition, it should be immediately tossed in the garbage can.
Tom Remington
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2009/03/20/northeast-environmentalists-want-to-protect-interbred-canids-dogs/
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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What idiots...wolves and coyotes do not typically interbreed in fact wolves kill coyotes as they are competition and a threat......these lunatics hate humanity so much they will make up all kinds of assinine stories and try to sell them as reality...they even have their own posse of scientists to create scientific data....
it is not new information that the basis of ever breed of dog today is a wolf this is not news.....genetic studies reveal that the dna of saluki's and some of the other sight hounds is closer to wolves than other breeds of dogs, meaning if you put wolf dna, saluki dna and say blue heeler dna side by side the saluki matches the wolf more closely than the blyue heeler, and strangely most of these breeds are ancient hunting breeds with several developed for the purpose of taking down wolves and other large game....using these idiots logic all dogs should be considered endangered because they have genetics that are related to wolves and can interbreed with wolves.....
frickin stupid useless wastes of skin :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Actually the Canadian wolves have been cross breeding with the coyotes in minnesota and those states. Some of those coyote hunters have shot 60 to 80 pound coyotes. Also what they are finding out is the native wolves that were smaller, these wolves have been killing them, and cross breeding with them also. DNA test show that they have not found any pure bred native wolves. Some of the hunting forums in those states sugest not mentioning any big coyotes that they shot.
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seems like I read somewhere about wolves getting bred out on the east coast...maybe some of the info on the other wolf threads....
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Dogs, of all breeds can cross...Duh! That is where ALL domestic breeds come from. If the activist actually had an education about the animals they are trying to protect, instead of being idiots, The would LIBERALISE, if not an outright bounty on the killing of coyotes to protect the purity of the strain.... :stup: