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Title: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 03, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
 :dunno:

No luck on getting pics. Went below 3 miles down where I found Fresh Wolves Tracks between river and top TrailCamera where Cattles traffic to river to drink.  :bash:  I should have put between where Cattles are. Dang I was very CLOSE to get good pictures! Dang...
Here few pictures what I am working on catch a picture of them.


Next time I will move TrailCamera down nearly Aspen Lake instead North of McClurre Mt There is some different pack hanging out North of McCLurre and south of Poorman RD somewhere. But  I found Another Wolves pack right at Metow Wildlife Recreation AREA below Aspen Lake also some south of Lake Patterson. U should be able to find them somewhere.  ;)


Mulehunter  :)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 03, 2009, 09:36:10 PM
More tracks on Cattle's trail in mountain.  :bash:
 
Mulehunter   :o

Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mossback91 on August 03, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
Those arent wolves them are cows
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bear on August 03, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Those arent wolves them are cows
I'm not sure.  We better ask Dman. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Ray on August 03, 2009, 10:15:02 PM
I thought there were only 2 confirmed wolf packs in WA?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 04, 2009, 08:21:03 AM
It depends on who is doing the confirming.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Ray on August 04, 2009, 08:27:13 AM
 :chuckle:

I was definitely being a  smart :ass:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Machias on August 04, 2009, 08:38:53 AM
You need to stop hitting your thumb with the hammer.   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2009, 08:58:47 AM
keep after it mulehunter, would be great to get photos on here of wolves, and you know where to find them.... :tup:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: zackmioli on August 04, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
that track looks a little small to be a wolf to me. im no expert though.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 04, 2009, 09:25:09 AM
I think those wolves are smaller than the Idaho wolves....mulehunter knows where they are at, it is only a matter of time and he will probably be posting photos...he knows landowners who also confirmed sightings and wolves howling in the same area.... :tup:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 04, 2009, 09:30:28 AM
The Patterson wolves, I BELIEVE are the gardner bunch which were Red wolves or the smaller natives.  I've yet to figure out why they are where they are except the game is really concentrated right there.  That pack has been around for decades but is growing in strength.  They move around a lot.  I doubt they will be there long.  They are a different animal than the Lookout pack.  I can't see his pics since I am at work, but just affirming kinda what bearpaw was saying.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: alecvg on August 04, 2009, 11:05:11 AM
Those arent wolves them are cows
I'm not sure.  We better ask Dman. :chuckle:

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
Have u seen this one hanging out up there in Twisp North??

Mulehunter  ;)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: littlebuf on August 04, 2009, 06:42:59 PM
you should work on your hammer swinging skills first then work on pictures  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2009, 06:54:41 PM
 :) It was two years ago. Very old picture before WDFW Captured her. Where have u all been doing? Why not u people put TrailCamera up this mountain. Post some GOOD Pictures?  :dunno: They are almost OVER 20 Wolves in Twisp and Wintrop. Maybe MORE!  :bash:

I am working on it. It only got squirel Pic, Dang. I am hoping to get GOOD pictures on this View with Okanagon Wolves pack. Maybe u people better be NICE to me! OR I wont post it.  :yike: I also have three Pictures of Cattles kill by wolves.

Mulehunter   ;)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on August 04, 2009, 07:00:45 PM
This is all cool and stuff, but nobody is going to do anything.  It's going to be like Idaho where our herds will be decimated before they allow any hunting.  Do you think they will open a hunting season on 20 wolves?  Nice picture though.  Am I missing something?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 04, 2009, 07:10:11 PM
This is all cool and stuff, but nobody is going to do anything.  It's going to be like Idaho where our herds will be decimated before they allow any hunting. 

yup...... :(
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2009, 07:22:34 PM
This is all cool and stuff, but nobody is going to do anything.  It's going to be like Idaho where our herds will be decimated before they allow any hunting.  Do you think they will open a hunting season on 20 wolves?  Nice picture though.  Am I missing something?   :dunno:

 :chuckle: I wish! your not missing anything, Maybe u need head out there and get BEST picture out of your Camera! I am praying hard that Lord that someone accidently Post under WDFW website to OPEN hunting NOW on ALL WOLVES!!   :chuckle:   I know some of people on this site and from all over wa are in DENAIL about it. But I understand those people from ALL OVER washington doesnt want to believe that there is ALOT wolves in Okanagon Now, BUT... LOT Cattles KILLED by Wolves, I just MET those Ranchers last weekend, and they show us some pictures. I am sure you know Gary Rancher have LOT TO SAY!  :yike:  Also Cal Own a Cattle just born Calf then next day Calf Baby were GONE taken by Wolves pack and Killed Mother of Cow. GameDept were there investagtor it and know its for sure Wolves. But Scott F wouldnt support on Gamedept's Case.  :bash: Thats why it doesnt COUNT but BS!
U know what SCOTT F is one of MOST DANGEROUS GUY to listen! He will NOT take it blame on Wolves for all what they have killed on Rancher Livestock. TRUST ME! He is really pain in A%S!

I am sure u people doesnt care about it because people listen to Scott F on his side that is why he is hired!  >:(

People just need to know about whole his COMMENT on NEWSPAPER about Lookout Pack by Scott F. U will understand how he say! 



Mulehunter  :(
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 04, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Scott Fitkin is a MAJOR problem IMO.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on August 04, 2009, 07:25:25 PM
here's some intresting stuff.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 04, 2009, 10:06:01 PM
Please check this thread I post about Cal's Cattle kill.



http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,31180.msg371038/topicseen.html#new


Mulehunter  ;)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 05, 2009, 09:03:30 AM
hang in there mulehunter....I look forward to you hopefully getting some trailcam photos of wolves....don't worry about some of these guys comments...there are plenty of us who know your abilities....we recognize the good that can be accoplished with any additional photos to confirm there are wolves in Washington. :twocents:

 :hello:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2009, 09:05:53 AM
So, is one of you going to answer my question and tell me which Cal had his cattle eatin'.  PM would do just fine.  Is it Cal B or Cal M or who?
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 05, 2009, 09:35:56 AM
bone I put the answer on other thread. ranchers puting up with dam wolf attacks while SF sits on ass in office :bash:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 05, 2009, 09:47:20 AM
Larry Richner was owner of the cow, Cal Treser, was the game warden who knew it was wolves but, fitkin appears to be running the show for now.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Gotcha, Thanks! 
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 06, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
Gotcha, Thanks! 

Sorry I didnt see what you said, Well said Wolfbait


Mulehunter  ;)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 08, 2009, 10:03:03 AM
Nasty Female Wolf! BEST LEADER WOLF U ever know! U wont NEVER see her! She will RUN MILE MILEs away from all of us! She soo smart.

Mulehunter  :dunno:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: chevysquid on August 08, 2009, 10:24:23 AM
A buddy and I were deer hunting up north east on Winthrop at an area called soda springs 6 years ago and came across a wolf.  Told a ranger we ran across the next day and he laughed at us, thought we were full of it, said there are no wolves here.  It trotted by not more than 50 feet from us, was definately a wolf.  Who's laughing now!
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 08, 2009, 11:30:15 AM
A buddy and I were deer hunting up north east on Winthrop at an area called soda springs 6 years ago and came across a wolf.  Told a ranger we ran across the next day and he laughed at us, thought we were full of it, said there are no wolves here.  It trotted by not more than 50 feet from us, was definately a wolf.  Who's laughing now!
 

This has happened many times in the Methow Valley. Wolf sightings are not taken seriously by those you are reporting them to. They have known that the wolves were in the Methow Valley for several years and were told to keep quiet about it. There have been reports from different individuals that wolves were planted in the Methow drainage several years ago. It would appear that is still happening today.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Houndhunter on August 09, 2009, 07:47:25 AM
damnit cows :bash:??   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 09, 2009, 08:28:12 AM
A buddy and I were deer hunting up north east on Winthrop at an area called soda springs 6 years ago and came across a wolf.  Told a ranger we ran across the next day and he laughed at us, thought we were full of it, said there are no wolves here.  It trotted by not more than 50 feet from us, was definately a wolf.  Who's laughing now!

GEEZ 6 years of not know that Wolves were here. WOW We would NEVER knew it but Now we know where they are hanging out up there!  :)


 :chuckle:  I Totally Understand ya.. Our family talked to Dnr Forest and told them about it about 4 months before WDFW confirmed, DNR Forest laugh about it. Said  NO way your thinking it was Coyote! Give me BREAK!   >:(


So four months later, Biologlist start to work harder and found them, Confirmed. Well, See! We TRIED! See thats why People Never want this to be TRUE!  :bash:

 
Mulehunter 
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2009, 01:35:36 AM
Keep this thread going, I wonder if anyone else has reported wolf sightings that have been laughed off?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2009, 04:14:42 PM
I had several that I never reported.  Why, because I was afraid they'd shut the who damn drainage down like they did with the spotted owl.  If you saw one, you kept your mouth shut.  They wouldn't believe you anyway Any self respecting woodsman would have known they were here if they spent any time in the woods.  They'd also note the change in things as of late. 
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: runamuk on August 11, 2009, 04:26:23 PM
Keep this thread going, I wonder if anyone else has reported wolf sightings that have been laughed off?   :dunno:

back in 98 or 99 we lived in Ronald and spent a good amount of time in the general area hiking and camping.....on one trip we heard what I was certain was wolves howling.......we later found what appeared to be either wolf or wolf hybrid tracks..... I happened to be friends with a forest ranger at the time so asked her what she thought.  She said that yes there were wolves in the area and no it wasn't being announced and in fact was being denied to keep the peace and give the wolves a chance.  She also had recently seen a photo of a grizzly taken on Blewitt pass by a person who had no reason to fake something like that......we had heard from a few other people they had thought they'd seen a grizz but common wisdom was they were not that far south....so basically I don't believe what WDFW says I know what I saw and heard...wolves have been here much longer than they are saying.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2009, 04:33:08 PM
Yep Run, was black bear hunting, after a gorgeous Red one up in the valley a few years back.  I slipped in on "a bear" making a ruckus" and out stepped two grizz cubs and right behind them momma bear.  I just backed out.    Idabooner confirmed sign that looked like a large boar had been in the area as well.  I just walked away mouth shut.  One got smacked that year on Hwy 20 in his band new corvette and he was just laughed at. 
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
wolfbait has a funny story I'd like to tell if he is game.  Has something to do about rolling rocks and the forest service. LOL  I think he was invlved in that anyway. LOL
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 11, 2009, 05:39:16 PM
wolfbait has a funny story I'd like to tell if he is game.  Has something to do about rolling rocks and the forest service. LOL  I think he was invlved in that anyway. LOL

Have at it. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 11, 2009, 05:42:06 PM
99.9%  grizzly bear sighting :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: DeKuma on August 11, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Have not run across a wolf yet, but when I do, I am sure it was a coyote.............

I did run into a Griz up on Blewitt pass a few times and was told the first two times I was crazy, but the third time the Gamey admitted they were there but it was kept very quiet.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: woodswalker on August 11, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
I saw a grizz up in Martin Ck off the flanks of Mt Valhalla near Stevens Pass over 10 years ago, was told by the FS wienies that it was a cinnamon phase blacky....I KNEW better...we were told to STFU and not scare the hikers.

I saw this one at about 15 FEET...he was stealing my trout stringer out of the creek where I was fishing.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
Have not run across a wolf yet, but when I do, I am sure it was a coyote.............

I did run into a Griz up on Blewitt pass a few times and was told the first two times I was crazy, but the third time the Gamey admitted they were there but it was kept very quiet.

now thats silly, the WDFW should be telling everyone they are there and to be careful....
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: DeKuma on August 11, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
I thought it was pretty stupid myself, but then again, this is WDFW.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 11, 2009, 06:59:46 PM
I had several that I never reported.  Why, because I was afraid they'd shut the who damn drainage down like they did with the spotted owl.  If you saw one, you kept your mouth shut.  They wouldn't believe you anyway Any self respecting woodsman would have known they were here if they spent any time in the woods.  They'd also note the change in things as of late. 


 :yeah: 

Mulehunter   :)
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: mulehunter on August 11, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
Have not run across a wolf yet, but when I do, I am sure it was a coyote.............

I did run into a Griz up on Blewitt pass a few times and was told the first two times I was crazy, but the third time the Gamey admitted they were there but it was kept very quiet.

now thats silly, the WDFW should be telling everyone they are there and to be careful....



EXACTLY BearPaw!!!! Thats why I love to share with u all people what I found and what I know.

Mulehunter  ;)

Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 11, 2009, 07:53:08 PM
Quote
now thats silly, the WDFW should be telling everyone they are there and to be careful....

It's much easier to find missing hikers if we make sure they carry those little bells and Bear spray.

We could just look at and smell the piles of Bear crap in the woods.  :chuckle:

-Steve
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on August 11, 2009, 08:08:22 PM
A few years back, a guy going over the loup loup to okanogan kept seeing this guy pulling one of those big culvert grizzly bear traps into or out of the JR camp ground. So he got the guys licence plate number and ask his friendly county commissioner what was what. The commissioner called the wdwl and ask and they said they had no one in that area, didn't know what he was talking about, so he called someone a little higher up. Come to find out the wdwl had released a collered grizzly bear and now they were trying to catch it agin, to prove there were bears in that area. So now ask me agin just how much I trust wdwl?
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2009, 08:29:58 PM
mulehunter...I know you will most likely be the person who will post the most photos.....keep those trail cams busy....
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: hayes202 on September 12, 2009, 07:06:05 PM
If they deny they are there that means it a free shot :P after all they said it must of been a black bear or coyote
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: OKbowhunter on September 13, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
I would like to add something to this thread.....I have a very good friend that was bear hunting above conconully and came across a wolf. he said there was no doubt when 20 minutes later they were howling. Has anyone else heard of wolves up there. Its only a few miles as the crow flies to the methow pack.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Wyoming08 on September 13, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
Keep this thread going, I wonder if anyone else has reported wolf sightings that have been laughed off?   :dunno:
 :beatdeadhorse:
Ask all of us southwest guys their in the coweeman
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on September 14, 2009, 03:41:08 AM
I would like to add something to this thread.....I have a very good friend that was bear hunting above conconully and came across a wolf. he said there was no doubt when 20 minutes later they were howling. Has anyone else heard of wolves up there. Its only a few miles as the crow flies to the methow pack.

The Methow pack is the worlds largest wolf pack, upwards of 150 wolves in the one pack. Tell him to name the pack because, the WDWL are not in any hurry to find wolves, they want to drag the new "wolf pack" sightings out as long as they can in order to asure a very large wolf population in Washington. Part of the Methow pack is on MCclure Mt. tonight, howling up a storm, the main reason I am up at this hour.  :bash: :bash: >:( :guns:
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bearpaw on September 14, 2009, 03:47:13 AM
Keep this thread going, I wonder if anyone else has reported wolf sightings that have been laughed off?   :dunno:
 :beatdeadhorse:
Ask all of us southwest guys their in the coweeman

wyoming.....what can you tell me about the coweeman?
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: OKbowhunter on September 14, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
some nights I'm real slow to catch on  ;)      I do not recall where and what I was talking about. I think I will try to go on a coyote hunt later this fall though..... :o
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: bornforhorns on September 14, 2009, 04:25:11 PM
I have relatives who claimed they saw wolves in the Twisp River Drainage at less than a hundred yards for several minutes...it wasn't until I heard them howl myself a few years later in the same area that I was convinced that their there, no doubt, 100%.  Saw tracks and fragments of bone from a fresh kill, the chunk of bone had been regurgitated in the middle of the trail...should of saved it for DNA I guess.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: wolfbait on September 14, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
I think the last five years WDFW have been really dumping wolves in the Methow Valley, more people are coming forward with having seen wolves being released. I wondered why the WDFW jump up and down so much trying to defend themselves. They sure don't want it coming out public what they have done. Lied to the public how many times now? Not that it matters, they seem to think they have no one to answer to. It is starting to screw their credibility all to hell though. First wolf pack in how many years? what are they claiming now? seven wolves in the Methow, they are starting to become the number one joke. I would guess the tall stories that they put in the papers are for the people who have no clue, people that would trade everything to hear the howl of a wolf. The same people who are selling there micro ranch livestock, and those who's dogs have been eaten by wolves and they won't report it because they love the wolves. I wonder how they are going to feel when they can't let their kids outdoors to play without standing by with guns. I bet they will really enjoy the country life then,eh.
Title: Re: Found Wolves pack!
Post by: Wyoming08 on September 15, 2009, 08:59:58 AM

Down here in the Southwest up in the Coweeman, we do alot of elk and deer hunting up past headquarters and when the big game is slow we go after the coyotes up there.  We began howling one day and got several to answer back, then they all started to sing, it was really cool to hear them all together. Then one started to howl with a deep  deep howl.  All the coyotes COMPLETELY shut up.  This one howled 3 different times.  Never saw anything, but we hunted above Afton WY 3 years back in area G and on the Last day we heard this same sounding Howl, and the guys we were with said, ya there are several wolf packs up here....It was spooky then, and it raised the hair on the back of our necks here.  Talk to any of the locals around here and I'm sure others have had the samw experience!!! Lets see what the WDFW has to say about the SW having Wolfs????
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