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Title: multi season hunting
Post by: superdown on August 05, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
I am curious if anyone else thinks we should be all be able to hunt like we have a multi season tag as long as we use muzzleloaders in muzzloader season and so on. or until we fill our tag.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: superdown on August 05, 2009, 12:38:32 PM
do you think that would still be the case if we dropped the drawings for all the extra tags ? my thought is that it would give you more time to get your animal not more animals. There is also eastern and western bear why not just get your bear. I would be satisfied with getting my one deer, elk, bear a year not multiple of any.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: boneaddict on August 05, 2009, 12:40:32 PM
hmmmm have to ponder that thought for a bit.  Good question. 
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: dreamingbig on August 05, 2009, 12:56:11 PM
Nay, make that double Nay.  Not a good idea in my opinion.  The multi-season permits allow for this and it is not a change that should be considered.  I would support dropping the eastside vs westside selection for the late season elk hunts.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: bucklucky on August 05, 2009, 01:04:08 PM
I think the should sell them to Taxidermists only so we get a chance to hunt during the season  :chuckle:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 05, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
More time to get your animal would significantly increase the total harvest.  A lot of guys don't get "their" one animal now, so any additional days in the field will only increase the harvest rates.  

Seasons would also be more crowded, which is already a problem under the current system.  
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: B.G.hunter on August 05, 2009, 01:57:23 PM
i like the concept of the multi season tag but i believe it is too expensive for the average person if they draw.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: superdown on August 05, 2009, 02:02:17 PM
I think it would make it so they weren't taking the first legal animal they saw allowing the animal's to reach maturity. I know i would pass on a lot more animals if i had more opportunity to pick and choose without feeling like it might be my only chance for the year.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on August 05, 2009, 02:12:40 PM
I think the should sell them to Taxidermists only so we get a chance to hunt during the season  :chuckle:

Charlie want me send you pictures  :tung: :tung:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: minihunter88 on August 05, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
I think the multi season tag is a good idea. I think that most people don't have the motivation to learn a new way of hunting. Most people stick with what they are comfortable with. Another option to go with this is you pick eastern or western you cant have both and that would probably help with the significant crowds. Another thing is that no one would feel rushed. It would be more of a leisure thing. Not the weekend warrior thing where you need to get in and get out.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: robodad on August 05, 2009, 02:32:51 PM
Or triple the amount of multiseason tags and have the multiseason tagholders chose between early and late season but still be able to apply for east or west tags ??  :dunno:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: CoryTDF on August 05, 2009, 02:35:37 PM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: jackelope on August 05, 2009, 08:53:51 PM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.

it would be a slaughter.

i would think it would be better to see LESS multi-season tags sold at the same price. weed out those who draw it and don't buy it because they don't want to pay for it.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: blindpig on August 05, 2009, 09:27:57 PM
I'm all for it.   :twocents:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: WABONEHNTR on August 05, 2009, 09:39:57 PM
NO WAY! To much pressure on the animals already.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: Old Mule on August 09, 2009, 11:59:03 AM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.
:yeah:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: bobcat on August 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
do you think that would still be the case if we dropped the drawings for all the extra tags ? my thought is that it would give you more time to get your animal not more animals.

How about instead of getting rid of the special permit hunts, they get rid of the general seasons? That's what they need to do in my opinion, at least for mule deer and elk in eastern wa.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: Bigshooter on August 09, 2009, 01:20:28 PM
do you think that would still be the case if we dropped the drawings for all the extra tags ? my thought is that it would give you more time to get your animal not more animals.

How about instead of getting rid of the special permit hunts, they get rid of the general seasons? That's what they need to do in my opinion, at least for mule deer and elk in eastern wa.

+1
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: bearpaw on August 09, 2009, 02:25:31 PM
I voted not sure......

We can not increase pressure or wildlife numbers will suffer even more, which means if a person could hunt all three seasons, they would have to be short seasons, or draw hunts.

Our wildlife can not withstand a free-for-all, there are tradeoffs either way you look at it.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: gasman on August 09, 2009, 03:00:14 PM
I think it would make it so they weren't taking the first legal animal they saw allowing the animal's to reach maturity. I know i would pass on a lot more animals if i had more opportunity to pick and choose without feeling like it might be my only chance for the year.


I am with superdown........

I would not feel so rushed to shoot the first leagal animal i see. It would give you more time to hunt for the animal you desire, but maybe put some added restrictions, or draw only for the whole state. Those that are drawn to hunt, can hunt all seasons with proper weapons.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: actionshooter on September 16, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
It would be great but to keep the management numbers where they need to be the season would only be 2 days long. It would be a bad idea from a management standpoint.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: MtnMuley on September 17, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Bad management. I totally agree with fronting the money up front for multi tags.  Hell, pay up front for sheep, goat, and moose too!  We used to.  :twocents:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: deaddog on September 17, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
More time to get your animal would significantly increase the total harvest.  A lot of guys don't get "their" one animal now, so any additional days in the field will only increase the harvest rates.  

Seasons would also be more crowded, which is already a problem under the current system.  
+1
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: superdown on September 17, 2009, 08:46:28 AM
I don't know if you guy's are taking into consideration that the multi season hunting would be in exchange for all the extra draw tags and and second bear . my idea is that we would only get our one animal of each species and no longer have the draw system for any reason other than for OIL tags.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: boneaddict on September 17, 2009, 08:54:53 AM
I would support money up front for all of the draws.  Much better draw odds that way.  I've drawn the multi tag 3 out of the last 4 years I think.  Only once on the first draw.  That gets old.  I think a lot of folks don't care aboutthe $5 so they buy the chance but have no idea or no real want to buy the thing once they are drawn.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: ing on September 17, 2009, 05:01:58 PM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.
How is it bad management? Your still only killing one animal.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: bobcat on September 17, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
Yes, but all those people killing "only one animal" may not have killed one with less time to hunt. More people hunting for more days = more animals killed. That's the reason we have seasons. Otherwise they could just have a year around season and justify it by only letting each person kill only one deer and only one elk per year. If everybody who bought a tag killed an animal every year we wouldn't have any deer or elk left in this state.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 17, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
I didnt apply for one this year.. I had decided that Satin got enough of my money.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: ing on September 17, 2009, 05:15:07 PM
do you think that would still be the case if we dropped the drawings for all the extra tags ? my thought is that it would give you more time to get your animal not more animals.

How about instead of getting rid of the special permit hunts, they get rid of the general seasons? That's what they need to do in my opinion, at least for mule deer and elk in eastern wa.
I disagree. Being able to buy over the counter tags is the main reason I hunt here in Washington.  It's nice to know that I can go big game hunting every year without having to draw tags. I think a lot of people would quit hunting locally if we got rid of general seasons.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: bobcat on September 17, 2009, 05:25:58 PM
Sure it's nice but we'd have better hunting if the number of hunters was limited in each unit. If people quit hunting for that reason, that's fine by me. I guess it would mean they're not that serious about it anyway. Oregon doesn't have any mule deer general seasons except for archery, and elk hunting in eastern Oregon for bulls is by draw only, and they don't seem to have a shortage of hunters. As I said, you could still hunt every year. You'd just have to apply for hunts that have a lot of tags.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: ing on September 17, 2009, 05:41:52 PM
Thats why I'll never live in Oregon.
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: chrisb on September 25, 2009, 04:34:41 PM
I like the idea and would be all for it.... as long as it can be proven that the herds can sustain it and the east vs west were removed.


I agree with the thought as well that you'd have less crowding b/c not everyone woudl have to cram their hunting into the one or two weekends they have free during the season specified for their tag. It may actually engcourage some hunters to get our there and learn a new skill too which is good for the sport, but thats just a bi-product .
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: mossback91 on September 26, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
Too many people for what we have for game.  As much as I would love to do it, it would be bad management.

 :yeah:



Going to draw only hunting would give some awesome hunting opportunities BUT I like being able to go hunting every year not every couple of years!!!! and I dont think the state would ever do it because they would not make as much money as they do now...........
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2009, 10:01:03 AM
Thats exactly right.  I love to hunt everyyear but it would be pretty cool for what it might do for the game.   I'd like to see a compromise and have a couple areas that they might manage for trophy, such as the Firing center or Alta (course thats screwed with wolves now) or something like that.  I'd hate to give up hunting every year though. 
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: littlebuf on September 27, 2009, 02:01:04 PM
 :bdid:
Title: Re: multi season hunting
Post by: Tman on September 27, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
I don't believe it would help our game management at all.  Not all hunters in WA hold out for mature animals.  If they could hunt all 3 general seasons, it would be a slaughter.

As stated above, the current "special permit: multi season hunt" is too expensive.  Its almost punative to get drawn.
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