Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: Virfirnus on August 10, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
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First of all, my stance in that Wolves not only belong here(in my state of Washington and all of the United States), but they have more of a right to be here than we(white europeans) do. The wolves along with the Natives were here long before us, and out of greed and religous insanity were a plague on them as well as the North American ecology.
What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU. There are those of us that have high hopes for natures population controllers to return to these regions. You people don't want Wolves to return because you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt. The Wolves are whole kept populations from over-producing. When Elk/Deer are overpopulated(like they are now), they eat all the tree saplings and keep new trees from growing. Theres also the damage of over-grazing and other ecological hurt that comes with the world without Wolves. You people, for the most part, are not hunters. Wolves hunt to survive. THEY are the true hunters. The Native Americans and Inuiets of the north followed the Wolf and learned their ways of hunting from the skills of the Wolf. There are countless ancient religions and cults based on the teachings of the Wolf. But white christians single-handedly destroyed that with paranoia, greed and insanity. The Wolf was a symbol of great knowledge, but Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil. And you people are all ignorant fools that pretend to hunt but are tainting the skill with foolishness and greed. The Wolves will return, know this, they will return. They are already here. And there are those of us that will go to no end to protect them from the likes of the fool.
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I'm sorry to inform you but calling out everyone as a fool on your first post and instigating a line of crap where you resort to leveling threats to shoot people results in a ban. Bye
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What? is PETA SENDING OUT PROBES???!!!!
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I'm sorry to inform you but calling out everyone as a fool on your first post and instigating a line of crap to say that and leveling threats to shoot people results in a ban. Bye
good call!!!
but couldn't we have had some fun first?
lol
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:tree1: :tree1: :tree1: :nono:
There are other websites for your type partner.....
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This ought to be fun.
Oh hell, already :ban:
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eat poop scarecrow >:(
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You people, for the most part, are not hunters
I wonder what category I fall into.
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Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil
Thats also interesting.
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You people, for the most part, are not hunters
I wonder what category I fall into.
Harvesters?? :chuckle:
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Perfect example that liberalism is a mental disorder.
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:o
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Welcome to the forum....nice to see you have painted all people here with one brush.
I for one would like to see a NATIVE population of wolves of the correct species and managed like other predators.....We do not need wolves that have been imported and would never have been here..... the problem is the people hating anti's don't want to see wildlife managed at all...they seem to forget that humans are technically animals in the environment and we serve a role in nature......
The wolves have been here for over 10 years and so have grizzlies.....and that was in the cle elum to blewitt pass area not over by Idaho or up toward canada..... no one has to believe me I know what I saw and heard and I had a forest ranger confirm it for me.....
Wolves have begun to kill for sport this does happen when canines have it too easy......if we put some pressure on them they would go back to subsistence hunting..... sounds to me like you are an anti who doesn't actually understand predators.....
maybe if you open your mind to the other side of the issue you will learn a thing or two, there are some very intelligent and knowledgeable people here.....or you can remain closed minded and cling to your agenda......
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What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU.
Game on!!! I'm guessing most of these folks have never handled a firearm.....
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What a complete idiot!!!!! When does idiot hunting season open, I heard there are unlimited tags avail :dunno:
Hey Mods post their email so they can get some personal notes ;)
Oh wait, here it is
mailto:dallas666bolen@yahoo.com
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What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU.
Don't worry, not all of us shoot them, some of us run them over with our lifted trucks. ;)
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What a tool!
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you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt.
??? has anyone here ever shot a sick old buck/elk before? Seems to me that is what the coyotes and larger coyotes (wolfs) go after first because that is the easiest to catch.
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I believe they left their email available as part of their public profile. I do not support or advocate threats or anything illegal.
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Hey Mods post their email so they can get some personal notes ;)
It's on their profile page
maybe we should all send this nice person as many photos of dead wolves as we can find online, and all of the sick and old deer and elk we have taken over the years?
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A google search turned up someone
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=309268778
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So is he like a fairy or a hobbit or something? Looks like he has seen Harry Potter too many times.
MS
Nevermind. Slipknot wannabe's.
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Here is our little hobbit friend
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=456090117&albumID=56765&imageID=11970656
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I was just looking at his myspace Hahahaha
I bet he has a full Klingon costume is his closet to go with his fairy costumes
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My first thought of his pic was gee Tennessee
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maybe we should have an IDIOT PETARD test before your allowed to join the forum. :stup:
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That was the sickest first post I have seen and I for one am glad it was the last. Lot more good stuff on here to read about and share than waste time on those types.
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What a piece of garbage. He looks to have the IQ of a rock.
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maybe we should have an IDIOT PETARD test before your allowed to join the forum. :stup:
But then we wouldn't get to see what we are up against....besides it makes a better forum to have varying points of view....even if the other side isn't very eloquent ...they are entitled to their opinion but really need to refrain from making felonious threats......if they had truly been reading here they would know the men in black observe this site and you risk being hauled off in the night :o
and it makes for a good laugh after a rough day ;)
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You people don't want Wolves to return because you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt.
I prefer the young and tender, they're easier to haul out of the woods.
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Ray did u ban him? (i hope not)
First off, its cool that u posted here stating a view that goes agaisnt common beliefs on this site. Why didn't you take your time and make an smart-sounding post?
1. What does Christianity have to do with wolf hunting? If you have a problem with Christianity thats a different issue.
2. Why did you state that we hunt the "weak" animals? I don't know where to start on this one. Weak animals are killed off by starvation or predators... Watch any predator documentory and you will see that they usually take out the weak (which is a good thing)
3. I like how you brought up natives. You done any research to look into the current state of native hunting practices around this state? You will probably not open your eyes enough to see what it really is but you should take a look.
God bless 8)
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i hope he makes another account, that could be entertaining until the open the woods back up
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yeah , I see your point runamuk. wolves might be a good idea if we still had the 60-100million bison and the 10million elk of the mid 19th century. But we don't so we might wan't to have few less wolves around.
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From his MySpace profile.
"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of Cascadia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these woods since my early childhood, for which I hold pride in. I fear and respect the mountain being's in the night-fallen wood, as well as walk with the spirit of Northern Canids. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I take in knowledge as it comes, but what I truly search for is sought out in my solitary. "
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I am glad you banned him. Not much truth or intelligence in what he posted.
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Man you should not have banned him I for one know how much fun he could have been for a guy like me to play with for a while, kinda like a wolf with a wounded rabbit/deer.
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You guys should know there is no changing or adjusting this type of person's thought process. Your wasting your time here folks. These type of nut jobs live in complete fantasy land, they have no real concept of what mother nature really is about, just what they see on the animal planet shows.
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I'm sorry to inform you but calling out everyone as a fool on your first post and instigating a line of crap where you resort to leveling threats to shoot people results in a ban. Bye
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well done !!!!!!!! he can kiss my A__
Bob
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thats kinda the point machias, it gets old just picking on magie and pope ;) he woulda been fun to rile up and then ban him
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thats kinda the point machias, it gets old just picking on magie and pope ;) he woulda been fun to rile up and then ban him
:chuckle:
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yeah , I see your point runamuk. wolves might be a good idea if we still had the 60-100million bison and the 10million elk of the mid 19th century. But we don't so we might wan't to have few less wolves around.
This is why I stress managed populations.....our state cannot support historic numbers of anything there is not enough undeveloped land and the land itself has been altered by us.....I also stress not planting 200lb behemoth wolves that would have been fairly rare in an environment like ours....We the humans jumped the gun and went overboard in our eradication of wolves it was a hasty move with no sound basis other than fear motivating it. However what is done is done and wolves are here and have been for a long time now so we need to look forward and start planning how we are going to manage them.....the states need to be allowed to manage their wildlife without so much interference and the anti's lawsuits really need to just be tossed in the circular file. I also know I am in the minority with my support of wolves and thats ok....it would be boring if we all agreed all the time ;)
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First of all, my stance in that Wolves not only belong here(in my state of Washington and all of the United States), but they have more of a right to be here than we(white europeans) do. The wolves along with the Natives were here long before us, and out of greed and religous insanity were a plague on them as well as the North American ecology.
What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU. There are those of us that have high hopes for natures population controllers to return to these regions. You people don't want Wolves to return because you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt. The Wolves are whole kept populations from over-producing. When Elk/Deer are overpopulated(like they are now), they eat all the tree saplings and keep new trees from growing. Theres also the damage of over-grazing and other ecological hurt that comes with the world without Wolves. You people, for the most part, are not hunters. Wolves hunt to survive. THEY are the true hunters. The Native Americans and Inuiets of the north followed the Wolf and learned their ways of hunting from the skills of the Wolf. There are countless ancient religions and cults based on the teachings of the Wolf. But white christians single-handedly destroyed that with paranoia, greed and insanity. The Wolf was a symbol of great knowledge, but Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil. And you people are all ignorant fools that pretend to hunt but are tainting the skill with foolishness and greed. The Wolves will return, know this, they will return. They are already here. And there are those of us that will go to no end to protect them from the likes of the fool
If you don't think there are enough predators out there just ask Timothy Treadwell.
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From his MySpace profile.
"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of Cascadia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these woods since my early childhood, for which I hold pride in. I fear and respect the mountain being's in the night-fallen wood, as well as walk with the spirit of Northern Canids. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I take in knowledge as it comes, but what I truly search for is sought out in my solitary. "
He sure is in horrible shape for wandering the woods his whole life. I bet he couldn't hike half a mile....
I think its stupid that he got banned. You could have just warned him. He didn't really make a direct threat to anyone... We can't just ban every opposing view...
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If you don't think there are enough predators out there just ask Timothy Treadwell.
As much as I enjoy speaking with the dead he doesn't interest me much ;)
I think there is a place for predators (other than humans) in the environment they play an important role.....just as humans also play an important role in nature. To think there is no place for them is as close minded as believing there is no reason for humans to hunt.....the truth lies in the middle.
Obviously your mind is made up......I am glad I did not cling to my old beliefs when I felt hunting was simply a display of macho ego .... and that hunters were all drunken woods trashers....hey that was what I had seen and had nothing else to base my opinion on.....then I found this site ;).
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I think it is a good thing he got banned right from the start, it would have been way different had he come in slowly and shared his thoughts, but he didn't, 1st post and was blasting away. His intentions were ill fated for sure. Good call Ray. Good call...
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Hmmm!
P = People
E = Eating
T = Tasty
A = Animals
:cue:
I think they should re-introduce wolves into the Capital Hill dist.
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From his MySpace profile.
"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of Cascadia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these woods since my early childhood, for which I hold pride in. I fear and respect the mountain being's in the night-fallen wood, as well as walk with the spirit of Northern Canids. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I take in knowledge as it comes, but what I truly search for is sought out in my solitary. "
I hope he can be reinstated so that he take in knowledge as it comes.
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Thanks Ray!!
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This is a hunting forum. To create a username and sign up and then start posting - most people possessing common sense would accept the act of hunting and respect people among the community and their activities to a certain level.
This is not the educational institute for re-education of anti hunters where we have to constantly accept the next anti hunter who signs up and starts in with insults and hair brained science. Then go and try to teach them our thought processes approach and way of life. Taking that into consideration I believe it was pretty well evident what his intentions were. In addition to that I am fairly certain that within a dozen posts there would be dozens of users asking me to ban him. Can you imagine 5 or 6 of those people posting in here every day. Say 10 times a day? Nevermind the threats and other insults.
This simply is not the place for him. Now the reason I left the topic open is because I believe it was distracting people away from the left vs right politics and it also seems pretty harmless.
One more thing to address: If you are looking to debate and speak with these sort of people they are all over the internet and usually quite readily available.
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First of all, my stance in that Wolves not only belong here(in my state of Washington and all of the United States), but they have more of a right to be here than we(white europeans) do. The wolves along with the Natives were here long before us, and out of greed and religous insanity were a plague on them as well as the North American ecology.
What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU. There are those of us that have high hopes for natures population controllers to return to these regions. You people don't want Wolves to return because you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt. The Wolves are whole kept populations from over-producing. When Elk/Deer are overpopulated(like they are now), they eat all the tree saplings and keep new trees from growing. Theres also the damage of over-grazing and other ecological hurt that comes with the world without Wolves. You people, for the most part, are not hunters. Wolves hunt to survive. THEY are the true hunters. The Native Americans and Inuiets of the north followed the Wolf and learned their ways of hunting from the skills of the Wolf. There are countless ancient religions and cults based on the teachings of the Wolf. But white christians single-handedly destroyed that with paranoia, greed and insanity. The Wolf was a symbol of great knowledge, but Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil. And you people are all ignorant fools that pretend to hunt but are tainting the skill with foolishness and greed. The Wolves will return, know this, they will return. They are already here. And there are those of us that will go to no end to protect them from the likes of the fool.
Most people on here don't hate wolves, we don't like the needless slaughter that these wolves are doing to the wildlife. If you want to talk about fools, you should take a closer look at your friendly environmentalists. This wolf issue is a big money maker for them, in the end there will be alot of wildlife that will suffer and die n a pile of wolves killed because of the greedy environmentalists. Perhaps saveelk.com can help you in your search for the truth.
Best Regards
wolfbait
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You did the right thing Ray, I don't know why I even read that HS.
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I would just lock this thread. Trolls get off reading what other people post. Don't waste your time.
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I think this thread should remain open because its education to what is out there. Almost unites us in a way. As for banning him, Ray ABSOLUTELY did the right thing. You start issueing death threats and stuff, especially in your first post and basically its hasta la vista BABY. If he had started and let us know that he was against the hunting of wolves, fine. ETC ETC. But to issue threats, was not someone we want contributing to this site. GOOD CALL!
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I think its interesting that someone would somehow find a way to blame christianity for turning the wolf into a symbol of evil lol what a bunch of rediculous rubbish. I couldnt stop laughing at this post until I read his myspace and learned that hes out there roaming the woods with the rest of us :o
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I think its interesting that someone would somehow find a way to blame christianity for turning the wolf into a symbol of evil lol what a bunch of rediculous rubbish. I couldnt stop laughing at this post until I read his myspace and learned that hes out there roaming the woods with the rest of us :o
so he says, i dont think he can get out and hike much :twocents:
this is why i hate college :bash:
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yeah he does resemble a basement hermit doesnt he :chuckle:
yeah man college is a time robber, im only able to get out 2-3 times a week maximum, still not enough
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That was awesome! I really cannot believe how weird some folks are. Love the myspace garbage. Pathetic little punk.
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i just read what he wrote again and now i really really want to shoot a wolf, weird :dunno:
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Well if you guys&gals would take notice, you would see by his M-space that "He is a wolf" :yike: OMG :yike: AND HE'S AFRAID ONE OF YOU BASTAGES IS GOING TO SHOOT HIM :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: remember 'we only shoot the sick and the week!! and occasionally the retarded :hello:
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Well if you guys&gals would take notice, you would see by his M-space that "He is a wolf" :yike: OMG :yike: AND HE'S AFRAID ONE OF YOU BASTAGES IS GOING TO SHOOT HIM :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: remember 'we only shoot the sick and the week!! and occasionally the retarded :hello:
HaHaHa :chuckle:
He looks like one of those troll dolls (fat and hairy)
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I have no problem with having a wolf population in our state. The wolves are returning on their own anyway and I am not foolish enough to believe that they will again be allowed to be deliberately eradicated. However, as others have said I want to see them managed just as like other game animal.
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To me this did not have anything to do with wolf management issues amongst ourselves here as hunters. I can respect the different points of view on that among our own ranks. It's the shenanigans from outsiders who have nothing to contribute here but trash which do not belong.
Thanks for understanding.
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That might have been the most successful troll ever on HuntWa.
"Christianity turned the wolf into a symbol of evil" - I was not aware of that.
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That might have been the most successful troll ever on HuntWa.
That's mean calling him a troll. Hobbit, dumpy metal head, weeble... all fine, but troll is just plain mean. :chuckle:
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We've had much better than that.
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I... I...I... need a tissue and a change of underware, i cant stop laughing at this post. im not european or christian and i hunt with a bow (more traditional than the native americans ie: indians do).. and i dont hunt for greed..
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boneaddict....I agree with you completely on your statement....Ray did exactly the right thing... :tup:
I think this thread should remain open because its education to what is out there. Almost unites us in a way. As for banning him, Ray ABSOLUTELY did the right thing. You start issueing death threats and stuff, especially in your first post and basically its hasta la vista BABY. If he had started and let us know that he was against the hunting of wolves, fine. ETC ETC. But to issue threats, was not someone we want contributing to this site. GOOD CALL!
I went and shot my muskox with the inuits that he thinks he knows, it was funner than hell chasing all over on snowmobiles with the inuits and killing muskox with them, fishing with them, and we would have shot wolves with them too, but their snowmobiles couldn't get through the rough stuff fast enough.... :chuckle:
That is how the inuits hunt, and they are darn effective.... :chuckle:
I don't know if you guys noticed on his myspace, on top of all his earthliness, he is a smoker and a drinker.... :chuckle:
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I don't drink but I resent that smoking comment. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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figure better remove his address, don't want one of you crazy hunters to really send him something, :chuckle:
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my wife smokes too, nothing meant to anyone except that idiot, he comes off that he is the master keeper of the earth, he actually has the same habits as any other people.... :chuckle:
I bet he wipes his a$$ with toilet paper and drives a volvo with plastic interior all over the place trying to howl for wolves....... :chuckle:
Don't know if you noticed all the owl stuff on his page, he was an owl lover too, probably don't have a job, those kind of people have to have causes or they have nothing worth living for.... :twocents:
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No way... Is that the dudes picture. Lmao. :chuckle: "Look mom, I'm standing in the water." Guy thinks he's Daniel Boones great great gothic grandson or something. Looks like some sort of devil worshiper, having 666 in his email. If I looked like him after trading my soul I'd tell lucifer I wanted a refund. I pity you.... You poor man. And I'm not even going to touch his "reaction." Its so full of false statements and inaccuracies I'll just save my breath. I think he got all his info from Peta's website. He is right about one thing though, there are wolves here and there will be more to come.... But I think he got that one right on accident. :dunno:
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There. Fixed the quote a little.
From his MySpace profile.
"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of suburbia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these city parks since my early childhood, for which I hold pride ceremonies in. I fear and respect the mountains of night-fallen dung, as well as walk with the spirit of Disney wolf movies. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I really like trails, and the bridges are so exciting. I take in knowledge as it comes, and let it go just as fast, but what I truly search for is sought out in my trusty blanket. "
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Keeper of the wild:
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Well, that made for a good early morning read. I'm surprised none of you recognized manwolfpig, manbearpig's feeble retarded double first cousin!
I'm pretty sure Dallas Bolen is just his despised, Eurocentric-given Christian name; in the alternate realms he is known by many other names.
In the spirit world, he is "Humps Fist by the Light of the Monitor". His lycan name translates to "Turns into an obese neutered dachshund every full moon". His Native American friends know him as "Pasty white acne boy who thinks black is a slimming color". On the playground, he was simply known as "picked last for team sports".
His hatred of humanity was sealed when he falsely confessed to crimes to go to prison, only to discover he couldn't get any affection there either, even though he'd spend hours in the shower picking up soap. All he got for his troubles was a bad back and soapy fingers ...
I generally think it's terrible when mommies don't hug their kids, but in his case, I think I'll side with mom.
In the world of online gamers, he is Mordac Schwartzenegger, Destroyer of all Evil and Ravager of Hot Babes and Justin Timberlake. Fear his skills.
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:yike:
Holy sheeeeiiiiitttt, that is funny!
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:chuckle:
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:IBCOOL:
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Just another idealist, not yet old enough or experienced enough to know poop. still thinking life is like a cartoon, deliberately living in a life of deliberate ignorance, so as to feel better about themselves because mommy didn't love them enough, or driven by guilt having grown up in a life of priveledge and mad at daddy :hello:
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I think you are about right.
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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ICE, That post was hilarious.
Get out your checkbook guys, he is having a sale on stickers.
Monday, June 09, 2008
Stickers available. Limited amount.
So I've got about 20 2inch x 2inch Satus stickers available. Will sell for the low price of $1, or trade for your bands stickers if I like your band. Either way, they are small enough to fit in a regular envelope, so no shipping charge. Send money and info to
Dallas Bolen
5822 416th St E
Eatonville, Wa 98328
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: omg this is a riot!
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this is almost as good as the kitten/bobcat post.
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DoubleLung wins the "best post of the year award"
FUNNY STUFF!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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yikes. i wonder if that kid has been to my venue before. (i own/operate an all ages music venue on South Tacoma Way) we have a lot of death metal, rock, metal shows. haha.
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he probably doesnt go because there's girls there :chuckle:
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Technically his theme word should be "Setass" rather than Satus and somehow it seems more appropriate. Has no business sense either. Probably sell a bunch of stickers with that spelling in Seattle.
According to the scholars...
The present name is a corruption of the Indian form, which is closer to Setass, and means rich grazing land, or the word Settasslema, meaning people of the rye prairie or of the bunch-grass range.
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
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ok im done
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ok im done
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Wow! Seven pages in one day. What a piece of work! Get 'em !
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With that body I don;t think it got that way with veggies. :yike:
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
Look, its Manbearpig! never mind, its only mangina :rolleyes:
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i bet this kids bedroom walls are covered with those felt marker poster(probably wolfs and unicorns) then the slipknot poster, a antonio banderas poster and one of those kitten callenders with the dates of new whale wars shows circled. on his desk is a rejection letter from green peace. lets not forget the victorias secret cattalogs he hide from his mom under the bed.
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It's taken me a while to read through all 7 pages... :lol4:
OMG!!! this has been too much fun...
As you guys have already pointed out clearly.... ol' fatboy is an expert in woodmanship....
I think he's played one too many d&d rounds at the local game store...
Wait till you see his picture when he realizes he has to work for a living...
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carfull guys he might get ya with his warlock powers
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there are people that dumb out there that have a say in what we do as hunters
Thats right Ruger, how does it make you feel knowing Frodo Baggins just canceled your vote ;)
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there are people that dumb out there that have a say in what we do as hunters
Thats right Ruger, how does it make you feel knowing Frodo Baggins just canceled your vote ;)
HA! :tup:
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The best information on wolves and population density per state I have found is located on th USDA website....and the livestock impact by canine preditors. I hope to draw tags for wolves in Montana. Montana State biologists have been a great help on wolf control and impact on cattle and elk populations. I hope that our state can manage this resource as well as Montana. The tree hugging, fat nature guy was funny :chuckle:... to bad you band him from the site.
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its only mangina :rolleyes:
he wishes
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Funny chit, at least we don't have to worry about ol' tubby reproducing.
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This whole thread.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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how did Christianity turn wolves into a false symbol of evil? By re-introducing wolves how are "natural" predators controlling the populations of deer and elk?
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Every time i look at the pics all i keep seeing is Ned Beatty and the voices in my head are saying "squeal piggy, squeal", make the banjos stop, it's like they are dueling...
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The Native Americans and Inuiets of the north followed the Wolf and learned their ways of hunting from the skills of the Wolf.
Ha...get that on You Tube. Pack of Native Americans and Inuiets working side by side to surround and elk, while one grabs a hold of it's arse, another the neck, so on and so forth. Then nibble on some nose, take out the internal organs with their teeth, and then leave it there. I can picture that.
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I wonder how he feels about wolves after bearing the brunt of the HuntingWashington.com pack of wolves that you guys are? ;)
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I am going to spend more time in the woods being sure to fill all my tags this year in his name. Mangina, because of your post, alot more animals will die.
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First of all, I was on 2nd Reply at work yesterday before I got off work and I tried to reply But EVERYONE get front of me and I tried to keep trying to reply and Everyone get Front of me. DANG! I give up and watch whole Reply Wow almost 110 replys after 24 hours! Geez... I thank u ALL people for kick his a&s
I feel much better now. :chuckle:
GREAT PEOPLE HERE on site! I laugh so hard! One of MOST funny Thread in my three years :IBCOOL:
HEY VIRFIRNUS MOVE OUT OF Wa STATE if you dont like us! :hello:
Mulehunter :tup:
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We should send him a Huntwa sticker for his sticker collection :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
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I am going to spend more time in the woods being sure to fill all my tags this year in his name. Mangina, because of your post, alot more animals will die.
Classics are classics for a reason
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I have never seen a pack of Native Americans or Inuit chasing animals and bringing them down with their teeth, that must be a neat trick. Did Virus say that's how they learned to hunt?
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OHHHH holy *censored* guys..... I have crapped my pants reading this, now Im going to go wipe my ass with a frickin spotted owl. :whoo: Is it too late to re-introduce natural selection into the human race and get rid of some of these tofu fartin tree humpin fairies????
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OHHHH holy *censored* guys..... I have crapped my pants reading this, now Im going to go wipe my ass with a frickin spotted owl. :whoo: Is it too late to re-introduce natural selection into the human race and get rid of some of these tofu fartin tree humpin fairies????
U don't get to be his size on tofu. And why are people still asking him questions? Hes banned.
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Even though he can't post I'm sure he can still visit the site and see all the replies. I hope he does a study on wildlife management and finds out who pays for it. I'll tell you- It is the hunters and fisherman. It was because of outdoorsman that we pay for licenses. Not a government idea but the idea of sportsmen who could see that game management was necessary and that someone needed to pay for it. I wonder if he knows that most of those "trails" were put in and are maintained by organizations that are funded through donations mostly by outdoorsman.
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Hey backwoods....think you can come up with a sticker of a wolf with crosshairs on it and send it to him compliments of huntwa. His address is on there. LOL I think that was a great suggestion. Friends from Huntwa. :chuckle:
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I sure can....
give me a little bit to get some work done then ill see what i can do....
ha ha ha ha
you guys are great!
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SWEET :chuckle:
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Hey backwoods....think you can come up with a sticker of a wolf with crosshairs on it and send it to him compliments of huntwa. His address is on there. LOL I think that was a great suggestion. Friends from Huntwa. :chuckle:
Hell I'd buy one !
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Virfirnus... Ignorance is obvious and it spews from your post. I think you should go live with the wolves as the grizzly man did...Maybe you will have a different prospective - - when we bury your ignorant ass.
The old timers had a problem and they took care of it for good reason...we will have a problem in the future with the wolf.
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(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fga0.org%2Fimg%2Fact2%2Fcustom_images%2Findefenseofanimals%2Fwolf_dead_insnow1.jpg&hash=8b925178d663f340b323dc452d8285e801810f56)
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I was watching a hunting show yesterday, they were hunting mule deer in Wyoming. The guide and hunter were sitting high on a overlook and spotted two wolves down below them, the camera guy got them on camera and the two guys started talking about the now lack of moose in the area and other game. I would have been telling that camera guy to turn it off and..... :rolleyes:
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ok what do you think.
should i send it.
:-)
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Hahaha I like it! 8) 8)
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I like the sticker but might change it to "I (heart) watching wolves" Keeps that happy hippy feel.
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NICE 8)
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I am going to spend more time in the woods being sure to fill all my tags this year in his name. Mangina, because of your post, alot more animals will die.
Classics are classics for a reason
the most *censored* pic i have ever seen! i want that for a bumper sticker! :chuckle:
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What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU.
Game on!!! I'm guessing most of these folks have never handled a firearm.....
I choose .50 cals at 1000 paces!
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why dont we all just print that out and each mail one to him :hello: :hello:
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I knew your talents would come in handy one day. :)
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ha ha ha
yeah
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or via email
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I think it would be fun for him to get a sticker in the mail to add to his collection.
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Yes, wolves were here before us and the Native Americans took pride in killing them and wearing their hides too.....
Why not allow the natural cycle you speak of occur today? Why is man not allowed to hunt the wolves like he has done for thousands of years?
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And the funniest part......get this.......I GUARANTEE you this guy considers himself/herself a LIBERAL!
Those statements are far from being liberal....here is the definition of liberal....
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* - broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others
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* - progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy
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What a fun read. :rolleyes:
I bet this guy would get off beating up the old and sick people at the TownMeetings all the while believing he is keeping us safe from the Nazi influence that is lowering his Cult's poll ratings. :bash:
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Virfirnus... Ignorance is obvious and it spews from your post. I think you should go live with the wolves as the grizzly man did...Maybe you will have a different prospective - - when we bury your ignorant ass.
The old timers had a problem and they took care of it for good reason...we will have a problem in the future with the wolf.
:yeah:
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i just emailed it to him
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i just emailed it to him
Backwoods, I just started a new thread, in which I request you to make and mail him another sticker - this time, though, I have found we have common ground with him. Check out the new thread, Common Ground with Virfirnus.
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NICE 8)
Do you guys really think it's appropriate to have the HuntWa name on such an ignorant sticker? I agree this guy is a total *censored* but I do not want to be associated with that sticker.
Maybe crap like that is why the agency folks think this website is full of retarded hillbillies and will not take our input seriously? :twocents:
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NICE 8)
Do you guys really think it's appropriate to have the HuntWa name on such an ignorant sticker? I agree this guy is a total *censored* but I do not want to be associated with that sticker.
Maybe crap like that is why the agency folks think this website is full of retarded hillbillies and will not take our input seriously? :twocents:
I am sure the "agency" can see that there are folks from all walks on this site.
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I do not want to be associated with that sticker.
Maybe crap like that is why the agency folks think this website is full of retarded hillbillies and will not take our input seriously? :twocents:
WAwolflover,
You are free to leave at any time. :chuckle:
Who told you the agency folks think this is a website "full of retarded hillbillies"? :dunno:
What would you think if you were an agency bio reading this nonsense? :P really?
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I guess when you can't accurately answer a question, the next best thing is to ask one..
har har...because I have seen their response and I know there is an agency bio on here that has not been too active for a while.... I also know they have seen the posts and recognize the lunacy. you must think the wolf issue on here is pretty reasonable?
It's disconcerting that you will get your little sticker and represent all of us. take off the hunt wa portion and represent yourself if you would like, but don't lump everyone into the SSS, wolf hating crowd.
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I guess when you can't accurately answer a question, the next best thing is to ask one..
har har...because I have seen their response and I know there is an agency bio on here that has not been too active for a while.... I also know they have seen the posts and recognize the lunacy. you must think the wolf issue on here is pretty reasonable?
It's disconcerting that you will get your little sticker and represent all of us. take off the hunt wa portion and represent yourself if you would like, but don't lump everyone into the SSS, wolf hating crowd.
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Maybe crap like that is why the agency folks think this website is full of retarded hillbillies and will not take our input seriously?
Im glad they have noticed that we are here. Now if they would just do there jobs.....:chuckle:
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:yeah:
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one lump for another I guess.
I try not to lump this group together, but when our most outspoken few are representing all of us and wearing stickers with wolves in the crosshairs it's sort of tough to make a reasonable argument for our case.
(our being HUNTWA) I hope you understand my line of thought here... :twocents:
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Im glad they have noticed that we are here. Now if they would just do there jobs.....:chuckle:
[/quote]Now thats the best joke I heard all morning. :chuckle:
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Idaho's Fish & GAME director doesn't care if we poach wolves whats our director less wildlife agency's problem?
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one lump for another I guess.
I try not to lump this group together, but when our most outspoken few are representing all of us and wearing stickers with wolves in the crosshairs it's sort of tough to make a reasonable argument for our case.
(our being HUNTWA) I hope you understand my line of thought here... :twocents:
Kinda like the song, I love this bar, around here. ye just never know who you might find at Huntwa. :dunno:
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You know, when you read the original poster a second time, he also made threats to "shoot" hunters. It is not outside the realm that he intends to do harm to someone. Just cause you look like a hippy does not mean you can not ambush a person. Not all break ins to our rigs are thieves. Eco terrorist nuts are real and they aren't taken as seriously as they should be. I think I will forward this rant on to the Tacoma Sherriff's office and the FBI. If he does go into the woods and something does happen it shows premeditation.
(Seriously.)
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Idaho's Fish & GAME director doesn't care if we poach wolves whats our director less wildlife agency's problem?
:tree1:
What? It's their job to protect wildlife- I think wolves are still considered that. They have a responsiblity to protect all the species, not just the ones we like to eat or wear. Once we have a recovered population I will be out wolf hunting too. I will be in Idaho wolf hunting if they ever let the tags, but not before then.
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You know, when you read the original poster a second time, he also made threats to "shoot" hunters. It is not outside the realm that he intends to do harm to someone. Just cause you look like a hippy does not mean you can not ambush a person. Not all break ins to our rigs are thieves. Eco terrorist nuts are real and they aren't taken as seriously as they should be. I think I will forward this rant on to the Tacoma Sherriff's office and the FBI. If he does go into the woods and something does happen it shows premeditation.
(Seriously.)
You're right- it did say that. He'll say he did it becasue we all picked on him and nicknamed him the GIANT *censored*. :P :chuckle: :chuckle:
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bla bla bla.........
If your not busy crusading for the wolves here is something you might want to check out
http://www.wolfhaven.org/howl_ins.php
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DId somebody call for a hillbilly :P :IBCOOL:
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I agree Wenatchee.
I'm not too concerned about how Virus views us Wacoy, and I figured a little ribbing is justified to someone that came on here and basically threatened us. I don't plan on putting a dozen of these stickers out on the open market. You are correct, that would not be something I would support. I am simple enough to think thats funnier than hell to go to him though.
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:)
http://www.myspace.com/456090117
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I heard wolfes taste like chicken...I like chicken :cue:
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georgia redneck, I like the way you think.
What part of Georgia are you from? Used to be stationed down there in the military. Miss that place.
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I heard wolfes taste like chicken...I like chicken :cue:
More like spotted owl, and I love spotted owl chowder. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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NICE 8)
Do you guys really think it's appropriate to have the HuntWa name on such an ignorant sticker? I agree this guy is a total *censored* but I do not want to be associated with that sticker.
Maybe crap like that is why the agency folks think this website is full of retarded hillbillies and will not take our input seriously? :twocents:
I am sure the "agency" can see that there are folks from all walks on this site.
As a former agency wildlife biologist, who communicates with lots of current WDFW biologists, I am confident Iceman nailed it. There are several WDFW bios on this site, they generally choose to not identify themselves because they aren't on here as professionals or WDFW reps, they are on here because they are passionate about hunting.
The posters on this website run the gamut from hateful, irrational and paranoid, to stupid, to avid and enthusiastic, to highly intelligent, rational and reasoned. Not much different than what I (and they) see when in the field contacting hunters:
Some are so delighted to see a bio in the field and have a chance to have questions answered, they happily blow off considerable hunting time to chat.
Some are extremely unpleasant, occasionally screaming stark raving enraged. I've been surprised by the number of hunters over 15 seasons in the field who seriously demanded information on black helicopters, Soviet troops, Sasquatch...
However, the vast majority really don't care anything about the agency. They are out there to hunt, not spend time with a bureaucrat. However, most are friendly and pleasant, recognize it is part of the deal along with regulations and permits, and are willing to provide the necessary information and hope they are helping manage the resource.
Keep in mind, this is an electronic bulletin board; other than the judgements of the moderators, hunting-washington.com requires nothing but an email account to belong. The site doesn't represent anyone.
Sites like this are useful to an agency for gauging general sentiments. The agencies pay much more attention to organized groups with actual memberships, rules, representatives, and organizationally supported positions on issues. Hunting-washington.com has no agenda or position on tribal hunting, gun rights, political parties, weapon user groups, etc. It is a discussion board. That is one reason, in my previous employment, I would never have considered wasting my time responding to anonymous posters on a website.
If you want to be heard by agencies, join and support the biggest conservation groups that support your desires: sportsmen's clubs, local and state chapters of conservation organizations, etc. Those are the most effective way to be heard. One unhappy constituent posting online means nothing; five other anonymous posters agreeing means little more. An elected or appointed spokesperson who presents the position of hundreds or thousands of hunters to the agency or commission definitely gets their attention and consideration.
Posting on this website is a way to communicate with other hunters, not present a united front - we aren't. Posting on this site is a way to express your views, perhaps share information. That's all.
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Call me a snob. The first thing I noticed was his inability to use spell check. Poor grammar and not knowing what to capitalize.
I thought Liberals like him were supposed to be well educated? Guess not. :twocents:
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Oh man, I'm done in if you use that criteria. My fingers just fly and I never use spell check. LOL
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Well said Doublelung :tup:
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Oh man, I'm done in if you use that criteria. My fingers just fly and I never use spell check. LOL
That's OK. You're special :chuckle: :chuckle: Someone up on "the soap box" like the goof that started this thread should do better...
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You know, when you read the original poster a second time, he also made threats to "shoot" hunters. It is not outside the realm that he intends to do harm to someone. Just cause you look like a hippy does not mean you can not ambush a person. Not all break ins to our rigs are thieves. Eco terrorist nuts are real and they aren't taken as seriously as they should be. I think I will forward this rant on to the Tacoma Sherriff's office and the FBI. If he does go into the woods and something does happen it shows premeditation.
(Seriously.)
this year bear hunting we had a run in with some greeners and they saw which car was ours and knew we were bear hunting, well they started before us on the trail and when we caught up with them (hunters are in shape hippys are outa shape :chuckle:) they wernt to friendly. when we got back to our rig a couple days later someone had gotten into our gas a siphened it all out, cant say for sure it was them but thats who id guess. luckly a gas station was only 8 miles down the road but we coulda been in a bad situation if that happened some where else
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If you want to be heard by agencies, join and support the biggest conservation groups that support your desires: sportsmen's clubs, local and state chapters of conservation organizations, etc. Those are the most effective way to be heard. One unhappy constituent posting online means nothing; five other anonymous posters agreeing means little more. An elected or appointed spokesperson who presents the position of hundreds or thousands of hunters to the agency or commission definitely gets their attention and consideration.
Posting on this website is a way to communicate with other hunters, not present a united front - we aren't. Posting on this site is a way to express your views, perhaps share information. That's all.
Very well put, I totally agree, all the ranting online means nothing, if a person wants to make a difference they need to belong to organizations and write letters to the right people who can make things happen. :twocents:
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Virfirnus: they say that ignorance is bliss. And so it goes in this debate. The so-called "scientists" and "natural ecosystem" advocates on one side and the wildlife management advocates on the other. Facts are not factual when your agenda is essentially a religious one.
The real "fact" of the matter is that we don't have a natural ecosystem anywhere in the continental United States and there is very little of it, even in Alaska. Power lines span our forests, oil pipelines traverse our arctic planes (which by the way happens to be one of the most successful wildlife management projects in the world – the Trans Alaskan oil pipeline). Airplanes fly overhead, train tracks and whistles run through the middle of our national parks. Roads and hiking paths are like ribbons throughout the national forests and park systems.
Pretending that the introduction of non-native wolf species will somehow return our wilderness into some pre-15th century natural ecosystem is rubbish. It is a Big Lie perpetrated by the Earth-First, PETA, radical environmentalist groups, and “Mother Earth as god” types. They attempt to turn environmentalism into a religious experience. Sorry, it doesn’t qualify.
We were put on this earth to be good Stewards of the land; to protect it, keep it beautiful, and guarantee the abundance of its wildlife; its entire species to the extent this management is in keeping with the human element of the equation. The radical environmentalist movement generally fails to take the human species into consideration when they spew their hateful, ruinous, inconsiderate, and damaging propaganda.
Saw Mills close putting thousands of workers on the streets. Mines close devastating whole towns that have been relying on coal and minerals for their livelihood for over 200 years. Hydroelectric dams are torn down causing electricity rates to skyrocket – forcing seniors and those on fixed incomes to decide: “do I heat my house in December or by groceries.”
This anti-human, “us or them” mentality is prevalent in the radical element. The truth is that a reasonable balance can be struck between the genuine needs of man and the beauty and solemnity of the forests and wildlife.
In the past humans have a poor track record of being good stewards of the land. Greed and shortsighted thinking has led to terrible environmental transgressions. However, during the Presidency of Teddy Roosevelt the American Conservation movement began. It took many years to reach its present state. Hunters & Fishermen are now the driving force behind aggressive wildlife management and conservation in the world today. Hunters, hunting organizations, and our license fees donate more money to wildlife conservation, habitat protection, and species enhancement than all other so called “conservation” groups combined.
We hunters should be proud of our recent record and we need to fight hard to protect our values, our traditions, and our right to hunt game species. When idiotic groups come along and try to turn the land back to ancient times in the middle of the 21st century they remind me of the Taliban in Afghanistan, trying to return their world to some romantic 6th century religious enclave. It is lunacy and it won’t work. Pull your head out of the sand and recognize that 250 million people live in the United States. Land and wildlife management is a fact of life and it works. Trying to create some naturalistic Camelot in the middle of modern civilization is a radical environmental religious pipe dream.
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Wheres my wolf rug?! :chuckle:
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has this kid tried to make another account? i really wanted to mess with him
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Dave Stiles....that was a very nice response with excellent points. :yeah:
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So I take it that Mr. Stiles would oppose putting Rocky Mountain elk in areas of the country where elk once existed despite the fact that the original species were wiped out and are now extinct? Ditto on all those introduced non-native wild turkeys, chuckars, etc, we have here Washington State.
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Dave, I have not read a better response on the topic. Excellent job. I may frame it and put it on my wall.
Thanks for taking the time to write that.
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You know, when you read the original poster a second time, he also made threats to "shoot" hunters. It is not outside the realm that he intends to do harm to someone. Just cause you look like a hippy does not mean you can not ambush a person. Not all break ins to our rigs are thieves. Eco terrorist nuts are real and they aren't taken as seriously as they should be. I think I will forward this rant on to the Tacoma Sherriff's office and the FBI. If he does go into the woods and something does happen it shows premeditation.
(Seriously.)
Jay, I've been a recipient of that kind of crap...ALL the glass/plastic, lamps and windows on my 1970 chevy with canopy...cost me about $700 in 1990 to get all the glass replaced. I NEVER did get the cat urine smell out completely. I finally sold the truck with full disclosure to a kid who was wanting to do a total resto of a shortbox truck. I used the $ to get my 1981 4wd.
It was one of the most INFURIATING things to get back to after dark, I had ONE spare headlight with the low beam out...changed that light and crept out to where I could find a phone and called the county sheriff...it was WAY too far to walk. At that time in life I was a lot younger amd more brash....I'd have been REALLY TEMPTED to SSS a thief/vandal in that instance. Probably GOOD that they were long gone..
The spray paint came off the waxed paint..not so well on the canopy or the upholstery.
I was SO mad I VIBRATED for WEEKS.....and EVERY time i saw the damage or smelled the cat urine.
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I wonder if any Peta members (or similar) have ever experience anything like that. How horrible.
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woodswalker, that really sucks. I keep thinking that some of these "animal rights" idiots could use a real ass whoopin - and especially the dirtbag vandals that do the things you described. Even so, I also know that regardless of how much such a whoopin might be deserved, somehow it would be turned around to make them look like victims.
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I keep thinking that some of these "animal rights" idiots could use a real ass whoopin - and especially the dirtbag vandals that do the things you described. Even so, I also know that regardless of how much such a whoopin might be deserved, somehow it would be turned around to make them look like victims.
Only if they were found ...
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I believe in managing game species, including Elk, turkeys, deer, wolves, etc. in a way that benefits hunters. These species are better off being managed in a controled environment than in the so called, "natural ecosystem." Some wolves should be allowed to live in this managed environment but not to the detriment of the traditional game species.
The game species is worth billions of dollars in hunting related revenue. Put deer, elk, turkeys, etc. in our forests, plains, deserts, wetlands, etc. for all to enjoy but keep in mind that it is the hunters dollars that make it all work. When we manage the land in this fashion everybody benefits from it. If somebody wants to put Roosevelt Elk in Wyoming and believes that the sub-species can be managed effectively for the benefit of hunters so be it.
Those who advocate the "natural ecosystem" philosophy in midst of the modern civilization have their heads stuffed up a particular orifice so deeply they are suffocating. That's probably why they don't think clearly; lack of oxygen.
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rooselk: perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I'm for putting Rocky Mt. Elk anywhere they can survive, anywhere they can be managed for the benefit of hunters first and the rest of the population second. If you think we can put Rocky Mt. Elk in Antartica and they can survive and be hunted by hunters, with a hunting license, responsibly, ethically, and with a taste for Elk meat, I'm all for that.
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Thanks for the explanation. :tup:
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Those who advocate the "natural ecosystem" philosophy in midst of the modern civilization have their heads stuffed up a particular orifice so deeply they are suffocating. That's probably why they don't think clearly; lack of oxygen.
:yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Hello,
This will be my one and only post. You may remember me as Virfirnus. I am here to post a retraction and apology for my original statement regarding this forum that was very harmful to whats important to me, because I let my emotions get the best of me. I still am an avid supporter of Wolves, but I have learned that to help a cause, one must find common ground, common sense and be diplomatic with the opposing party. I understand alot of your fears about having Wolves back, but I am working to help those understand that it's not as bad as your imagination is letting you believe. I have become apart of a wildlife sanctuary/rehabilitation for injured and unreleasable wild animals, and have learned that I cannot let my emotions and passion get the best of me, otherwise it is detrimental to what I'm doing. I DO NOT support violence against those opposing. I support hunting myself, but I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume. I DO NOT intend to shoot anyone who shoots Wolves(that was sarcasm though when I had posted that). I DO NOT support eco-terrorism. I am one who believes that if there is an understanding to reach, we have to be calm, collective, and respectful to eachother, otherwise you will not receive the respect of being heard. I am now a believer that being diplomatic is truly the best for all. To help eachother co-exist. Non-violence, respect, common ground and common sense. THATS what I truly believe. Ranchers and hunters, if you will listen, we will listen to you back. All only if there is respect from one another.
All, please be well.
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Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you.
:hello:
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I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume.
Not a chance.
Hello,
I DO NOT intend to shoot anyone who shoots Wolves
Very smart, because anyone that shoots a wolf will have a gun and "skills" to shoot back.
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Boy, that sure was a 180....if you think that's going to buy you any credibility you're related to a rock.
Oh and as far as your one and only post...........thank you! Goodbye
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Welcome back Diplomat/Virfirnus.
Nice to see that anger management class helped. I think you will find most of the hunters on this site are reasonable, passionate people. I think you will also find that many of us will back up our ideas with facts. Hopefully, when you dialoge about a subject like wolves, (that you are equally passionate about) that you will be able to present research and facts as well, and not just point fingers and scream myths, feelings and propoganda.
I think if you will go back and review this thread, you will see that much of your logic in your original post was unfounded, and quite frankly ridiculous. I am not so much referring to your posts about the wolves themselves, but your view of hunters in general.
Glad to hear that you don't actually advocate violence against us or eco-terrorism.
Best of luck getting your name off that "watch list"...
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Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you.
:hello:
:tup: :lol4: :)
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certainly a little different stance than the first post, maybe i am just a suspicious guy but i smell a rat. i know i am not ready to do a 180 from my beliefs at the drop of a hat, i smell trouble
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Hello,
This will be my one and only post. You may remember me a *censored*. . All only if there is respect from one another.
All, please be well.
I eliminated all that was unimportant to me and based on whats left, probably not as there is a complete lack for respect for you at this time, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps if you could pay for the funeral of the young women that was recently killed in Alaska by your beloved wolfs then go live with that same wolf pack for say a week, then get back to me and we could talk again. Just one last quick question, are you related to Timothy Treadwell? With a complete lack of regard, Mudeater
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"Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU."
All I have to say is bring it on, "I shoot back."
DIP S#!t
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(Ranchers and hunters, if you will listen, we will listen to you back. All only if there is respect from one another.)
Who's we? Have you even seen the damage the wolves have done to the ranchers and wildlife? Would you like to explain your line of thinking to the relatives of the people who will get killed from the wolves? The environmentalists are making good money with their lies about these wolves begging money from people just like you and lawsuit after lawsuit.
Perhaps if you could pay for the funeral of the young women that was recently killed in Alaska by your beloved wolfs then go live with that same wolf pack for say a week, then get back to me and we could talk again. Just one last quick question, are you related to Timothy Treadwell? With a complete lack of regard, Mudeater
Quote from: WDFW-SUX on Today at 03:11:55 PM
Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you
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I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume
Fantasy. That's just a Fantasy. The reality has been a disasterous decline in Elk populations, deer also where Wolves have been reintroduced. I listened to a radio interview with a Hunting guide from Montana last week. The Census count of Elk in his part of the State showed a decline from over 15000 to less than 1700 since Montana brought Wolves back. Officials there also reported finding 15 wolf killed Elk in one spot, many barely or not fed on. Doesn't really fit in with the Disney view of Wolves only taking the old,weak and sick does it?
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I smell a troll. Definitely not the same guy posting. Can we get an IP check please?
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All you hatemongers and your arguments based on facts >:(
WHat about "feelings"? Can't you base an argument on those?
What about imagination...er...fantasy...er...I mean imagination...?
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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WHat about "feelings"? Can't you base an argument on those?
Those are called feelings, they are based on emotion. A lot of women have those.
Men tend to rely on facts and logic
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Diplomat,
I don't believe these wolves are going to strengthen the herds as they have been fairly well managed to already accomplish this. When there was a few years of higher than normal winter kill on the elk herds around Mt. Saint Helens, they increased the permits and harvest of the elk. You throw a nonnative predator into the mix it will decimate many of the herds that hunters have contributed funds to growing. Why don't you release your wolves on the east coast to curb some of the white tail populations that are over run. That may be a location where it would strengthen the herds.
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This is the thread I referenced to humanure. Sorry I couldn't just post a link.
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How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU.
Bring it on PUNK!
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Well he was right about the emotions part after a couple cups of coffee and reading that I feel like kicking the dog.
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Whoa, that was some funny chit back there.
Sounds like Humancrap to me, just a couple years older(not wiser).
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Humanure did you start this thread?
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:) Virfirnus, how about you make the sacrafice to show how much you mean it!!! Do your self and all your best friends in, that will save a bunch of resources. :dunno: seems to me if you really wanna "save the earth" you 'YOU' ought to be willing to make the ultimate gift. Ever heard of a guy named Jones? Do you Believe?? LOL Maybe feed yourself to the wolves????
Carl
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Humanure did you start this thread?
nope his boyfriend did :chuckle:
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These words do not reflect my opinions at all. In no way do I condone or support any acts of violence or vigilantism. It's childish and you only end up getting raped in jail.
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These words do not reflect my opinions at all. In no way do I condone or support any acts of violence or vigilantism. It's childish and you only end up getting raped in jail.
Sounds like the voice of experience.... :yike:
Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil
Thats also interesting.
Here I thought it was the relatives of all the people in Europe/Asia/Russia/N. America killed by wolves who made them sound evil. :dunno:
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These words do not reflect my opinions at all. In no way do I condone or support any acts of violence or vigilantism. It's childish and you only end up getting raped in jail.
wierd again!
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Eleven posts in a row that are clearly off topic. I think you guys can do better than that.
If this thread has run it's course, then just leave it alone.
-Steve
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Reply 195 3/12/2010
Reply 196 Yesterday
??? What brought this thread from 2009 out of the dark?