Post by: Gobble on August 11, 2009, 07:19:37 AM
You can post without signing up.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/175991.asp
Post by: EastWaViking on August 11, 2009, 07:34:02 AM
(it's the one that says "liberals think Bambi is a true story) :chuckle:
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 11, 2009, 07:51:36 AM
Post by: addicted on August 11, 2009, 08:03:44 AM
:)
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2009, 08:03:54 AM
Post by: rasbo on August 11, 2009, 08:12:37 AM
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on August 11, 2009, 08:52:47 AM
They don't have the following:
:stup: :yeah:
-Steve
Post by: CP on August 11, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
Post by: PWN Kurt on August 11, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
There's nothing in there about protecting all the poor innocent huckleberries that the bears eat each year. Something must be done!
Post by: Machias on August 11, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Post by: Kain on August 11, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
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I cannot believe the ignorance of this article. 1500 bears are killed out of how many? 25000-30000! How many bears would Washington have if there was not a liberal hunting season on them? The bear population would grow exponentially. With no natural predators other than man this would lead to mass starvation, disease and human conflict. That does not even count what would happen to other wildlife and natural resources. The WDFW has implemented a season on them that keeps the bear population at an acceptable level using actual science and not emotional drivel from the Disney crowd. Have these anti hunter groups given any thought to what would happen to the bear population without hunting?
Most bear hunters EAT the bears they kill and try to use the rest of the bear in other useful ways. As for killing sows with cubs this can happen any time of the year. Cubs are Dependant on their mothers for at least a year. Killing a sow with cubs is not common because hunters are not the mindless killers you try to paint them as. The most effective way to prevent killing of a sow with cubs is to use bait. But as you know this is now illegal due to these anti hunter groups that do not think about what consequences their action will have on the wildlife they are naively trying to protect.
I know it is hard for some of you but please at least try to THINK before you condemn bear hunters.
Post by: westsideoutdoorsman on August 11, 2009, 05:05:36 PM
I was very happy to see how you all defended our rights. When they make ridiculous statements, like they sometimes will do, put their ass to the :fire.:
Good lookin out Gobble, for the good spotting.
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on August 11, 2009, 07:51:03 PM
Post by: bow4elk on August 11, 2009, 08:05:30 PM
Boneaddict has blogged. SCARY :yike:
Change yer name to 'Blogaddict' and hand over yer longbow, city slicker! :chuckle:
Post by: runamuk on August 11, 2009, 08:07:14 PM
Boneaddict has blogged. SCARY :yike:
Change yer name to 'Blogaddict' and hand over yer longbow, city slicker! :chuckle:
OMG thats funny :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Dean44 on August 11, 2009, 08:15:42 PM
Post by: murphyranch on August 11, 2009, 08:20:53 PM
:stup: :mor:
Post by: klikboom on August 11, 2009, 09:42:30 PM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on August 11, 2009, 10:14:29 PM
Post by: Kain on August 11, 2009, 10:26:27 PM
Well i ck'd it out, but i think you guys have it covered. There is no way anyone will make it through all those comments.
I read them all. It didnt take very long. It would be helpful if everyone made a comment even if it is just repeating what has already been said. These people need to know that there is a large number of supporters for hunting. Get your family and friend to make comments even if they dont hunt. Maybe they will focus on other states if they see strong support for hunting in Washington.
Post by: Maligator on August 11, 2009, 11:09:29 PM
Post by: Kain on August 12, 2009, 10:11:22 AM
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"Men who hunt bears have tiny penises and shoot innocent animals to cope with their insecurities."
LOL! I couldn't have said it better! These "men" who kill bears clearly are struggling with their manhood. They likely have some deep-seated issues about themselves and, unfortunately, are taking them out on animals. I would bet that bear hunters have an unusually high rate of domestic abuse and criminal activity. In addition, they probably have very low IQs. Bear hunters are the underbelly of society.
Post by: runamuk on August 12, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
I sure hope some more of you post on this. The Disney crowd is posting away. Listen to the latest argument. :chuckle: :chuckle:Quote"Men who hunt bears have tiny penises and shoot innocent animals to cope with their insecurities."
LOL! I couldn't have said it better! These "men" who kill bears clearly are struggling with their manhood. They likely have some deep-seated issues about themselves and, unfortunately, are taking them out on animals. I would bet that bear hunters have an unusually high rate of domestic abuse and criminal activity. In addition, they probably have very low IQs. Bear hunters are the underbelly of society.
Well I am a girl so don't really have any problems with my penis or manhood :chuckle: :chuckle:
I love these types of arguments......
Post by: boneaddict on August 12, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
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Post by: PWN Kurt on August 12, 2009, 10:13:20 PM
Take a non-hunter shooting. Teach them hunter safety. Invite them to a BBQ where you serve them some of the best venison or bear sausage they've ever had.
Kurt
Post by: buman31 on August 14, 2009, 08:54:18 AM
1. Bear population would be out of control if it were not for Washington's hunters.
2. It is part of people's culture that should be respected, just like we should respect cultures that are different from our own hunting culture.
Would the PI do this? I bet there is a journalist who would be happy to help. We just need to find him/her.
Post by: zackmioli on August 14, 2009, 09:40:04 AM
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All of you anti's are crazy! Would you rather have these animals wasted because we are not allowed to hunt them and their population spikes and they run out of room to hunt and forage because of your "need" for large homes and suburban lifestyles? Without proper management wildlife populations will rise to an all time high, and then drop off rapidly because of starvation and disease. Animals transmit disease from one to another when they are overpopulated, the disease will run rampid through the entire herd, wiping out hundreds and thousands at a time. How will you weekend hikers enjoy walking up a trail with dead animal carcasses rotting around every corner and switchback? How will you enjoy it when you are trying to drive in to work and you smack into an 800lb elk? How will you like it when your dog or cat are killed and drug off by a cougar or bear? Anti hunting articles aren't the only ones who can play off emotion.
Think about the consequences to your actions when it comes to our wildlife and your comfort of living. Hunting is a necessary part of society, because man has taken so much land from these creatures to feed humans craving for a lavish lifestyle. If you do not want to partake in hunting, that's no problem, but do not banish something just because you do not agree. The difference of opinions and lifestyles are what this country is about. Deal with it.
-Zack
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on August 14, 2009, 10:03:45 AM
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Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on August 14, 2009, 10:23:31 AM
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I am in total 100% agreement with all of your sentiments. In the author's defense, they are simply reporting news of other people's opinion's. The PI is not actually taking a stance in this article they are simply reporting news, there is a big difference between the two. I think the best way to combat this is to give the PI our side of the story which is exactly what I did!If only that were true, unfortunately in order for the writer to get it printed, and get paid for article, it has to first cross the editor's' desk. After and IF the editor approves will it be printed.
Unfortunately this is an often misunderstood fact, that newspapers are biased propaganda mills. They are businesses that rely on advertising and contributions from businesses and politicians with personal agendas for their bottom line.$$$$$
Post by: huntnphool on August 14, 2009, 10:30:37 AM
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The bickering between you white people is amusing. The true people have always hunted brother bear and always will. We honor the bear with death and he honors the people with his spirit. This is way it has always been and always will be. Go ahead and put an end to bear hunting by the whites, more bear for the true people. Your laws mean nothing to us, your protests mean nothing to us, your bigotry means nothing us. We take more bear than whites ever will.
Don;t want to jack the thread or start another native debate but this is exactly why I told you they will never give up any of their hunting rights, because they know they don't have too!!!!
Post by: Gobble on August 14, 2009, 10:37:22 AM
These Subaru driving, tofu eating, childless immature homos and lesbian animal lovers will never see our point. Thank god most don't breed, (with success that is :P)
Post by: granola/hippyslayer on August 14, 2009, 08:05:15 PM
Just posted another comment.
These Subaru driving, tofu eating, childless immature homos and lesbian animal lovers will never see our point. Thank god most don't breed, (with success that is :P)
:beatdeadhorse: :yeah:
Post by: boneaddict on August 15, 2009, 06:40:07 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on August 15, 2009, 07:21:18 PM
Folks who don't like bear hunting and think stopping hunting would change anything for bears are laughable. All wild animals live short lives and die violent deaths, be it bullet, other trauma, disease or starvation. That remains true with or without hunting.
Without hunting, bear numbers would increase until the habitat became limited, and two things would happen: intraspecific mortality would increase (more bears killing bears in competition over resources), other resources would decline, and more bears would be killed by government officials as conflicts in the urban-wild interface increased, and as conflicts between agriculture, forestry and bears increases.
Not growing food, not growing timber, and allowing bears to take humans and cause property damage are not realistic options - anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Nobody is forced to hunt; I can understand not liking hunting for moral and aesthetic reasons, though I don't agree with those views. However, suggesting it is not necessary is both naive and illogical. All of society has a need for large carnivores (and omnivores, and herbivores) that conflict with humans to be killed. Maintaining balance with nature in environments occupied by both wildlife and humans is inevitable.
Invariably, where hunting of species that conflict with humans is made illegal, hunting is either restored to address conflicts, or government agents take over the killing. Of all the large animal species in Washington, the only one we could stop hunting and not have a need for other means of killing those animals, to address conflicts, would be mountain goats. There will always be a need for people to kill deer, elk, moose, bighorn sheep, bears and cougars to minimize and address conflicts.
The choices are: (1) allow hunters to pay for the privilege, and fund habitat conservation, wildlife research and purchasing land for wildlife with their license dollars and excise taxes; or (2) increase taxes on all taxpayers, to pay for bigger government to take over those control functions. I far prefer the former method. Of course, I am a hunter, and dearly love the activity and the meat.
Post by: boneaddict on August 16, 2009, 05:34:40 AM
You forgot to address exposing your child to the autrocities of hunting and what bear hunting has to do withthe size of your wanker. LOL
Post by: GregU on August 16, 2009, 10:24:26 AM
Stupid liberals, talking to then is like talking to a brick wall. They never learn anything!!! :bash:
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on August 16, 2009, 11:13:38 AM
All animal species are healthier when there numbers are kept in check.Hunting not only does that but increases the revenue to also protect habitat and all species that live there.Anti-hunters believe that nature is a wonderful happy go lucky place where all the animals just frolic and have a party all day long.When there is over population and the herds start running out of feed and disease sets in and they start dying horribly from starvation that seems to be okay with them. You won't see them contributing funds or there time to go feed starving elk or deer in there wintering areas.It seems that the hunting community has volunteers who are willing to help out. It has been proven that management is one of the best tools for controlling and preserving our environment and the animals that live in it.Hopefull one day the antis can dislodge there heads from where the sun don't shine and start using some common sense on this issue.
3dsheetmeta
I even blogged :IBCOOL: Sometimes you have to speak to them people like they are little children.They just can't seem to rationalize like adults.My sister in law was totally against hunting but after 3 years of talking to her about it she finally has come around.(it was exhausting) :bash:
Post by: Maligator on August 16, 2009, 04:30:45 PM
"With human populations continuing to expand into traditional black bear and cougar habitat, combined with an increased bear and cougar population, human conflicts with wildlife are inevitable. When human conflicts occur, citizens regularly call WDFW offices seeking assistance.
Conflicts between people and cougars and bears are increasing dramatically. The number of confirmed cougar and black bear complaints reported to the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife by the public has increased by 31% since 2003. WDFW received 382 confirmed cougar and 448 confirmed bear complaints in 2005. With the complaints come more property damage, livestock, and pet killings and human safety issues.
WDFW enforcement program is responsible for responding and assisting the public regarding solutions to human/dangerous wildlife complaints."