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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: mazama on August 17, 2009, 12:22:25 PM

Title: Dialing in scope
Post by: mazama on August 17, 2009, 12:22:25 PM: What is the advantage to having a scope where you have to dial in a scope for different distances, i read where so many clicks for a certain distance.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 17, 2009, 01:37:03 PM: so you can shoot real far.
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Post by: SpokaneSlayer on August 17, 2009, 01:41:35 PM: So you can just put the crosshairs where you want the bullet to go instead of holding over.
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Post by: mazama on August 17, 2009, 08:50:42 PM: I can shoot out to 800yds with mine without adjusting, i have 7 crosswires on mine with numbers off to side,just aim and shoot.
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Post by: Straight Shooter on August 18, 2009, 07:20:13 AM: Quote from: mazama on August 17, 2009, 08:50:42 PM
I can shoot out to 800yds with mine without adjusting, i have 7 crosswires on mine with numbers off to side,just aim and shoot.

As long as you know the ballistics/bullet drop (based on weight and fps) of the particular round that you are shooting.
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Post by: mazama on August 18, 2009, 09:45:17 AM: I am using Zeiss Z800, you go to their website type in bullet wt.,velocity,and bc,and will calcuate, site in at 200 and and you are good to go.
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Post by: JoshT on August 18, 2009, 12:22:37 PM: You're THEORETICALLY "good to go"... you ain't really good to go untill you've actually shot at those distances and verified the drop. Same goes for a turret, a b-plex, and even a custom reticle installed in your scope by Leupold.
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Post by: mazama on August 18, 2009, 02:12:51 PM: I burned through a lot of ammo and time verifing my drop,using a leica rangefinder i got one gun out to 700yds and my small gun with a b-plex out to 500yds,the wind was the part i didnot like.
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Post by: JoshT on August 18, 2009, 03:31:30 PM: Yep... any monkey can turn a turret or use a b-plex... but shooting in the wind quickly seperates the guys who truly know what they're doing. Hopefully, in another thousand rounds or so... I'll know what I'm doing shooting long range in the wind.
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Post by: BrandonWatts on August 19, 2009, 01:29:43 AM: read here http://www.snipercentral.com/ (http://www.snipercentral.com/) lots of good information on long range shooting. i have shot out to 650yds on a claim day and have hit my targets. the only thing is in a windy condition the wind at 600yds could be different than at 200yds tricky stuff to compensate for.
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Post by: Jamieb on August 19, 2009, 09:10:15 PM: The rifle I had in this video is zeroed dead on at 100 yards, I range a target, dial in the scope, hold the duplex cross hairs dead on, shoot the target. When the wind is down, from 0-1200 yards, range it, dial the scope, hold dead on, shoot.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv376%2Felkhunter%2Fth_turretvideo.jpg&hash=93c9736768f30f6ae22ae13ad7b212803dbc42fa) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v376/elkhunter/?action=view&current=turretvideo.flv)
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Post by: fishcrazy on August 20, 2009, 07:00:35 PM: OH SO COOL!!! Gotta love the thunk at those ranges. You make it look so easy. LOL

Kris
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Post by: OKIE2 on August 21, 2009, 02:26:11 AM: 7MM REMINGTON MAG
Loaded with 175 grain bullet 72.0 H-1000 zeroed at 400 hundred yards at 3088 FPS
Should be good for all ranges at 400 yds and less with out ajusting scope.
If you aim at front leg and belly line all shots will shoot higher up to 8.3 inches
high at 200 yards. Will be good for any deer sized animal and larger.

impack point------fps------ engery----animal weight kill
400---0 ----------2485------2399 --------705
300---+6.7-------2628------2683---------834
250---+8.1-------2701------2835---------905
200---+8.3-------2776------2994---------983
150---+7.4-------2852------3160--------1065
100---+5.4-------2929------3334--------1154
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: Jamieb on August 21, 2009, 05:42:29 PM: OKIE.
I'm not even going to comment on your numbers.
Do you really think for a minute thats better in any way then a dialing?
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Post by: JoshT on August 21, 2009, 06:42:19 PM: It's better if you want to shoot over a lot of schitt...
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Post by: Bob33 on August 21, 2009, 07:12:08 PM: The drawback with any reticle scope is shooting between them. If you have a 500 and a 600 yard reticle, that's great if the animal is at 500 or 600 yards. If the animal is at 547 yards, you have to estimate where to hold. With clicks, you can get very precise.

No system is perfect, and all require practice.
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Post by: OKIE2 on August 21, 2009, 08:03:56 PM: ok thats fine with me.
I don't live where you are and where I hunt our wild game
never stands and poses for picture taking or waits for you to
look through your range finder and then check your chart and get every
thing set on your scope so you can
take a shot at the animal that was there but gone now.
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: JoshT on August 21, 2009, 09:53:56 PM: Quote from: OKIE2 on August 21, 2009, 08:03:56 PM
ok thats fine with me.
I don't live where you are and where I hunt our wild game
never stands and poses for picture taking or waits for you to
look through your range finder and then check your chart and get every
thing set on your scope so you can
take a shot at the animal that was there but gone now.

Taking 400 yard snap shots at schitt is asking for trouble... inside 250 it's all good... but after that I want a little more thought going into a shot than:

"Look, a deer"

"He's a long ways"

"I'm sighted in for 400 yards though!"

BOOOOMMMM
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Post by: G.R.K on August 21, 2009, 10:49:57 PM: Whats wrong with that. :chuckle:
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Post by: mazama on August 22, 2009, 05:27:39 AM: I considered a scope where i could dial in range,but i was afraid i would break one of the dials,i hunt in steep rough terrain and have fallen a few times.
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Post by: Jamieb on August 22, 2009, 09:57:09 AM: If you hit a scope hard enough in the turret to hurt the scope, the main tube is going to get bent before the turret breaks.
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Post by: OKIE2 on August 22, 2009, 10:53:38 PM: "Look, a deer"

"He's a long ways"

"I'm sighted in for 400 yards though!"

BOOOOMMMM"
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Thats better than hey theres a deer i'll check the range finder then check my range chart set my scope now i'm ready
WHERE DID IT GO DAMM
at 376 yards
I feild dressed mine what did you do with yours
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: G.R.K on August 22, 2009, 10:59:11 PM: Quote from: OKIE2 on August 22, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
"Look, a deer"

"He's a long ways"

"I'm sighted in for 400 yards though!"

BOOOOMMMM"
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Thats better than hey theres a deer i'll check the range finder then check my range chart set my scope now i'm ready
WHERE DID IT GO DAMM
at 376 yards
I feild dressed mine what did you do with yours
Laffin..... :mgun:
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: JoshT on August 23, 2009, 12:57:23 PM: Quote from: OKIE2 on August 22, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
Thats better than hey theres a deer i'll check the range finder then check my range chart set my scope now i'm ready
WHERE DID IT GO DAMM
at 376 yards
I feild dressed mine what did you do with yours

After you had to track it for 3 miles because you shot it in the ass... I'd rather not shoot... or take the time to make a quality shot... than huck rounds at unknown distances that may or may not hit somewhere in an 8.5" area.

Mmmmmmmm.... yummmy.... paunch shot deer for dinner boys!
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: mossback91 on August 23, 2009, 05:05:49 PM: Alll I want to know is.........do you really smell that bad?? why is the deer running at 400 yards?
Title: Re: Dialing in scope
Post by: mazama on August 24, 2009, 06:55:49 AM: Without a rangefinder that 400yd deer could be 350-500yds,every year i hear of a guy missing a deer at about 400yds. Because he really does not know.