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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: HoofsandWings on August 17, 2009, 04:09:35 PM

Title: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: HoofsandWings on August 17, 2009, 04:09:35 PM: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2008/index.html

This time it is by how many points the animal had.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 04:39:24 PM: id prefer to know how many hunters there are
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 04:42:18 PM: Quote from: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 04:39:24 PM
id prefer to know how many hunters there are

It tells you that
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 04:44:05 PM: Why does it say 2008 but when you click on a species it says 2007? :dunno:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Machias on August 17, 2009, 04:47:04 PM: I must be stupid, I don't understand the numbers they have posted?
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 17, 2009, 04:50:51 PM: yeah Im not a fan of the numbers either... Seems like they dont want us to know what the success rate was.......... :tdown:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Buckmark on August 17, 2009, 04:54:04 PM: I have not seen it yet, but holy crap why does it take soooooo looooong to get this out???
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Machias on August 17, 2009, 04:56:12 PM: It says 107,000 elk tags sold but only 70,800 elk hunters???? Huh? :dunno:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Machias on August 17, 2009, 05:03:07 PM: I guess they are saying 37,000 folks bought tags and didn't hunt.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 05:03:29 PM: Quote from: Machias on August 17, 2009, 04:56:12 PM
It says 107,000 elk tags sold but only 70,800 elk hunters???? Huh?

only 70,800 reported
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 17, 2009, 05:05:42 PM: Or they didnt draw there eastside bull tag and went to idaho.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Buckmark on August 17, 2009, 05:12:45 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 05:03:29 PM
Quote from: Machias on August 17, 2009, 04:56:12 PM
It says 107,000 elk tags sold but only 70,800 elk hunters???? Huh?

only 70,800 reported
So 36200 did not report, sounds like alot but i guess thats possible.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 05:33:17 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 04:39:24 PM
id prefer to know how many hunters there are

It tells you that

By gmu?
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: HoofsandWings on August 17, 2009, 06:15:52 PM: Quote from: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 04:39:24 PM
id prefer to know how many hunters there are

It tells you that

By gmu?
If you use the 2007 hunter count, you get an idea of the number of hunters +/- 10%
In going back a few years, only when there is some big change in the regs or environment do the number of hunters change much.
Change in hunters from 2006 to 2007 for region one.
101 - SHERMAN   240   221   -8
PMU: P11
105 - KELLY HILL   237   247   4
PMU: P11
108 - DOUGLAS   182   165   -9
PMU: P11
111 - ALADDIN   415   448   8
PMU: P11
113 - SELKIRK   1150   1227   7
PMU: P11
117 - 49 DEGREES NORTH   1145   1257   10
PMU: P11
121 - HUCKLEBERRY   509   532   5
PMU: P11
124 - MOUNT SPOKANE   1051   1032   -2
PMU: P11
127 - MICA PEAK   454   425   -6
PMU: P11
130 - CHENEY   575   558   -3
PMU: P11
133 - ROOSEVELT   87   132   52
PMU: P11
136 - HARRINGTON   53   47   -11
PMU: P11
139 - STEPTOE   86   105   22
PMU: P11
142 - ALMOTA   135   128   -5
PMU: P13
145 - MAYVIEW   38   26   -32
PMU: P13
149 - PRESCOTT   142   165   16
PMU: P13
154 - BLUE CREEK   585   556   -5
PMU: P13
162 - DAYTON   912   1054   16
PMU: P13
163 - MARENGO   186   105   -44
PMU: P13
166 - TUCANNON   270   314   16
PMU: P13
169 - WENAHA   280   359   28
PMU: P13
172 - MOUNTAIN VIEW   361   421   17
PMU: P13
175 - LICK CREEK   520   710   37
PMU: P13
178 - PEOLA   233   242   4
PMU: P13
181 - COUSE   120   136   13
PMU: P13
186 - GRANDE RONDE   16   38   138
PMU: P13
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: HoofsandWings on August 17, 2009, 06:23:00 PM: Here is the link for number of hunters for 2007 by gmu.
Add about 10% for 2008.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/harvest/2007/db/elk_all.php
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: huntnphool on August 17, 2009, 06:26:28 PM: Quote from: WDFW-SUX on August 17, 2009, 05:05:42 PM
Or they didnt draw there eastside bull tag and went to idaho.

Or like me, Montana. ;)

It was only a guess on my part buckmark, I really don't know.

Armadillo, it only shows by GMU in special permits, some people in general hunt more than one GMU in a season.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Ghost Hunter on August 17, 2009, 06:37:05 PM: Gonna have to print it out and spread it out to figure it out :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Armadillo on August 17, 2009, 06:48:05 PM: Oh ok thanks
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: bowkid on August 17, 2009, 09:11:10 PM: Thanks for the post, was wondering if was going to get out this year.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: bobcat on August 17, 2009, 09:26:25 PM: Quote from: HoofsandWings on August 17, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
Here is the link for number of hunters for 2007 by gmu.
Add about 10% for 2008.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/harvest/2007/db/elk_all.php

Well that sucks if we're never going to have that information again and all we can do is look at the 2007 data. So in 2020 how close will the hunter numbers be? Still just have to add 10%?

So is there no way to get success rates for any of the general seasons? I do like having the data for number of antler points but not having hunter numbers or success rates blows! :bash:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: rudedawg1085 on August 17, 2009, 09:30:28 PM: im surprised on how many big elk, or elk in general were shot in puyallup and issaquah, iv lived in those areas my whole life and honestly i dont think iv ever seen an elk...all private land near hobart im thinking??????
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2009, 07:02:20 AM: Here is how messed up that is. There are only 14 permits for elk multiple weapons. 14 animals were taken, that's 100%. But it says that there were 48 hunters and the success rate was only 29%. How can there only be 14 permits but 48 hunters?????????????? :dunno:
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: bobcat on August 18, 2009, 07:12:24 AM: The multiple-season elk permits had 1500 permits, or something like that. A heck of a lot more than 14 anyway. Or are you talking about multiple-season permit holders that hunted a specific unit ???
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2009, 07:30:21 AM: Quote from: bobcat on August 18, 2009, 07:12:24 AM
The multiple-season elk permits had 1500 permits, or something like that. A heck of a lot more than 14 anyway. Or are you talking about multiple-season permit holders that hunted a specific unit ???

I am talking Multiple Weapon as it states in the report. I don't think that there was 1500 multi-season permits issued was there? Actually I just went back and looked in another area and it stated 48 permits. So I'll cut em some slack.
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: cackle on August 18, 2009, 07:33:52 AM: I think the numers ar skewed by hunters thart say they bought a tag and didnt hunt because its easier I know alot of people that hunt and kill animals and report that they didnt hunt at all
Title: Re: The new 2008 harvest report for elk is out
Post by: bobcat on August 18, 2009, 08:25:28 AM: Quote from: Matt on August 18, 2009, 07:30:21 AM
Quote from: bobcat on August 18, 2009, 07:12:24 AM
The multiple-season elk permits had 1500 permits, or something like that. A heck of a lot more than 14 anyway. Or are you talking about multiple-season permit holders that hunted a specific unit ???

I am talking Multiple Weapon as it states in the report. I don't think that there was 1500 multi-season permits issued was there? Actually I just went back and looked in another area and it stated 48 permits. So I'll cut em some slack.

You're right, it wasn't 1500. I just looked it up... there were 500 multiple-season elk permits. But that's still a lot more than 14, or 48.