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Title: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 08:13:48 PM: :hello:

Hey everybody, Trailcamera was set in Elbow Canyon, Two pictures of those 9 wolves pack in this area.
Like I said I could find ANYWHERE wolves are. I believe there is more than 30 wolves anywhere in Okanagon County.
Most recently Wolves pack were at south Elbow Canyon last week.
I will post two pics later.

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 08:22:12 PM: Quote from: SWHUNTER on August 28, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
Cool. Lets see those pictures Mulehunter.

When are you gonna set your TrailCamera up there? I can made a good GoogleMap and set it up show u where they are hanging out right now, u guys could try it out! 8)

Mulehunter :)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 08:25:36 PM: Quote from: SWHUNTER on August 28, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
I need to get a trailcam first. :)

Got CrediCard? :chuckle:

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: boneaddict on August 28, 2009, 08:26:23 PM: Thats where they denned last year. At least one pack did. :(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: jackelope on August 28, 2009, 08:37:35 PM: pics pics pics pics.

:tup:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: saylean on August 28, 2009, 08:40:44 PM: better watch my heels this fall then. :chuckle:

WHeres my wolf rug!
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 08:41:46 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on August 28, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
Thats where they denned last year. At least one pack did. :(

Yes Exactly!!! Also there is bunch of wolves in Bridge creek too!

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 08:49:35 PM: Quote from: jackelope on August 28, 2009, 08:37:35 PM
pics pics pics pics.

:tup:

Hey Jackelope, Where have u been? Havent seen u on my thread for YEARS! :dunno:

Mulehunter :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: BC CHASER on August 28, 2009, 08:50:43 PM: Quote from: jackelope on August 28, 2009, 08:37:35 PM
pics pics pics pics.

:tup:

:yeah:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: 280ackley on August 28, 2009, 09:01:35 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Bearhunter on August 28, 2009, 09:20:30 PM: Do you mean Elbow Coulee? Man I hope not I was going to poke around up there.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 09:21:17 PM: Elbow Canyon by EarthGoogle. Here some Idea where they are hanging out right now. :yike:

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 09:27:12 PM: Quote from: Bearhunter on August 28, 2009, 09:20:30 PM
Do you mean Elbow Coulee? Man I hope not I was going to poke around up there.

Maybe next year or two? I promise it will happen! Anyway

Its Elbow Cooley

Mulehunter :(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 09:28:38 PM: Thats not to far from where the wolf got hit yesterday.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on August 28, 2009, 09:29:50 PM: So are you goin to post pictures ??
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 09:34:12 PM: Quote from: SWHUNTER on August 28, 2009, 09:31:30 PM
Quote from: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
Thats not to far from where the wolf got hit yesterday.
how close was it to the highschool?

It would be soo COOL if its start school Next week.

Mulehunter :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 09:35:07 PM: Maybe three miles I think er so
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 09:36:47 PM: Here the picture.... First one It wasnt good picture! :bash: But.... Next picture is coming! ;)

Mulehunter :)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 10:35:32 PM: 2nd picture WAY BETTER whee... Now u see why S.Fitkin doesnt want ANYONE to know how MANY we have in Okanagon County. Which WDFW LIED that They promised us they will MANAGE IT! No wonder why S.Fkitkin told two Rancher its NOT wolves that killed their livestock recently. I remember S.Fitkin sent two Feild Agents to check out up hill told that were nothing up there Oh I forget.... They are Completely PROTECTING those wolves from ANGRY Rancher and WDFW dont want to pay for Loss livestock!
GREEDY GREEDY PEOPLE in WDFW DEPT!

Look at this picture here they come back for other dinner. Those Officers arent trying hard enough! :'(

By the way this wolf is from second pack in Patterson lake area >:( More than the one pack USWL claiming

Mulehunter >:(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: 270Shooter on August 28, 2009, 10:38:38 PM: Yep thats a wolf :o
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: DeKuma on August 28, 2009, 10:41:47 PM: looks like a coyote to me, and you can shoot them legally! :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 10:42:55 PM: Quote from: DeKuma on August 28, 2009, 10:41:47 PM
looks like a coyote to me, and you can shoot them legally! :chuckle: :IBCOOL:

Maybe you should buy Wdaho Tag before Open day! :chuckle:

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 10:45:19 PM: Hey Here your better INFO! First picture is VERY young pups, 2nd picture look under stomch drying up MILKER!

Mulehunter :bash:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 10:46:25 PM: She kind of looks like she had pups this spring the way she hangs down abit there.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 28, 2009, 10:49:57 PM: Quote from: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 10:46:25 PM
She kind of looks like she had pups this spring the way she hangs down abit there.

No kidding >:( Its going to be VERY INTERESTING before this winter!

Mulehunter :bash:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on August 28, 2009, 10:58:38 PM: It's going to suck this winter, the wolves will finish off the deer, the fall hunt will get the blame, next year there won't be much of a hunt, and it will go from there all over Washington. How many wolves will there have to be in the Methow Valley before they decide we have enough and can start translocating some to the rest of Washington??? >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on August 28, 2009, 11:07:54 PM: great post mulehunter.....I figured you would post the next wolf pictures.....if the state was smart they would hire you..... :tup:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: jackelope on August 29, 2009, 01:04:39 PM: good job mulehunter.
you should start a thread and post all your pic's. i know you have quite a few you could show.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 29, 2009, 01:23:59 PM: Well if there are 9 wolves in elbow coulee the deer should all be dead by next spring. :(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: cabin308 on August 29, 2009, 01:40:34 PM: Nice job and you're right mulehunter. It amazes me and pisses me off that the WDFW is trying to be so deceptive. They know where that critter in your second wolf picture is at any time. Did anyone notice it's wearing a tracking collar? :bash: >:(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on August 29, 2009, 03:08:43 PM: This exactly what we have been trying to tell people, the wdwl is not being truthful on the amount of wolves we have in the methow. This is where the find new wolf pack BS, is gong to hurt Washington. We will have so many wolves by the time they finally say if ever, that washington is ready for delisting. The only wolves they talk about are the little bitty 08 pack. They lie to your face and then snicker. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Ridgerunner on August 29, 2009, 03:26:52 PM: why don't you guys start a website or something, documentationofwolvesinwashington.com, seems like you have enough photos, gps coordinates, den locations, pack locations etc, that if you kind of gather all the info it will be harder for them to lie and say there is only one pack in the methow. I don't hunt in the methow but seems me that would be a good thing to do.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on August 29, 2009, 09:01:50 PM: Thanks guys, Just like to help ya out to know what is out there. Just want to share with ya bit about it. They travel all over place hardly get picture with in one or two week with LOT patients! No need Bait or anything. Look for those most fresh tracks then learn how they travel and why they came this way etc. Most likely they travel same CIRCLE same IDEA as Elk Path. Follow the Wolves track and set TrailCamera where two foot to one foot wide of most traffic trail because Wolves use nose on track whole the times on wild animals tracks. Thats how they hunt animals.

Today They mostly hang out East of Twisp area and south of Lake Patterson whole summer Close to Valley where all Rancher lives. When Rifle Season open they moved upper hill from valley WEST of Wintrop toward to Sawtooth Canyon due to pressure Deer hunting. FYI where they travel West while Modern Rifle open. They wouldnt not be around with in 8 miles below south from hwy 20 thur Oct month. U wont be able to get reposned their Howling if your going more FAR West while Rifle season.

I will post map when winter start to hit, I will post later. :drool:

This picture is where they hang out 8 to 15 miles West and little south between Lake of Chelan and wintrop when Rifle season open. They might travel different for some different reason.

Warn Wolves track can look a lot same Coyote but Track look like 4 to 4 half inches track. Coyote is 2 to 3 inches But pups could look same as Coyote. Dont feel upset if you find smaller Tracks but it could be Pups Tracks Worth it to try set TrailCamera. Almost impossible never see Coyote in TrailCamera.

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: cabin308 on August 31, 2009, 09:07:25 AM: This article was on the front page of Sunday's Spokesman Review. I was surprised that this paper would print something positive for hunting as a management tool for all big game.....wolves too. :o

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/aug/30/wolf-hunting-just-one-facet-of-management-experts/
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Yak-NDN on August 31, 2009, 09:41:11 AM: My regs don't say anything about killing wolves can I take care of your problem? I would kill all them basters If I wasn't going to get into trouble for it. Maybe I can get a wolf tag from the Tribe.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: WDFW-SUX on August 31, 2009, 09:45:56 AM: YAK-NDN, I will worship you forever and never say another bad thing about an Indian if you and some friends take up wolf hunting in the Methow :twocents:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: woodswalker on August 31, 2009, 10:02:24 AM: Quote from: Yak-NDN on August 31, 2009, 09:41:11 AM
My regs don't say anything about killing wolves can I take care of your problem? I would kill all them basters If I wasn't going to get into trouble for it. Maybe I can get a wolf tag from the Tribe.

Yak-NDN, were wolf head dresses used used by the Yakama tribe?

not trying to be snarky, just wondering...
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Yak-NDN on August 31, 2009, 10:04:37 AM: Yes I think so.. Let me think of some other traditional proposes for wolf and we can clean this problem up.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: cabin308 on August 31, 2009, 10:05:37 AM: Quote from: WDFW-SUX on August 31, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
YAK-NDN, I will worship you forever and never say another bad thing about an Indian if you and some friends take up wolf hunting in the Methow :twocents:

Don't stop with the Methow. Hell, hunt wolves throughout the state!
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Ridgerunner on August 31, 2009, 10:30:57 AM: I think that is the best solution out there, go get em!
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 31, 2009, 02:40:36 PM: Quote from: wolfbait on August 29, 2009, 03:08:43 PM
This exactly what we have been trying to tell people, the wdwl is not being truthful on the amount of wolves we have in the methow. This is where the find new wolf pack BS, is gong to hurt Washington. We will have so many wolves by the time they finally say if ever, that washington is ready for delisting. The only wolves they talk about are the little bitty 08 pack. They lie to your face and then snicker. >:( >:( >:(
Great Job Mulehunter! Those pictures show (maybe) two animals. Did you get more that show there are a bunch around? Any pictures with multiple animals?
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Yak-NDN on September 01, 2009, 10:10:20 PM: Who has a wolf cook book? Not into just waisting.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 02, 2009, 06:36:37 AM: Quote
Who has a wolf cook book? Not into just waisting.

wolf on a stick...
wolf balls & gravy...
deep fried wolf...
wolf mcnuggets...
wolf & fries...
kentucky fried wolf...
bisquet & wolf...
bbq wolf...
wolf & eggs...
basted wolf...
wolf stew...
sweet & sour wolf...
wolf pie...
wolf kabobs...
idaho wolf oysters...
wolf liver & onions...
wolf tongue...
pickled wolf feet...
leg of wolf...
wolf roast...
wolf t-bone..
wolf ribeye...
wolf blood pudding...
wolf brain...
wolf pizza...
wolf spaghetti...
wolf burgers...
wolf jerky...
wolf veal puplets...
wolf gall bladder...

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: SSG Brower on September 02, 2009, 03:18:37 PM: Quote from: Bearhunter on August 28, 2009, 09:20:30 PM
Do you mean Elbow Coulee? Man I hope not I was going to poke around up there.

they've been there for about 9 years or so. the first time i saw them was right in war creek camp ground two years in a row.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: jackelope on September 02, 2009, 03:22:46 PM: Quote
wolf balls & gravy...

new age rocky mountain oysters?
:dunno:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 07:36:27 PM: Those pictures show (maybe) two animals. Did you get more that show there are a bunch around? Any pictures with multiple animals?
[/quote]

Yes you right, I wish you could take a look yourself in Okanagon County, By the way How is Diamond Pack doing? Have u been following them lately? I bet there is more than 20 already behind them.

Mulehunter :dunno:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 07:37:49 PM: Quote from: Yak-NDN on August 31, 2009, 09:41:11 AM
My regs don't say anything about killing wolves can I take care of your problem? I would kill all them basters If I wasn't going to get into trouble for it. Maybe I can get a wolf tag from the Tribe.

Any News from your TRIBE Cheif? What he say? :drool:

Mulehunter :)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 07:40:21 PM: Quote from: bearpaw on September 02, 2009, 06:36:37 AM
Quote
Who has a wolf cook book? Not into just waisting.

wolf on a stick...
wolf balls & gravy...
deep fried wolf...
wolf mcnuggets...
wolf & fries...
kentucky fried wolf...
bisquet & wolf...
bbq wolf...
wolf & eggs...
basted wolf...
wolf stew...
sweet & sour wolf...
wolf pie...
wolf kabobs...
idaho wolf oysters...
wolf liver & onions...
wolf tongue...
pickled wolf feet...
leg of wolf...
wolf roast...
wolf t-bone..
wolf ribeye...
wolf blood pudding...
wolf brain...
wolf pizza...
wolf spaghetti...
wolf burgers...
wolf jerky...
wolf veal puplets...
wolf gall bladder...

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Wonder if those Japan Or China could buy a Wolf Gall Bladder on Market? How much its worth to sell? :chuckle:

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 02, 2009, 07:41:36 PM: I don't even know if a wolf has a gall bladder, but it sounded good.... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 08:00:03 PM: Hey Yak-NaN Do you want to mount this one of those Female Wolf in this picture? She will look GOOD in your house! Check it out over there! I hope Your Cheif give you a Permission! I would be SUPRIRSED if He give u one! Well, Check EarthGoogle Map above and use Lure Coyote and Caller and Elk Bugle Or Crying Fawn might help u get her come to u! :rolleyes:

By the way if She has Collar on her, Make sure you contact Scott Fitkin to have him take collar off her neck. :dunno:

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 02, 2009, 08:04:42 PM: mulehunter....great photo, way to go.... :tup:

Yak-NaN....if you can hunt wolves, we all ought to create a gas fund so you can hunt wolves all you want.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 08:28:27 PM: This picture is one of BEST. Love this pic even on my background screen Whole YEAR!

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 03, 2009, 06:35:33 AM: Quote from: mulehunter on September 02, 2009, 07:36:27 PM

Those pictures show (maybe) two animals. Did you get more that show there are a bunch around? Any pictures with multiple animals?

Yes you right, I wish you could take a look yourself in Okanagon County, By the way How is Diamond Pack doing? Have u been following them lately? I bet there is more than 20 already behind them.

Mulehunter :dunno:
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Nah- the diamond pack is small...only two adults and maybe four pups...depending on survival. Keep in mind ID id just a jog away and they could get balsted too.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 03, 2009, 07:01:39 AM: Great photos mulehunter, do you have more?
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 03, 2009, 07:03:16 AM: Looks like a bobcat!!
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 06, 2009, 08:16:43 AM: Here another one from recently spring. Look like red tag on Ear?

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 06, 2009, 08:19:36 AM: This Wolf so BIG in picture! This picture were Recently Summer 09

Mulehunter :o
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 06, 2009, 08:26:43 AM: Canadian Wolves kill deer this spring. It happen at north of Carlton about 3 miles little West around there! If you have a chance to hike up in mountain. It will be GOOD experience for you people. First find the Track or go top of mountain and use Scope all over the white snow and might spot a RED BLOOD then go down there. I would say there will be PLENTLY to see this coming winter because there is TWO packs already in this area.

It should be between Wintrop and twisp and Carlton for sure around there! ;)

Mulehunter :(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 07, 2009, 08:16:10 PM: awesome pics mulehunter..... :tup:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 13, 2009, 03:24:21 AM: have you gotten any more good photos lately....

I still say they should have you working on the wolf team.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on September 13, 2009, 07:22:10 AM: The "wolf team" don't want people working for them that tell it how it really is. Just like in Idaho and Montana and all the other states that have been a part of the wolf recovery. The USFG and WDFG don't want Washintons true wolf count to become public information. They want people to think that Washinton is just now starting wolf recovery, more money, more wolves, more lies. They know they are above the law, they have proven that with the wolf reintruduction right from the start. >:( >:(
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 13, 2009, 07:48:06 AM: Bearpaw, We are start to slow down, Waitting till SNOW time! :IBCOOL: Working on my project on our Ranch. Lot things to do and hunting season too also Taking my hounds out hunting Coons. How FUN!!! :rolleyes:. No time to go scouting around counting...

How is Diamond Pack? :dunno: :dunno: Anybody tracking those?

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 13, 2009, 07:53:11 AM: Quote from: wolfbait on September 13, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
The "wolf team" don't want people working for them that tell it how it really is. Just like in Idaho and Montana and all the other states that have been a part of the wolf recovery. The USFG and WDFG don't want Washintons true wolf count to become public information. They want people to think that Washinton is just now starting wolf recovery, more money, more wolves, more lies. They know they are above the law, they have proven that with the wolf reintruduction right from the start. >:( >:(

:yeah:

Mulehunter
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 13, 2009, 08:02:57 AM: I have not heard of anyone following the Diamond Pack. Can't wait to see more of your photos this winter..... ;)

For all you guys who think some of us only bitch about wolves, you know if I had any faith in honest management I would be glad to see a few wolves in Washington. But when the WDFW tries to push through a management plan that doesn't even include hunting in the future management I am smart enough to see that they are not looking out for hunters best interest.

When Washington is the only state to put "Defenders of Wildlife" links on their website up goes another red warning flag. In case you haven't realized it, that is the anti-hunting group that is suing to stop hunting "management" in the other states. :bash:

Time to pull your head out of the sand my friends... :twocents:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: mulehunter on September 13, 2009, 08:19:59 AM: Bearpaw, I am working on my HOMEMADE scent! I recived 109 pictures of same Coyote last thursday staying same spot figure out what scent for two hours. TWO HOURS :IBCOOL: This must be a LEADER Coyote END UP DUMB! It was new spot for now and more pictures will come soon!

Mulehunter ;)
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: wolfbait on September 13, 2009, 08:57:34 AM: Good Job, Mulehunter, Nice pics.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 14, 2009, 12:39:56 AM: very cool pics mulehunter.....
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Idabooner on September 14, 2009, 12:09:58 PM: Home made scent, mulehunter I think your onto something, great idea, good for you.
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: bearpaw on September 16, 2009, 05:11:48 AM: mulehunter, if this scent is something that you like making and doing, I think there is a really good market out there for it.... :twocents:
Title: Re: Wolves in the Methow Valley
Post by: Alchase on September 16, 2009, 07:51:44 AM: That is one healthy looking critter.