Post by: Gobble on September 02, 2009, 12:47:45 PM
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/178041.asp
Post by: Curly on September 02, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
Post by: Machias on September 02, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 02, 2009, 03:25:58 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 02, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 02, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on September 02, 2009, 04:04:44 PM
Post by: Curly on September 02, 2009, 04:24:26 PM
The HSUS has done nothing good.
Yeah, that.
I wish they were required to change their name. It's too bad that their name is so similar to the local Humane Society which does good things............HSUS is bad news.
Post by: deaddog on September 02, 2009, 04:40:48 PM
I may have voted for Obama but I didn't vote for Cantwell. (I replace the "a" with a "u" in my pronunciation of her name) I can't stand her or Greg Nickels. We can get into the details but I can't stand a democrat on the state level of government. The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...Well hell pope, that little fact must help you sleep at night, only voting for anti-gun agenda morons in the presidential election. :dunno:
Post by: Gobble on September 02, 2009, 04:59:09 PM
I may have voted for Obama but I didn't vote for Cantwell. (I replace the "a" with a "u" in my pronunciation of her name) I can't stand her or Greg Nickels. We can get into the details but I can't stand a democrat on the state level of government. The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
The HSUS and the Humane Society are 2 complete different orgs. The HSUS is 100% anti hunting and a PETA backed, Anti gun group. The humane society is a fairly decent org but still not a pro hunting group
Post by: runamuk on September 02, 2009, 05:00:11 PM
I may have voted for Obama but I didn't vote for Cantwell. (I replace the "a" with a "u" in my pronunciation of her name) I can't stand her or Greg Nickels. We can get into the details but I can't stand a democrat on the state level of government. The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
HSUS is only I repeat ONLY the humane society in name....they do not fund any humane societies they do not operate any shelters they shut down dog fighting operations like vicks for publicity and donations, they fund anti hunting, anti breeding, anti ownership laws across the world, they are a vile nasty anti human group that has nothing good to do for animals. The CEO is a vegan who doesn't even own a pet and has been quoted at an animal liberation type rally as saying "one generation and out" his idea for all domesticated animals....
sorry this really raises my blood pressure I do not like their sneaky underhanded theft from innocent people who care about animals. They are in many ways scarier than peta will ever be......
I will be sending a nice letter to miss cantwel regarding her choice of domestic terrorist for key speaker...appalling :bash: :bash:
Post by: Machias on September 02, 2009, 05:45:07 PM
The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
Pope, your local Humane Society and HSUS are two different entities. I think MOST Americans are also duped by the similar names.
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 02, 2009, 11:15:05 PM
The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
Pope, your local Humane Society and HSUS are two different entities. I think MOST Americans are also duped by the similar names.
Oh, I didn't know they were different. I think the group that finds homes for lost animals is a decent cause. Sounds like the HSUS isn't good at all. Well, thanks for giving me one more reason to hate Cantwell...
Sounds like Deaddog is mad I'm not his enemy on this. Sorry, but my life and choice doesn't revolve around my precious guns. I like them but I use a shovel and a fishing pole more often than my guns. :P
Post by: bearpaw on September 02, 2009, 11:43:07 PM
I may have voted for Obama but I didn't vote for Cantwell. (I replace the "a" with a "u" in my pronunciation of her name) I can't stand her or Greg Nickels. We can get into the details but I can't stand a democrat on the state level of government. The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
The HSUS and the Humane Society are 2 complete different orgs. The HSUS is 100% anti hunting and a PETA backed, Anti gun group. The humane society is a fairly decent org but still not a pro hunting group
gobble has it right.....the HSUS is completely different than the HS. The HSUS has nothing to do with Humane Society and animal shelters. HSUS is political organization and nothing more.
Post by: Machias on September 03, 2009, 06:31:07 AM
The Humane Society has done some good things as far as animal adoptions but they have done some negative things that affect me regarding hunting. They aren't PETA but they aren't good either...
Pope, your local Humane Society and HSUS are two different entities. I think MOST Americans are also duped by the similar names.
Oh, I didn't know they were different. I think the group that finds homes for lost animals is a decent cause. Sounds like the HSUS isn't good at all. Well, thanks for giving me one more reason to hate Cantwell...
Sounds like Deaddog is mad I'm not his enemy on this. Sorry, but my life and choice doesn't revolve around my precious guns. I like them but I use a shovel and a fishing pole more often than my guns. :P
I'm a little shocked Pope, honestly. I thought you were joking with us. I thought every single hunter and fisherman knew the difference between the HSUS and their local humane shelter. I knew the average American didn't know this, but I thought every Sportsmen did. And the last two lines is what makes me cringe with Hunters who support the Democratic Party. The Democratic leaders at the National Level are FAR more dangerous to yours and mine hunting and fishing rights then the local politicians. IMNSOHO My life and choice DOES revolve around hunting and fishing and your empowering our most powerful enemy, I just don't get it.
Post by: bearpaw on September 03, 2009, 06:41:49 AM
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Sounds like Deaddog is mad I'm not his enemy on this. Sorry, but my life and choice doesn't revolve around my precious guns. I like them but I use a shovel and a fishing pole more often than my guns. :P
no offense meant....but the HSUS also wants to stop you from fishing, eating meat, wearing leather, and the list goes on.....I think they are the group that protests at Red Lobster and McDonalds restaurants. :twocents:
These groups are the very people you should be worried about if you are a fisherman. :twocents:
Post by: Dean44 on September 03, 2009, 06:58:23 AM
Sounds like Deaddog is mad I'm not his enemy on this. Sorry, but my life and choice doesn't revolve around my precious guns. I like them but I use a shovel and a fishing pole more often than my guns. :P
And which will you use to defend your life and freedom?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 03, 2009, 03:56:10 PM
Sounds like Deaddog is mad I'm not his enemy on this. Sorry, but my life and choice doesn't revolve around my precious guns. I like them but I use a shovel and a fishing pole more often than my guns. :P
And which will you use to defend your life and freedom?
Probably all three. I'll use my gun to kill my enemy, the shovel to bury them, and the fishing pole to feed myself... ;)
I have a political philosophy regarding dems vs repubs. I prefer repubs on the local and state level. I think local government should be small and non-existent. I think property and local taxes should be gone. On a national level, it depends on the person running. I disagree that there is more risk on the national level. There have been much more restrictive state and local rules regarding guns and where/when people can possess them than there has ever been on a national level.
Machias - I understand the risks to our guns from the national level. I'm not too worried about those risks. Worst case scenario I might lose my ability to get a 15 round clip for my handgun on a Clinton type ban... I might have to get one used... Like I said, I have many more issues I'm worried about than my gun rights. Everyone is different and what is important to you doesn't have to be as important to me.
Bearpaw - go back and read my last post. To get this back on topic I am worried about groups like HSUS. We can argue for fun but we are on the same side of the fence on that issue...
Post by: Machias on September 03, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 03, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
your Democratic party
My party? I simply voted for one democratic candidate. You should have seen the rest of my ballot. If I voted for Rossi are they also my republican party? Are they both my party now? I'm not sure how this works... :dunno:
Post by: Machias on September 03, 2009, 07:40:46 PM