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Title: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 27, 2009, 02:02:51 PM
I titled this thread Canada Revealed because so many of us think there is some high fence that prevents us from going north.  There are much more opportunities for wildlife and photography north of the border.  I spent the last 10 days trekking through Canada and visited at least 6 national parks including Jasper, Banff, Yoho, Kootenei, etc. 

I'll post these as I go the next few days.  This first photo is Moraine Lake in Banff.  Yeah, the water really is that color.  Amazing lake and one that graces many covers of books and magazines every year.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/Moraine%20Lake%20800%20px.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: coop2424 on September 27, 2009, 02:13:18 PM
Awesome Picture.  Can't wait to see the rest. 
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Post by: dontgetcrabs on September 27, 2009, 02:14:10 PM
Wow that's beautiful!
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Post by: Jeffrey on September 27, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Just outstanding for sure.  Was there in the "film era".  Would love to back now.  Looking forward to your posts.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: shanevg on September 27, 2009, 02:45:04 PM
I'm also excited for your posts!  I love Canada, I always say I wished I live there if only for their awesome hunting opportunities!  They do really overdo the Canadian flag up there though...  :P

I'm excited for your pictures, as always I am sure they are great!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 27, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
I hiked a long ways for these goats.  No billys but lots of nannies and kids.  Here the two kids were pushing each other to see who would jump off this mini cliff first.  It was about 15 feet down to the next ledge and they eventually jumped it.  More to come.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/kids.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 27, 2009, 05:38:31 PM
I climbed with a headlamp to the top of a mountain in the dark to get this sunrise shot.  I was kind of scared of griz and had my hand near the bear spray at all times. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/sunrise%20sheep.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: bow4elk on September 27, 2009, 05:40:21 PM
I'm speechless... :tup:
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: luvtohnt on September 27, 2009, 05:46:18 PM
You should give up that Liar I mean lawyer gig and do professional photography. You could probably make as much or more for your pictures!!

Brandon
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: andrew_12gauge on September 27, 2009, 06:45:38 PM
I climbed with a headlamp to the top of a mountain in the dark to get this sunrise shot.  I was kind of scared of griz and had my hand near the bear spray at all times. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/sunrise%20sheep.jpg)


this might be the coolest photo ive ever seen on the site(besides some of the  hunting success pics), nice shots pope
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 27, 2009, 06:46:16 PM
Lake Louise is a great place.  By the way, if you are into goats they are located on that mountain just below the glaciers...  Have a fun hike!

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/lake%20louise.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Wea300mag on September 27, 2009, 07:12:30 PM
Sweet pics pope
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Post by: shanevg on September 27, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
I climbed with a headlamp to the top of a mountain in the dark to get this sunrise shot.  I was kind of scared of griz and had my hand near the bear spray at all times. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/sunrise%20sheep.jpg)


I love that one!

Lake Louise is a great place.  By the way, if you are into goats they are located on that mountain just below the glaciers...  Have a fun hike!


I'll have to go check them out sometime!   ;)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 27, 2009, 10:27:59 PM
Last one for tonight.  I'll post more in the next few days as I have a chance to go through the 3600+ photos I took.  Here's a little mud flinging from a little satelite bull...

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/mud%20flinger.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: JoeVon on September 27, 2009, 10:32:16 PM
That last one is F@#$kin sweet!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: tony04 on September 27, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
how do you take such great pictures? those pics are awsome!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: shanevg on September 27, 2009, 10:54:41 PM
That last one is F@#$kin sweet!

 :yeah:

Plus, if that is a satellite bull I would sure love to hunt that herd!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: scoyoc5 on September 28, 2009, 04:07:18 AM
Pope what a trip! your pictures are truly professional. I'll be checking in from time to time on this thread. That bull pic is awesome. Thanks for sharing your adventure!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: robb92 on September 28, 2009, 04:07:52 AM
Great pics!!!! thanks for posting them!!!
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Post by: kitsap on September 28, 2009, 07:34:37 AM
Shawn,

Absolutely outstanding pictures!

Thanks for sharing.

DougF
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 28, 2009, 07:44:01 AM
Thanks all.  I had time this morning for a quick herd bull shot. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/7x7.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Tom Reichner on September 28, 2009, 09:26:15 AM
Hi, Shawn  -  great images, as always!

That's a great bull.  I was down in CO photographing elk while you were up north.  They just don't grow that big down there.  Many of the herd bulls there were about as big as the bull in your satellite pic.  It was a great photo trip, but it looks like you've certainly found the better place for trophy-caliber subjects. 

Along with everyone else, I look forward to seeing many more pics from your trip!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: backwoods_boy on September 28, 2009, 01:58:51 PM
really amazing!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: tlbradford on September 28, 2009, 02:54:46 PM
They all are just so good.  Truly inspiring.  Thanks Shawn for posting these photos. 

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Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 28, 2009, 03:22:14 PM
As usual Shawn Superb photo's
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Post by: Ricochet on September 28, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
Awesome shots, Shawn.   8)
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Post by: mossback91 on September 28, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
Awesome pope!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 28, 2009, 05:54:32 PM
Ever see a big elk swim like a lab?   :chuckle:

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/lab.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 28, 2009, 06:08:10 PM
Alien?

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/alien.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 28, 2009, 06:10:40 PM
I shot this before sunrise.  This is Jasper park and that is a major mountain range on the left.  It was black out with just color from where the sun was going to rise.  Notice the star visible on the left side of the frame?  I love this shot because not one adjustment was made in photoshop. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/sunrise.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: JoeVon on September 28, 2009, 06:22:34 PM
Thats a real pretty pic....Looks like you had a great time.  Can't wait to see more! 
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: PacificNWhunter on September 28, 2009, 08:29:13 PM
Great pic's Pope...incredible trip.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 29, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Here is a smaller herd bull that took over a herd when the big bull died.  There is controversy over why the big one died but we do know he was shot with a crossbow.  Whether it was a poacher or park service employee remains a mystery.

Regardless, I love it when you can see their breat in the first hour of daylight.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/breath.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: luvtohnt on September 29, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
Do park officials regularly kill big bulls with crossbows?

Brandon
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: shanevg on September 29, 2009, 09:06:29 PM
That last one where you can see his breath is awesome!!!

But a park ranger killing a herd bull with a crossbow?  Seems weird to me...
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Timber on September 29, 2009, 09:24:31 PM
Very cool stuff Shawn. You have awesome landscapes to go along with great wildlife shots!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2009, 09:31:46 PM
Holy balls :yike:   You outdid yourself this time.  Not just one unreal shot but a whole string of them.  I'm constantly amazed what you come up with on "film".  and the quality overall of shots showing up on here the last week. 
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 29, 2009, 10:56:52 PM
Do park officials regularly kill big bulls with crossbows?

Brandon

Thanks all.  The rumor is the park was killing bulls because they were causing havoc and attacking cars.  A few of the big herd bulls were really not scared of people and charging them.  The rumor is the park service took a few of the big bulls out.  Because they could not shoot them with a gun, they could have been shooting them with a cross bow.  One elk didn't die from the shot though and they were tracking it for a few days. 

I'm not saying this is true.  This is the rumor I heard from a few photographers.  Interesting conspiracy theory though if true.

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Tom Reichner on September 30, 2009, 07:44:35 AM
Do park officials regularly kill big bulls with crossbows?

Brandon

Thanks all.  The rumor is the park was killing bulls because they were causing havoc and attacking cars.  A few of the big herd bulls were really not scared of people and charging them.  The rumor is the park service took a few of the big bulls out.  Because they could not shoot them with a gun, they could have been shooting them with a cross bow.  One elk didn't die from the shot though and they were tracking it for a few days. 

I'm not saying this is true.  This is the rumor I heard from a few photographers.  Interesting conspiracy theory though if true.

Thanks all.

Did anyone ask a ranger point-blank if the officials had done this?  I've asked things like that at Yellowstone and gotten some surprisingly honest answers.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: zackmioli on September 30, 2009, 08:53:18 AM
seriously awesome photos. i could look at them all day. thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 30, 2009, 01:04:21 PM
I didn't ask any rangers about the rumor.  I did get the feeling there was some animosity amongst the photographers and the park staff.  I'm not sure if the photogs were using the story for an excuse on the down year or what.  It was interesting though.  I do know the park had killed a couple bulls that were injured and were real on top of each bull. 
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Curly on September 30, 2009, 01:09:38 PM
I hiked a long ways for these goats.  No billys but lots of nannies and kids.  Here the two kids were pushing each other to see who would jump off this mini cliff first.  It was about 15 feet down to the next ledge and they eventually jumped it.  More to come.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/kids.jpg)


I love all the pics, Pope......but this one with the kids is great.  I love the expression on the kid's faces. :)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 30, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
Thanks Curly.  I had an absolute ball with them.  These kids were jumping around and on top of each other playing around.  They would jump off a cliff and then go back up, pushing each other off and nudging each other.  It was really comical.  I got about 300 photos of the action.  I have one series I'll post on here when I get a chance.  It's about a 5 image sequence of one jumping off a cliff.  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 30, 2009, 06:40:11 PM
I have never had a chance to shoot white tailed ptarmigan.  I took advantage of the opportunity and got about 300 shots of them. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/ptarmigan.jpg)
 
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/ptarmigan%202.jpg)

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/ptarmigan%203.jpg)

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/fire%20elk.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: olsy on September 30, 2009, 06:51:35 PM
Wow Pope.  You never cease to amaze me!! Simply Amazing.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: bowelkaholic on September 30, 2009, 07:30:17 PM
Them some great pic. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 18, 2009, 11:24:20 PM
I was messing with one of my favorite photos from canada and figuring out a way to have exif and a signature automatically displayed through Lightroom.  I figured it out so you'll see that on the bottom of my photos.  When I was learning to take pictures the best way was to look at the exposure and equipment used to figure out how someone did something.  I bought Art Wolfe's book Edge of the Earth, Corner of the Sky and noted he also gave exif for every image.  Hopefully it will help some in the future.

I had amazing light in Canada for about 2 minutes one evening.  You only get light like this once every year or so as the whole sky and everything lit up pink.  I had been shooting mountain goats and dropped my camera bag throwing stuff to find my wide angle lens.  My wife was calling me on the walkie talkie whining she was hungry and I just ignored her, set up the tripod, and snapped one shot before the light went away.  I took 5 more shots after the light went away but none came out like this shot.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/Lake%20Louise.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: swanny on October 19, 2009, 07:49:08 AM
Great shot Pope! All these Canada shots are wonderful and make me want to do a road trip.

Question, what does your post processing typically consist of? One thing I am always curious about when you see the EXIF date that people post with their pictures is how true that information really is still. I am at no way doubting that you take AMAZING pictures, but it's just something I have always been curious about.

I try to keep all my photos as close to original as possible, generally they get sharpened greatly when put on the computer, but if I do bump anything exposures, white balance, etc up or down (which usually I do) I try to keep it to only one click either way. If it gets to be more than that I know the picture didn't turn out.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 19, 2009, 12:50:55 PM
That's a great question Swanny.  It varies from photo to photo.  If you are in the photojournalist business you keep it right out of the camera and there is no funny stuff allowed.  However, others have variability on what they can do.  In the end it's a personal decision on how much you want to manipulate a photo.  Remember, images aren't always designed to just give an accounting of what was there.  Images can be art and in your art you can make it how you want.  A great example of that is HDR.  HDR is very controversial.

I bought a book by Art Wolfe this weekend as I mentioned.  I would note that in his famous book Edge of the Earth, Corner of the Sky he did a lot of post process photo manipulation.  He was open and honest about it and there were major changes to photos in the book.  Everyone has their limit on what they can and will do and I don't think there is anything wrong with someone who manipulates it highly and someone that doesn't as long as they are upfront and honest about it.

Me personally, I am ok with photo manipulation to a point.  I like HDR, but like to keep it as close to real or what I saw than to really HDR the heck out of it.  I think a light HDR is actually closer to the original scene than taking a shot with a small dynamic range camera.  Your eye has more dynamic range than a camera so why can't your images reflect that?  Sure, it may not look real in terms of what you are use to with photography.  But if it looks more like the scene that you shot why is that wrong?

For the photo below I didn't do much of anything and most shots I don't do too much.  For the photo below I simply did a white balance change to "shade" as there was no sun and it was a shade situation.  I did bump the contrast a tad and pulled the "recovery" slider up to get some detail back in the blown out clouds.  That's it.  I didn't even sharpen the photo as I forgot.  In fact, this amazing light is something I don't see but once every 5 years or so.  I can truly say that the light below was some of the best I have ever experienced in nature.  It was so odd how the whole sky and mountain lit up pink.  I will post a shot of the same scene only 1 minute later when I get home.  The lack of pink will astound you and it's amazing how light plays such a key role in good photos.

My normal processing strategy is to adjust the exposure, white balance, recovery or fill light as needed, contrast, and then sharpen.  On some photos you don't need to do all those steps.  Occasionally I'll run a noise plugin on noisy photos as well.  I have rubber stamped out a barbed wire fence or distracting artifacts but that is rare to do and I don't have any ethical problem with that. 

So, if you want to just go one click either way that is great.  I'll go as far as I need to get the scene back to what it looked like when I took the photo.  If that means dropping the exposure 2 stops because I messed up on the exposure than so be it.  My goal is to create art.  By the way, that is the whole premise with shooting RAW.  RAW allows a greater latitude than shooting jpg photos.  That's the one and best reason to shoot a dslr.  By the way, I use to be a photojournalist and couldn't do much of anything but a light burn or dodge on photos.  Also, I learned photography with slide film so what you shot is what you got.  If you were off on exposure by 1/2 a stop, it was a ruined slide.  Honestly, that wasn't fun.  I welcome the latitude we have these days.  Photography is much more fun now.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 19, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
Regarding photos in this thread, the first one of Moraine Lake is an HDR image.  The rest are all pretty straight right out of the camera.  The silouette ram is just a white balance change.  I got some questions about the elk blowing the steam in his bugle.  That background was really that blue but the secret was they were burning garbage near where I took the image and the background is blueish smoke from the incinerator...   :chuckle:  On the ptarmigan shot you can see a blurred pink background.  The secret there is that's the coat on my 4 year old daughter standing in the background.  I didn't realize she was standing in the image when I took it but thought it looked cool so I kept the image.  Sometimes, stuff just happens.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: swanny on October 19, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
Thanks for that post Pope, it was great to read your perspective on manipulation. It seems to be a gray area depending on who you talk to. I think I would have to agree on changing it to look like what was there, but I think it is important to understand how to get as close to what was there in the first place. I'm still really new to photography and I know there are a TON of people on this site that are getting into it also.

The extremely colorful sky photos are always the pictures I tend to have to look at twice. It's so hard to get that pink and purple sky that a lot of photo's have that it makes you wonder, as it's not always something you see. Like you said, it's something you only get one every 5 years, and that statement can't be more true.

Your tutorials and willingness to help explain how you got a photo to look like it does are truly appreciated. They really make me look forward to the next time I get out to shoot some photos.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2009, 05:24:06 PM
your shots are amazing.  Even with the great equipment, your pics are just superior quality.  I like the fact you don't over process.  AAnother reason I like your photos.  I hate over processing.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 19, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Thanks for the kind words.  I promised I would post that other shot that was taken just a couple minutes later.  I processed these 100% the same with the same white balance and sliders.  Look at the difference in the light in just a couple of minutes.  The one thing I really remembered was the pink on the mountain.  It's just not there in the second shot.  Notice the f-stop is dropped down so I could get it to look bright and stay within a 30 second exposure.  It was nearly dark when I took this image.  It was hard to see.  Still a decent image, but I would have missed amazing light had I not been ready.

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/Lake%20Louise%202.jpg)

I wanted to also talk about a photo trick I used recently in the Yellowstone thread.  It is the shot of Mt. Rainier that is bright red.  While the sunset was amazing that day (due to that huge wind storm in eastern WA a few weeks ago), I used a technique to isolate what I wanted and that makes the picture seem almost unnatural because of the color.  The whole sky is bright red/orange and there is no blue in the sky.  we all know that can't happen.  I was using a 70-200mm lens plus the 1.6x crop factor with a crop camera for a focal length of about 320mm.  Then I cropped heavily just the mountain to get only that portion of the sky that was red.  This technique only works for silouette images because you could never see the detail in the mountain from such a long distance.  I took that shot from Ritzville outside of spokane and made the mountain look big.  Here is a full size image and not one thing is altered on this photo including the original white balance.  No cropping or sharpening other than what you get when you save as jpg.  Notice the cars from the freeway in the foreground...   :chuckle:

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/Mt_%20Rainier.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: DesertBighorn on October 19, 2009, 08:55:54 PM
Awesome shots Shawn!!!   :tup: :tup:  I missed the start or your thread while I was in GTNP.  You do better than I do when I have the family along.   ;)

-Doug
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 22, 2009, 06:59:44 PM
Back to what I love.  I would have spent all day with this ram had the light not got bright and harsh.  I hate bluebird sunny days while shooting pictures!   :bash:

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/Alberta%20Bighorn.jpg)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Hornseeker on October 22, 2009, 08:46:38 PM
wow... very nice Shawn!!!
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: elkaholic123 on October 22, 2009, 09:52:53 PM
Shawn, I spent 10 days in the Purcell Wilderness conservancy hunting elk and deer
so I know how beautiful it is up there! :)
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 22, 2009, 10:22:33 PM
What a wussy sheep that is.  Your 7 years old and never bonked a head yet?  Come on, chip off them pretty lamb tips wussy!   Makes you wonder what's around that he doesn't think he can even challenge...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: Tom Reichner on October 23, 2009, 08:07:13 AM


Me personally, I am ok with photo manipulation to a point.  I like HDR, but like to keep it as close to real or what I saw than to really HDR the heck out of it.  I think a light HDR is actually closer to the original scene than taking a shot with a small dynamic range camera.  Your eye has more dynamic range than a camera so why can't your images reflect that?  Sure, it may not look real in terms of what you are use to with photography.  But if it looks more like the scene that you shot why is that wrong?
 
 I'll go as far as I need to get the scene back to what it looked like when I took the photo.  If that means dropping the exposure 2 stops because I messed up on the exposure than so be it.  
What a great point!  My goal with processing wildlife images is to make the photo look as close to what I saw as possible.  Sounds so basic, but it's much easier said than done.  Cameras just aren't anywhere near as good as our eyes.  Our eyes see things so well, even when the light is brutally harsh, or exceptionally dim.  Cameras really struggle to capture things accurately in these conditions, so processing can help to make the image a bit more like the real thing.
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 23, 2009, 08:48:12 AM
shawn,
I was thinking about adding one of your pictures to my phones wallpaper but wanted to ask you first. Is that ok with you?
Title: Re: Canada Revealed
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 23, 2009, 09:00:57 AM
No problem.  Have at it. 
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