Post by: PA BEN on September 27, 2009, 06:38:56 PM
Post by: ecnclan on September 27, 2009, 08:08:34 PM
Post by: demontang on September 27, 2009, 09:04:54 PM
Post by: follow maggie on September 27, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
Post by: JoeVon on September 27, 2009, 09:49:35 PM
http://www.butchsboreshine.com/butchs-bore-shine.php
Post by: Jamieb on September 27, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
Post by: JoeVon on September 27, 2009, 10:38:25 PM
and (ALWAYS) with a bore guide.
I agree, boreguides are a GOOD thing!
Post by: Jamieb on September 27, 2009, 10:58:22 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 27, 2009, 10:59:52 PM
-Steve
Post by: PA BEN on September 28, 2009, 05:40:17 AM
Post by: Jamieb on September 28, 2009, 06:29:40 AM
Post by: kitsap on September 28, 2009, 07:44:01 AM
This is in particular true with new factory barrels or barrels that have been heavily copper fouled.
Both are available from Brownells http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=bore+paste/t=P/ksubmit=y/Products/All/search=bore_paste (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=bore+paste/t=P/ksubmit=y/Products/All/search=bore_paste)
You still need to get to a clean white patch with solvent after the bore paste and a bore guide is essential. Butch's Bore Shine works well.
DougF
Post by: batch on September 30, 2009, 06:58:44 PM
I prefer Butch's Boreshine, always had good results with it!
http://www.butchsboreshine.com/butchs-bore-shine.php
Post by: bow-n-head on September 30, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on September 30, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
Dewey Rod (X2 - one with a jag the other with a copper bore brush.)
Copper bore brush ~ saturated in Hoppe's 9 to clean out the bulk of power fouling in the barrel.
Jag ~ several patches through using a new patch each time.
Copper bore brush ~ saturated in Sweets, and slowly push through the bore several times and wait about five minutes ~ don't let the brush go completely through the end of the barrel (gravity drops the rod to the barrel if you push the brush completely through and more wear can result at the 6 o'clock position of the crown.) Spray copper brush with denatured alcohol to neutralize the Sweets.
Jag ~ several patches through using a new patch each time.
Jag ~ Hoppe's 9 with a patch to clean out Sweet's continue with a few patches until clean.
To check for copper in the bore; push a clean patch to about an inch from the end of the barrel and take it out into the sunlight and look down the barrel at the patch.
I've tried Butch's Boreshine and prefer Sweets. Though one does have to put up with the strong ammonia smell of the Sweets.
Semper Fi.
Post by: ICEMAN on September 30, 2009, 08:22:22 PM
Post by: runamuk on September 30, 2009, 09:30:44 PM
Post by: addicted on October 01, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
I found the otis system to be great for the feild but lacking for an at home full shebang. I just got a dewey rod recently and i'm enjoying the efficiency
Post by: Dadbear on October 01, 2009, 10:46:09 AM
Post by: littletoes on October 04, 2009, 06:15:17 PM
First off, lets get things started right, don't EVER mix Sweets with Shooter's Choice, there was a HUGE warning on that years ago.....and 'ya know what? If it ain't safe to use with Shooter's Choice, I sure ain't-a-gonna use it with anything else! If you've already bought a bottle, give it to somebody you don't like......
#2 if you don't use a bore guide, throw your rifle away, or at least stop cleaning your barrel, 'cause your going to ruin it.
#3 if your copper fouling is horable, you either have a very rough barrel like what Ruger uses, or your shooting X-bullets, either way it'll take elbow grease to get it out, and some Bore Shine, then some Bore Brite, OH, and LOTS of patience.
I should have made patience #1 on the list. More barrels are ruined by folks NOT using barrel guides, and trying to win some kind of race with the cleaning rod. GO SLOW.
Bore Guide
Shooter's Choice cleaning solvent
Gun Rest where barrel is angled down, to prevent solvent from entering action of rifle
Dewey's Cleaning Rod w/Jag
The correct patches to match barrel diameter
Rags to wipe down cleaning rod
Phosphous Bronse cleaning brushes with brass wire center
Some type of scope coover to prevent solvent from getting on your scope lens
Lets start by placing your rifle in the bags or rest, inserting your bore guide, then with the propber brush, whetted with the shooters choice solvent, run into your barrel until the brush protrudes all the way out, then bring it back till it comes all the way out-THAT IS ONCE, do this 10 more times.
If you have the time let it set for a bit while you do something else, let the solvent do its job, if not proceed with the next step by removing the brush and installing the jag/patch and running it through the bore. When it comes out the other side, discard the old patch, pull the rod out slowly (no dmage to the crown here), and repatch with a new/clean patch. Never reuse a patch, your rifle is worth a new one! And thy're cheap!
If your rifle is new, and not a custom barrel, then you can use the Bore Shine, then Bore Brite bought from Sinclair's. Just don't overdue that either, you'll wear your barrel out with too much "love".
Now, don't try and win any races with that cleaning rod, you'll cause it to "bend", and that will cause it to "rub" on your barrels innerds, giving it and uneven "wear" pattern and causing it to shoot funny.
Neither your brush nor your jag/patch combo should fit so dang tight that you have to "shove", if its that tight, see above about wearing your rifles innerds out.
Good Luck, I didn't want to go into too sickening detail here,
lt