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Title: hey you, on the green
Post by: let.it.fly on September 29, 2009, 08:55:48 AM: this is a warning to those who love to through buzz bombs and just rip them through the river hoping to snap pinks. keeping fish that you have snagged is illegal and i will be there with my video cammera documenting your activities. last night i was there and i watch a couple guys doing this. one guy cought 10+ fish doing this and kept all of them. the police showed up to check for licences and this guy bolts(along with a few others who didnt bother to take there fish with them. there was probly 20 illegaly caught fish left on the bank when the cops showed up). i will be taking licence plate numbers and filming, you are poaching and i will expose you. ( i'm sure its noone on this site, but i would suggest keeping an eye out.) remember the wdfw rewards you for turning in poachers.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: jackelope on September 29, 2009, 08:59:50 AM: I commend you for doing what you're doing, but i'm curious...how does the wdfw reward you for turning in fish poachers?
be careful.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: JoshT on September 29, 2009, 09:00:50 AM: Good luck bro... I just about got thrown in the river on Saturday for mentioning that to the 50+ guys that were down there fishing. I guess when you fish in the ghetto, the regs don't apply.

PS... take a pistol.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: let.it.fly on September 29, 2009, 09:16:57 AM: yea, its pretty ghetto but the fishin is great... i do just fine without snaggin, i dont really understand the allure of purposely snagging fish
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: JoshT on September 29, 2009, 09:56:24 AM: If you know how to fish... the fishing in great. If you're a 2 time fellon out of parole, living in downtown Auburn, or a Russian who doesn't speak a lick of english, or running from the cops is an everyday occurance... then snagging fish isn't even a crime to you.

"No barking from the dog... no smog...
I'm on the bridge and I just snagged a pink hog...
I gotta say, today was a good day..."
~Ice Cube
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 29, 2009, 10:19:07 AM: It's funny you would come out with a warning like that then follow it up by saying "It's noone(spell check) on this site". You might try a different approach. Theres a way to be civil about posting on a public site.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: let.it.fly on September 29, 2009, 10:27:25 AM: Quote from: Skyvalhunter on September 29, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
It's funny you would come out with a warning like that then follow it up by saying "It's noone(spell check) on this site". You might try a different approach.
if you read the post you would see i asked for people to keep an eye out. and its funny that you would take offense to it, it definetly doesnt seem that you might be feeling guilty about something huh? and at the risk of sounding like a dick, i will take whatever approach i choose reguardless of how you might feel. thanks anyway.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: dbllunger on September 29, 2009, 10:27:53 AM: Rock on!!!!! and glad someone is turning these slugs in. As you know you can video tape from a long ways away and get all the detail the gamies need. They may not get them that day, but they will get them later as the same dirt bags usually fish the same area. Had a gamie who moved from the West side tell me that they could never write or even come close to catching all the illegal fishing on the coast rivers. Then I tried the Skagit for the first time about a month ago, and every single person I saw catch a fish did not write it down. We did not catch a fish in two days because at that time only the bait guys were catching them. I saw several guys catch over limit, and one guy who caught a limit then came back later in the day. The guy who came back was near us, and I told him that he already had his limit from the morning. He just mumbled, turned around and left. There were probably 6-8 fishermen visible to us, and easily four of them every day could have been ticketed. We called the gamies and told them what we saw and the area, and we were told that they will try but there were so many violators they could not just target one area. Based on what I saw and what I was told it sounds like there is not enough hours in a day or gamies to even come close to dealing with the problem.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 29, 2009, 02:09:50 PM: It is funny. The woman And I were walking long the carbon and almost everyone I saw fishing was snagging. She asked me why people kept ripping there poles back so I had to explain it to her. She did not like that one bit. I did see some people leaving with some nice kings thou.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: Austrian Hunter on September 29, 2009, 02:21:33 PM: Ok, it may sounds stupid, but what is sagging :dunno:
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: NWBREW on September 29, 2009, 02:48:37 PM: Quote from: let.it.fly on September 29, 2009, 08:55:48 AM
this is a warning to those who love to through buzz bombs and just rip them through the river hoping to snap pinks. keeping fish that you have snagged is illegal and i will be there with my video cammera documenting your activities. last night i was there and i watch a couple guys doing this. one guy cought 10+ fish doing this and kept all of them. the police showed up to check for licences and this guy bolts(along with a few others who didnt bother to take there fish with them. there was probly 20 illegaly caught fish left on the bank when the cops showed up). i will be taking licence plate numbers and filming, you are poaching and i will expose you. ( i'm sure its noone on this site, but i would suggest keeping an eye out.) remember the wdfw rewards you for turning in poachers.

Just wondering why you post a warning to those who are snagging on this website and then follow it up with ...I'm sure its none on this site :dunno: I too have seen people poaching and I too have turned them in. And I have yet to see anykind of "reward" for turning in a fishing poacher. I agree with you about poachers but I also agree with skyvalhunter about some maybe taking it the wrong way. And I do not feel "guilty" about anything.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: NWBREW on September 29, 2009, 02:52:59 PM: Quote from: Austrian Hunter on September 29, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Ok, it may sounds stupid, but what is sagging :dunno:

Snagging fish is just what it implies. Legal fish are caught in the mouth. Snagging is when your hooks bump a fish and you intentionally try to snag that fish with your hook....tail, back, belly, fins. That is illegal
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: FishOrDie on September 29, 2009, 03:15:10 PM: Quote from: let.it.fly on September 29, 2009, 08:55:48 AM
this is a warning to those who love to through buzz bombs and just rip them through the river hoping to snap pinks. keeping fish that you have snagged is illegal and i will be there with my video cammera documenting your activities. last night i was there and i watch a couple guys doing this. one guy cought 10+ fish doing this and kept all of them. the police showed up to check for licences and this guy bolts(along with a few others who didnt bother to take there fish with them. there was probly 20 illegaly caught fish left on the bank when the cops showed up). i will be taking licence plate numbers and filming, you are poaching and i will expose you. ( i'm sure its noone on this site, but i would suggest keeping an eye out.) remember the wdfw rewards you for turning in poachers.

This is funny..... You guys bitch and complain about indians gillnetting and snagging but you resort to "Snitching" on your brothers and sisters of this state. It's pathetic that "WA State" is out to make money so aggresively like this. Have you seen the penalties?

The problem lies with the WDFW who make such ridiculous rules. Sportsmen don't even put a 10% dent into the catch of salmon in this state, but yet get blamed for 90% of the problem with the dwindling stocks.

Our governor and legislature can make backroom deals with special interests and disregard that they work for us the people but you want to worry about a few salmon? I'm here to say that you are wrong, that those salmon that these unfortunate people who snag is not the problem. The only thing "YOU" are doing is enriching the state's coffers, and supporting BS policies.

Every biologist I have ever talked with has stressed that we don't even account for 10% of the take. And by the fact that we don't take our
50% the indians want to take our share, and you want to help them? 40% more to the indians? Are you kidding me?

I have asked if we don't get our 50% why can't they make more liberal limits only to be told that their hands are tied. I say BULL SHlT

So you go ahead and help the morons of this state put our hard earned money and taxes into the coffers of special interests, under the guise of "Social Services" into the general fund.

So that we can get programs for the illegals, along with more social services.

I was at the mouth of the Green River/Duwamish mouth and what I saw was such a waste, by your beloved indian morons, but hey you can't turn them in cause WDFW don't wanna do anything about them wasting fish, or as they put it "They don't wan't to stick their hands in the hornets nest" They said call the tribe. Yeah right.......

They can net all day and night and if they don't pull their nets and the salmon carcasses rot then oh well?
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: NWBREW on September 29, 2009, 04:08:36 PM: If we bitch about indians snagging why would we not bitch about anyone else snagging? What is the difference if a guy shoots a trophy elk out of season or poaches 4 deer? :dunno: Should we turn a blind eye to that as well. :dunno: I DON'T THINK SO. If you turn him in are you still considered a "snitch". If so then that is your opinion. Big game, fish, birds or small game...it doesn't matter a poacher is a poacher. We sportsmen must stick together as a group. Fishermen, bowhunters, muzzy or rifle...together we have a stronger voice. I myself will turn in any poacher or acts of poaching I see. If that makes me a "snitch" .....so be it ...I'm guilty. This just my opinion. And what was up with that comment about "YOUR beloved indian morons"? Shoudn't that be " OUR beloved indian morons" or do you live in a different state? Again...just my opinion.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: klickriverchromer on September 29, 2009, 07:14:10 PM: I think this post has gotten a little overboard :boxin:
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: let.it.fly on September 30, 2009, 07:23:23 AM: poaching is poaching. regardless of the specifics. and for the few of you telling me to go about it a different way, say i used the term "warning" i have this for you... http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,34067.0.html . the person who posted this used "warning to all goats" and everyone knows that goats don't live in areas with enternet access, duh. unless a venturesome goat makes a foray into a wifi area I'm sure that warning doesn't apply to anyone on this site either. so again i say, I'm not here to please everyone and i didn't fight in Iraq so i could come back and tip toe my way around an on-line forum hopeing not to hurt anyones feeling, especially a forum that discusses topics the people so obviously feel passionate about.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: NWBREW on September 30, 2009, 08:41:44 AM: I believe the Warning to all goats was in fun. And I would like to add this.....let.it.fly..THANK YOU for your sevice in the armed forces. :rockin: It is because of men and women like you serving for this country that gives us the freedom to write or say whatever we choose.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: bearhunter59 on October 01, 2009, 04:07:35 PM: who did you call, let it fly? I know one of the game officers in the local area is hot to catch anyone on the green anytime. Drop me a pm, and I'll give you her cellphone number. Call her and tell her exactly where your at and what's happening, and I beleive she will hightail it over to you.

When you call 911, tell them you need WSP dispatch because you have a fishing violation in progress. WDFW is dispatched by WSP. Give them your cell number, if you have one, so they can contact you right away and let you know if they are on their way and want you to wait.

Also, you should probably try to be as NON-Confrontational as possible while filming the violations. I realize a big strong Iraqi war vet like you isn't afraid of anyone or anything, but there is no sense in getting into a scuffle or something and ending up in jail over these type of violations...no matter how mad you are over it.

If you could film them without them realizing what you are doing, and contact the WDFW without letting the violators know your calling the gamies, the WDFW would probably have a better chance of catching the violators in the act.

Another thing, film all the license plates before you walk down to the river, that way if anyone runs and leaves in their car before the gamies can get them, you will at least still have a plate number that they can run and check against valid fishing licenses.

I know most of the gamies have an email address that you can send the video and pictures too. I just did this a couple of weeks ago with some yahoos I caught driving in non-motorized vehicle area. Sent the pics and video to one of the gamies, and he wrote 4 trespass citations from the video. With face shots of the drivers, and good film of the plates as the vehicles are coming up the road...it was hard to deny it was them.

Also, I only live a couple of minutes from the Hwy 18 bridges over the green river, so give me a call sometime and maybe we could get down there together...one of us could stay up by the cars and film, and the other could go down and film along the river. Then we get them in the act down at the river, and get them in the act up at their cars hiding the fish or whatever...
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: let.it.fly on October 02, 2009, 07:28:06 AM: PM'D YA BEAR. i was down there yesterday. there wasnt much going on, there where two guys snaggin. im not sure but there was a guy next to my fiance and i, he has a pistol and hand cuffs but was in civilian clothes. i asked him if he was an officer, he kinda hesitated then said no. lol. the authorities are definetly in there. but i will be going down there this weekend, the silvers should be coming in soon so i'm thinking that should lure a whole new batch of DB's. we'll see
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: JoshT on October 02, 2009, 04:13:05 PM: You were missing them today down at Issac Evans Park... the snaggers were out in full force. I informed a couple of guys that keeping snagged fish was against the law... but I can't speak Russian, so I think it was over their heads.
Title: Re: hey you, on the green
Post by: alanger on October 03, 2009, 05:36:47 AM: Quote from: NWBREW on September 29, 2009, 04:08:36 PM
If we bitch about indians snagging why would we not bitch about anyone else snagging? What is the difference if a guy shoots a trophy elk out of season or poaches 4 deer? :dunno: Should we turn a blind eye to that as well. :dunno: I DON'T THINK SO. If you turn him in are you still considered a "snitch". If so then that is your opinion. Big game, fish, birds or small game...it doesn't matter a poacher is a poacher. We sportsmen must stick together as a group. Fishermen, bowhunters, muzzy or rifle...together we have a stronger voice. I myself will turn in any poacher or acts of poaching I see. If that makes me a "snitch" .....so be it ...I'm guilty. This just my opinion. And what was up with that comment about "YOUR beloved indian morons"? Shoudn't that be " OUR beloved indian morons" or do you live in a different state? Again...just my opinion.

A poacher is a poacher.