Post by: KimberRich on October 05, 2009, 01:59:15 PM
I'm going Leupold for sure so no debate there and in a 10x42 and would like to go camo if I buy the Mojave or Cascade.
Cascade about $340
Mojave about $390
Pinnacle about $500
The Cascase and Mojave are very similar in every aspect except the frame design as the Mojave have the open bridge design.
The pinnacle are similar but have the eye cups and aren't offered in Camo.
Right now I'm thinking Mojave. Anyone got any experience or thoughts?
Thanks!
Post by: thinkingman on October 05, 2009, 02:31:03 PM
Post by: KimberRich on October 05, 2009, 02:36:27 PM
definitely Pinnacle
Ok... Thanks
But why??
Looking through them they appear to be as clear and crisp as the others.
Post by: KillBilly on October 05, 2009, 02:44:16 PM
Post by: KimberRich on October 05, 2009, 03:09:04 PM
Go with the ZEN ED2's they are as good or better than the Leupolds. We have a sponsor here and you get a discount also. I have never touched better glass than the Zen ED's at least give them a look over. Charles may ebven have a loaner pair to let you try.
What'e their warranty?? Lifetime?? They pay the shipping if there is an issue?? What's the cost of a set of 10x42's?
I don't want to turn this into a thread with 30 people chiming in with their opinions on Bino's. I'm a die hard Leupold guy. Never had one issue with all my scopes, spotting scopes, binoculars, or anything else. My Dad hunts with leupold, his Dad hunted with it and if I have anything to say about it my kid will also. Their product has never failed me and having confidence in yourself and gear is more important than having a $5000 rifle and $1000 scope. IMO.
Post by: coop2424 on October 05, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
http://www.zen-ray.com/store/
Post by: firefighter4607 on October 05, 2009, 03:41:36 PM
Post by: cully on October 05, 2009, 04:56:01 PM
Post by: G.R.K on October 05, 2009, 10:39:20 PM
Ok so I'm buying new optics this week and can't decide..Flip a coin mojave/cascade.pinncales are a waste of money. :twocents:
I'm going Leupold for sure so no debate there and in a 10x42 and would like to go camo if I buy the Mojave or Cascade.
Cascade about $340
Mojave about $390
Pinnacle about $500
The Cascase and Mojave are very similar in every aspect except the frame design as the Mojave have the open bridge design.
The pinnacle are similar but have the eye cups and aren't offered in Camo.
Right now I'm thinking Mojave. Anyone got any experience or thoughts?
Thanks!
Post by: ICEMAN on October 06, 2009, 05:38:12 AM
Post by: markts on October 06, 2009, 05:56:25 AM
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Flip a coin mojave/cascade.pinncales are a waste of money. :twocents:
[/quote] Gotta love a comment like this, type and run :chuckle: Mark
Post by: ing on October 06, 2009, 06:52:50 AM
Post by: KimberRich on October 06, 2009, 10:16:22 AM
I currently have the leupold pinnacles 10x42 and got them for 300 from cabelas. I first had the mojave but did not care for the open bridge for the money I spent. As of right now I have been using the Pinnacles for a couple months and love them. I did look through a pair of the Zen Ray's last week and for the price I do not think you can get a better glass. I would of went for them if I did not get such a deal on the pinnacles. I actually think I will probably by a pair of zen ray's for a backup piece of glass in the future.
http://www.zen-ray.com/store/
If I could get a set of Pinnacles for $300 there wouldn't be a debate. But.. Since I apparently missed the sale someone was having I would be paying $500 for them.
I appreciate everyone telling me how great these Zen bino's are but I have a hard time spending $500 on a product line that I've never heard of. The warranty looks good and they may be great optics but Leupold has a good history spanning back may decades and I know what I'm getting with them.
Post by: G.R.K on October 06, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
Waste of money? Ok GRK, how about backing up your statement.You spend more money on pinnacles and you get the same glass as the mojaves/cascades.Gold Rings are a step up,but not the pinnacles. :twocents: KimberRich get the mojaves they are good deal for the price.
Post by: cully on October 07, 2009, 08:45:48 AM
Post by: cully on October 07, 2009, 08:53:07 AM
Post by: KimberRich on October 07, 2009, 09:17:15 AM
That's not true, at least when I bought mine. The cascades and I assume the mojaves as well are made in China. Pinnacles are Japanese ... big difference! Gold rings? Maybe Japanese glass as well?
This is correct. Either way they are made out of this country which I don't like. The cascades and majove's are the same minus the frame. Pinnacles have different coating and eye cups.
Keep the posts coming!!! I'm still up in the air.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 07, 2009, 09:23:49 AM
If I lost my Nikon Monarch 8x42 ATBs, I'd immediately go out and either buy those or the ZEN ED2s.
Post by: thinkingman on October 07, 2009, 10:28:13 AM
If you are going to stay with Leupold, you will want to get the highest quality glass, coatings and prisms they offer.definitely Pinnacle
Ok... Thanks
But why??
Looking through them they appear to be as clear and crisp as the others.
Pinnacles will outperform the Cascades and Mojaves in lower light conditions and be clearer for spotting game.
You definitely need to move up-market.
Post by: KimberRich on October 08, 2009, 08:49:25 AM
If you are going to stay with Leupold, you will want to get the highest quality glass, coatings and prisms they offer.definitely Pinnacle
Ok... Thanks
But why??
Looking through them they appear to be as clear and crisp as the others.
Pinnacles will outperform the Cascades and Mojaves in lower light conditions and be clearer for spotting game.
You definitely need to move up-market.
Well I can't afford the highest quality stuff they have so that's why I was debating between these three.
I looked through all three sets and can not tell the difference. If there was any type of difference I would spring for the Pinnacles. Maybe I don't have a trained eye or ?? Looking at the specs for low light transmision and such the Pinnacles are so very slightly better. Like 1.5%. So can't justify spending the extra $140.
I ordered the Mojave's in a 10x42 in the Camo finish. Found them for $378 with no tax and free shipping. Can't wait to use them next weekend!
Thanks everyone for the comments and thoughts.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 08, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
Please post a review.
Post by: S.O.B on October 09, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Well I can't afford the highest quality stuff they have so that's why I was debating between these three.
I looked through all three sets and can not tell the difference. If there was any type of difference I would spring for the Pinnacles. Maybe I don't have a trained eye or ?? Looking at the specs for low light transmision and such the Pinnacles are so very slightly better. Like 1.5%. So can't justify spending the extra $140.
I ordered the Mojave's in a 10x42 in the Camo finish. Found them for $378 with no tax and free shipping. Can't wait to use them next weekend!
Thanks everyone for the comments and thoughts.
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IMHO you the right choise enjoy and good luck this season.
Post by: ICEMAN on October 09, 2009, 06:40:34 PM
If I lost my Nikon Monarch 8x42 ATBs, I'd immediately go out and either buy those or the ZEN ED2s.
Last night I picked up a pair of these: Nikon Monarch 10x42 ATB's in camo. Did so after comparing a bunch in the price range..... I used a cabelas coupon for 20% off, plus found that Nikon is offering a $50rebate till 10/31/2009.
Nikon 10x42 Monarch ATB in camo
Nikon $309.99
Tax 26.04
Total $336.03
Coupon -$60.00
Due $276.03
Rebate -$50.00
Total $226.03
Not bad if you ask me.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 11, 2009, 08:27:40 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 12, 2009, 04:23:02 PM
Post by: spin05 on October 13, 2009, 04:31:07 AM
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 13, 2009, 05:43:49 AM
Post by: KimberRich on October 13, 2009, 11:54:20 AM
Was very happy to see them still sitting there when I got back!
They look great and are crystal clear. I'm happy with my decision so far and after I hunt with them next week I will be sure to post a full review of them.
Thanks again for everyones comments.