Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: coachcw on October 15, 2009, 04:50:40 PM
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Ok guys its getting close and I'm freaking out length , mass , tips . if any one could post ram pics with scores it would be great , the more i can see the beter of I'll be in the field . i think they all will look good at bow range .thanks Coach
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Ive seen great pics posted here by pope and bone I think. None include scores though. Good luck with ur tag.
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There are a hundred rams there that you would pull the trigger on but shouldn't. Be calm. Lots of sheep, lots of rams. Its not that hard. Look at the pics that Norse just posted and the ones on teh 410 slide link. Those are standing on the highway saying shoot me. Not the kind of hunt you want and I know you are capable of. Wait until you see one that you think is unreal. They are starting to rut so will be very visible soon.
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I think we did a thread like that already Coach...?
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Plenty in the photography secton Coach. ;)
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Pass......pass.......pass........PUT THE BOW DOWN AND SHOOT YOU FOOL!!!!! :chuckle:
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Like I said....
Wait until you see one that you think is unreal.
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totally agree with ya phool....#4 is a nice ram!
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Couple more for you Coach
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Thanks guys, I know theres other posts on this . i just wanted freash input and photos, instead of archives this way everyone could get a good look at some rams . No doubt you gentleman have allready thaught me more than I could have hoped for. A freash post and talk on this can only help. I see a lot of the same photos of other animals on other posts , its ok . Just want to share my hunt with all our enthusiastic members . I gotta say I can hardly work these days I really hope to due huntwa proud. I promise that I wont boast or throw any garranty out there about a record archery ram , but With all your help my chances go way up. Sincerly Coach.
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Has anyone seen a ram with a hurt leg out there ? I'm gonna call him limpy , I guess he's a toad .
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Fresh for you coach. Went out for about an hour....
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A little bigger, still not a shooter
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Though he was within bow range and in a damn good shooting position.
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Another pair
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SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFIN for .........He smelled it too and took off :)
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You'd have to tell me if you would shoot him or not
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another snapper
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I don't have a sheep tag but I would pass and keep looking for something like #4 in the other pic. You will never get the big one if you shoot the small one first......but that's just me....without a tag. :'(
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This one had a little more stuff......but wrong tag....
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Now this one would probably get an arrow
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remember that speech I gave last night about tunnel vision :chuckle:
Might have some trouble sneeking in on him :chuckle:
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Bone, have you been drawn for sheep yet?
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NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So there are words for girls like this. ;)
Hey coach...enough horn here?
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From Coach: if any one could post ram pics with scores it would be great
OK Coach, here is a good ram and a pic of the ewe he scored on earlier this year. He scored on another ewe too but I don't have a pic of her. I expect lambs in Nov or Dec. I hope this is what you were looking for. It is the best I can come up with right now. :chuckle:
Axle :chuckle:
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I think I'd shoot this one.
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Bone, your standards are slipping....why would you shoot that little guy???? :chuckle: Nice ram, shooter for sure.
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:chuckle: I'm not much better at sheep than I am antelope. ;)
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Her ass either smelled better than me, or looked better than me, but I couldn't get a head on shot for pope to judge him for you. :(
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They were really on the move.... This guy had someplace he needed to be
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Her ass either smelled better than me, or looked better than me, but I couldn't get a head on shot for pope to judge him for you. :(
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Ok Coach, what do you score this one at? Here is what I guess him at...
34+34, 14+14, 13+13, 10+10, 8+8 = 158"
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I thaught he was a little shy too, would hold off on those fisrt week, awsome photos bone , thanks
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I think I had him at the 160 mark, I basically thought the same but put him at 36 instead of 34. I honestly wouldn't make a good trophy sheep hunter as I'd have dumped him and been damn happy about it. Course my standards might be a hair lower with a longbow.
Apparantly the Governors tag fellow is interested in him. :chuckle: Nice to meet you Wabonehuntr Sr. :)
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What little mass he has he holds but the bases aren't that big. He might be a tad longer and a mid 160 ram but that's how I called it. He isn't over 14.5 on the bases.
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I agree. I wouldn't give him more than 14 at the bases, but he did hold well throughout. (WHICH) happens to be a characteristic i like. Q ram scores higher, but I actually like how this one holds his mass throughout versus the huge bases.....
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Sigh..
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thanks for your opinions guys , class is definately in session, can either one of you post a 170 ram next too a 160 ram . that would rock . bows papered today perfict hole , tomorrow pins get checked, looks like a pineaple express out there hope the wind dies down .
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Gee, I'll see what I can do. :chuckle:
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Get out of my way
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Well the little guy was persistent and managed to get in first.
"Not safe sex"
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YES he got it done, I'll spare the pics. Then big Daddy caught up and he took over 60 seconds later....
Whose your Daddy?
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What does a ram think when he looks up at country like this. I know what I would be thinking
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I'm not sure what the ram in the back would score, but he's a shooter in my book. Any guesses on the score?
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I dont know where that gigantic ram is that Phool put up, but if he's in your unit... Kill Him... :drool:
Sorry Doug, but you haven't posted one ram yet that would be a shooter over here!! However...that one is nice....
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I dont know rams all that well either, but I'd think this guy would go 180ish... would he?
This one is BIG... 200+
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This one is also large....
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IF you see either of these (you wont...they are in MT) SHOOT!
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Good Luck Coach!!!
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Thats sorta like comparing blacktails to muleys. OH that'll piss someone off. :chuckle: Need to get over there this fall to shoot. Hope I end up with the time
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Your going to ruin coach with these huge rocky ram pictures...lol.
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Ok, score this ram and tell me if you would shoot... It's a WA cali ram which will help you with your mass measurements.
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Don't shoot. I would say 150's. He is too young to shoot plus he has great genes.
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plus he has great genes
kind of a hard sell in this state since there is only a 1% chance that even a family member may be able to hunt again.
Sure would be nice to see him in about 2 years though.
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Profile pic? Its hard to tell length that way, but he definitely flares good and isn't a tight curl... Definitely young... I dont know...I have no idea on those "little guys"...hehehe... its easier for me to separate the 175-200 rams! :0)
Seriously... I am not a ram scorer at all... I'd have to see what other types of rams the area offered before I could decide if that one was a shooter...
Is that ram Phool posted a CA?
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that ram in 43 looked good to me 165 ish. the last one in #56 I thaught was a 145 is ram pope , I thaught the bases were like 13, then 12, 10, 8, 32 length x2 = maybe 150 how close am I. killer shots bone thanks.
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Is that sheep in 52 a wa ram?
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Is that sheep in 52 a wa ram?
No.
The ram in #56 is probably a 150 or so ram. I think the bases are more like 14" though coach. Length is probably 30"... Not a shooter but a great future ram.
Hornseaker, the ram Phool posted is a cali ram. Want 2 other looks at him?
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What do you guys think he scores??? What a beaut.
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I think he scores 184
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Thats the one that was road kill right?
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how could that ram not be broomed? , it seems al; the other calis are at that age or is he just solitare. He is one sweet ram I hope he wasn't road kill .
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He's alive. He's hanging with one that might be 2 inches bigger than he is. :chuckle: The one that was killed was scored at 179.
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Bigger??
Whats the biggest Cali's score????
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I'd personally shoot this one in his bed. Talk about broomed back. I watched him chip his horns in the pouring rain this morning. VERY COOL
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This one got smucked.........
He officially scored 179.
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Thats the one that was road kill right?
No, he is still alive ;)
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The chipper
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Comfy..................
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COMFY II
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Are you looking at me..........
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What little mass he has he holds but the bases aren't that big. He might be a tad longer and a mid 160 ram but that's how I called it. He isn't over 14.5 on the bases.
I agree with Pope, looks like a 160 ram to me.
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what kinda mass measurements do you guys think # 77 has?
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boys club.....
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Wishin he'd leave the chick just for a second....
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ok bone your the men for sure. I just checked my tag again to make sure this isn't a dream , two weeks , there's gonna be a lack of sleep in the up comming days. I keep thinking dont hurt yourself or dont pick that up , what the hell I'll crawl if I have too.
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what kinda mass measurements do you guys think # 77 has?
14 to start with, 12, 9 and then 5 or 6. He isn't symetrical so it depends on the side.
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I held those horns the other day. They really are thet big. Sad thing is, he wasn't the biggest that got killed by a car.
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What a waste.....
Coach, you hear someone cough, RUN the other way.
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Pass......pass.......pass........PUT THE BOW DOWN AND SHOOT YOU FOOL!!!!! :chuckle:
yeah you would be dumb to pass the one on the right
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Blew this one this morning compliments of my cough. Was watching two others "sneaking" up on them through the brush, coughing fit happened as I emerged and this one was facing me at some water. CRAP
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some mass....hadn't seen this one before
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this guy was a little excited but was soon rejected and replaced by the close up ram above...
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A LONG WAYS away.
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Sorry boys, class is in session, she is mine....
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bone do you work ? , thats sweet that ram looks good to me , to bad he's in the canyon . heck the way they seem to be rutting i wonder if they will still be going in nov .
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Coach the sheep in the pic at the end of the first page of posts by DDK is 4-5yr old ram and would most likely score between 153-157 pts BC
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Her ass either smelled better than me, or looked better than me, but I couldn't get a head on shot for pope to judge him for you. :(
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This sheep has pretty good drop which means decent length. Also hold his mass out into Q4. This ram will score around 170-175 pts BC
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Pass......pass.......pass........PUT THE BOW DOWN AND SHOOT YOU FOOL!!!!! :chuckle:
The ram on the right is a really nice sheep. He looks like he has small bases but alot of times with sheep that carry this much mass out through Q3 and Q4. It's an intersting picture b/c the ram second from right has what are called "diverging" horns and the ram on the right has "converging" horns. The ram on the right looks much bigger but a lot of times rams with diverging horns score deceptively well...tough to judge.
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thnaks , I really like tight rams like #43 what do you think he scores.
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Couple more for you to look at coach ;) Click on the pic for the sharpest image.
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wow that last ram is nice love that curl
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I think thats Mr. Big isn't Rob? He is just in a class by himself.
Yeah I work Coach, but I've had the Swine flu and they won't let me return to work because I still have a fever. Thank God for SICK leave. This bugs been a biotch. I hope I have enough steam to help Rose with her elk. I still sound like I am about ready to die.
Want to clear a room, walk in with a mask on and cough like I do. :chuckle:
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Looks like thats about it coach. I'm going back to work, and there were two tribal hunting parties working the rams I was filming.
Two groups of them working the same ram. Hopefully they don't get yours.
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wow that last ram is nice love that curl
Yeah sweet curl...also notice how you can see the back (left) horn and how low the horn drops relative to the jaw line. Definite no brainer shooter. I have a real hard time judging sheep over 170 but I would say he has got to score between 178-182 pts maybe a little better.
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stickin with 184
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I've seen him in person a few times. 184-186 solid. If he's alive right now he breaks the 186 world record mark.
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I've been contemplating how much he would grow in a season
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About 1".
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for what book? not recognized in most books, inferior sheep
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I think thats Mr. Big isn't Rob?
Sure is Bone, O'l Brown Butt. Pope and I are making plans to go find him again, our trigger fingers are itching.
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kinda like washington moose right ? , wash state big game records book has the cali reconized the archery record is 164 7/8.
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You could SPANK that. That would be COOL!
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So how old is this ram..................any measurements?
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8.5yrs 33",13"13",11",7"= 154"
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Thanks. I did good on him.
I guessed 8 and 155
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for what book? not recognized in most books, inferior sheep
SCI and the state records. Inferior sheep? :chuckle:
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On his 7th year. 34, 14, 13, 9, 6 = 152
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To me the cali is,written about on the web about them, done some research on what the hell this sheep actually is. Who cares about this state record book here, some independant from OR came up with an idea and just publishes it and they cannot even get that right lol, they are not recognized by P&Y or B&C , they are not sought after by anyone who is after a slam, they want a Rocky not a cali. SCI lol I will take a Rocky :chuckle: so easy to get people riled up on here :P
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great bunch of photos...really enjoyed looking at them all....good luck coach
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thanks bearpaw, I think shanes just sour after promissing a record moose, I'm not promissing anything just willing to give it hell . Shane where you been hidding ? lol.
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I'm really not trying to dig at you shane , It's just sheep are to me what moose is too you. I don't claim any expertese in judging them either , My concern is that I'll see what looks real good to me and end up shooting the wrong ram . I really have appreciated all the help the members of the forum have given me , no doubt I've learned more than I could have ever expected. thanks again guys .Coach
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I assume he thinks they suck so bad he doesn't apply for them. GOing to be pretty funny when he draws the tag in two years and has to eat even more crow. He should be pretty accustomed to the taste by now.
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To me the cali is,written about on the web about them, done some research on what the hell this sheep actually is. Who cares about this state record book here, some independant from OR came up with an idea and just publishes it and they cannot even get that right lol, they are not recognized by P&Y or B&C , they are not sought after by anyone who is after a slam, they want a Rocky not a cali. SCI lol I will take a Rocky :chuckle: so easy to get people riled up on here :P
Your just "riled up" Shane because people called your BS on your 140 class moose. I could care less about your opinion but maybe someone else can gain some knowledge about the issue...
B&C doesn't want to figure out what the boundary is with them as they overlap rocky sheep and have hibridized in a few areas. Therefore, someone could end up with a mostly rocky sheep and it might be in a cali area. See the problem? Also, transplants have varied where they have put both in various areas. It creates too much of an issue figuring out the boundary.
If you say the word slam then I think you mean Grand Slam. If you have ever been a member, like me, you would know that tons of people finish their slam with a cali sheep. It's all over their records and they refer to them as cali sheep. In fact, many memmbers try to get one of each: rocky, california, desert, dall, stone, and fannin. http://www.wildsheep.org/sheep/north_american.htm Once again, you tout something on the internet and don't think someone will call your BS. In fact, B&C is about the only organization that doesn't recognize the cali sheep and even they recognize they are a different subspecies but doesn't know how to vibe the problems I've listed above. This isn't a unique problem...benchleg blacktail, roosevelt elk in the cascades, etc. You know, they have had the same problems in Russia with the different sub-species of sheep there as well. There is overlap and it becomes difficult to recognize what is what.
Unless you plan on pulling the 1 Asotin tag, cali is all you're going to get around here.
Here is a whole sheep thread on guys wanting to finish their "North America 5 Slam" with a cali sheep and they are dying to get one...
http://forums.wildsheep.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1616055494/m/2611073472?r=595100362#595100362
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HEY POPE. Can you show me the pic of the sheep you said would be the world record if hes still alive please?
Good thread guys. Sheep are my favorite animal to drool over.
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HEY POPE. Can you show me the pic of the sheep you said would be the world record if hes still alive please?
Good thread guys. Sheep are my favorite animal to drool over.
Sure man. Inferior, right Shane... ;)
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I will keep trying to get drawn and I would shoot that sheep or even a smaller one need be, I don't care what subspecies it is. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get one in the record books.....But is that why I hunt...Nope. Nice pics guys
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Thank's
Pope well put, I think your passion is awsome . If I could choose You and Bone would be the next to draw . Thanks for clarifiying the whole Cali sub species dilema. I truely treasure my oppourtunity to hunt one and could careless what others think. Kinda like saying a 125 blacktail isn't worth shooting because he's not a 180inch muley. Coach
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Well I guess I missed whatever is causing the animosity towards SHANE WA? Regardless, it seems obvious to me he was just being sarcastic regarding Cali's. Maybe not?
coachcw, try not to concern yourself too much with score. You are not hunting in an area that has B&C rams, so a better measurement of success would be killing a good representative of that herd. The memories of this hunt will be the true trophy, and you will never forget it. Just don't shoot until you are comfortable with it being the ram you want and will love forever. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
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thanks , I'll truely be happy with an oppourtunity with a bow . a record would be Iceing on the cake , Just think three tags 6,000 aps. someone must want one huh. If you don't then don't apply.
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Well I guess I missed whatever is causing the animosity towards SHANE WA?
Maybe we aren't being fair. :dunno: Maybe we should just nuke all of this and stop the nonsense? I'm kind of biased on this because I followed the original thread where Shane started all this. He was just really rude and arrogant. Here were some of his quotes and maybe this will help bring the animosity into context:
Shane:
"I am in the 3 forks unit all of the time, you couldnt tag a big bull? give me a break.I see 2 or 3 50" bulls every time I am in there.The bull in the road I wouldnt even consider a shooter in that unit.Sounds like a lame hunter to me"
"Nope not to me, If I draw a tag here I will shoot a state record and hopefully a world record.A set of sheds found here on June 3 are on there way to be scored as the new world record sheds,they also found another set similiar but a little smaller.My buddy has a set that scored around 200". If it was down to the last 2 days I would shoot that bull.People see pics of moose harvested, most tag holders shoot the first bull they see or they do not scout enough to know what is running around here.I see monster bull moose around here all of the time,I know where a monster is right now in the huckleberry unit.I cant even begin to grasp the concept of hunting 30 days and couldnt shoot a big bull,all I have to say is WOW and what a disappointment for the hunter."
"Where do you guys live? West side of the state,that would explain it all.You guys act like moose hunting is hard.Another question have you ever hiked the mountains in the selkirk,49 and huckleberry? There isnt a trip to these mountains where i dont see big bulls.200 inches is being fair,if you want would you like his e-mail? maybe you could talk to him yourself.The sheds found this year are 240+ and I have seen them in person.Its ok to be jealous. "
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID38/38.html
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how doe's crow taste ?, ok I'm ready to get back to sheep , thanks for posting all the pics
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Quote from: provider on Today at 11:55:06 AM
Well I guess I missed whatever is causing the animosity towards SHANE WA?
Maybe we aren't being fair. Maybe we should just nuke all of this and stop the nonsense? I'm kind of biased on this because I followed the original thread where Shane started all this. He was just really rude and arrogant. Here were some of his quotes and maybe this will help bring the animosity into context:
Shane:
"I am in the 3 forks unit all of the time, you couldnt tag a big bull? give me a break.I see 2 or 3 50" bulls every time I am in there.The bull in the road I wouldnt even consider a shooter in that unit.Sounds like a lame hunter to me"
"Nope not to me, If I draw a tag here I will shoot a state record and hopefully a world record.A set of sheds found here on June 3 are on there way to be scored as the new world record sheds,they also found another set similiar but a little smaller.My buddy has a set that scored around 200". If it was down to the last 2 days I would shoot that bull.People see pics of moose harvested, most tag holders shoot the first bull they see or they do not scout enough to know what is running around here.I see monster bull moose around here all of the time,I know where a monster is right now in the huckleberry unit.I cant even begin to grasp the concept of hunting 30 days and couldnt shoot a big bull,all I have to say is WOW and what a disappointment for the hunter."
"Where do you guys live? West side of the state,that would explain it all.You guys act like moose hunting is hard.Another question have you ever hiked the mountains in the selkirk,49 and huckleberry? There isnt a trip to these mountains where i dont see big bulls.200 inches is being fair,if you want would you like his e-mail? maybe you could talk to him yourself.The sheds found this year are 240+ and I have seen them in person.Its ok to be jealous. "
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID38/38.html
Ok, I understand now. Those kind of comments would certainly do it!
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Its getting closer Coach. When is the date of your hunt?
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nov3 will be there on the 1st. I think i'll camp at the feed parking lot inless they kick me out.
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coach, I've got your number, I'll give you a call when I get back from Id. to see about hooking up with ya and doing some filming. Good luck.
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sounds good , have a good time in ID
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Coach,
You are the envy of every stinkin guy on this board.
You are going to have a once in a lifetime experience, and we all wish you the best !!!!!!!
Looking forward to your story and pics !
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thanks falcon, Trust me I know how privleged I am to have this tag, hope to do you all proud. talked to pope tonight he's over looking for rams this weekend , He's a stand up guy glad to have him on the team. one more week , time to wake up this isn't a dream.
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Just don't get near me. I have swine flu and kind of feel like crap. I started feeling a tad better this eve and headed over figuring I could be sick while sitting in my truck. I feel like crap again right now so I probably got out too early. :puke: Damn flu cost me my deer season... :(
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Dang Pope. Yep, that Swine Flu is a pain in the ole schedule. Like I said Coach, see someone cough RUN..........I'm two weeks into it and still not normal.
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Corey,
Just don't get caught up in the heat of the moment like I did on my Utah deer hunt. When you see a monster, double check to make sure it is the same one when it comes out of the obstructions. I fck'd up that way and didn't get that monster that I should have got after 12 years of applying. I should have taken the time to verify the same buck when he reappeared. You only have one crack at it. Have fun and good luck!
Rob
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Good luck coach....and have fun
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thanks for the support guys, pope too bad the only rams you saw were dinks , i'll give it hell . The single malt in my truck should help kick that swine flu if not change to brown bottle flu . I hope you feel better in time to come over and spot for me.bone maybe you need to stay in bed a few days instead of thromping around the canyon .
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Getting ready to shove off sunday morning any last suggestions?
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aim true and shoot the one you want
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Getting ready to shove off sunday morning any last suggestions?
Take lots of pics. When I got my ram my uncles digital camera wasn't saving pics. It was a good thing I had my little throw away or I would have none. That would have kind of sucked. Have fun and good luck. ;)
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Dont forget anything. ;)
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Coach,
You most likely will see plenty of rams. Take your time, get a good rest if possible, and make a great shot. I haven't kept up on all your posts, but a rangefinder can be a God send. If helped me a bunch in Alaska on my sheep hunt.
Cherish every moment of the hunt, take lots of pictures, and bring em back to the boys!
Best of Luck !
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getting a rest may be a problem for him i believe hes still planning to use his bow
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all ready to head out . I'll be solo till monday night . Starting to realize the dream , I hope to make the right choice in the field all your help in judging these cali's has been a god send , Coach out
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Look them over close and don't miss. Good luck man!
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You spot the one we are looking for tomorrow or Monday call me, I will pack up and camp out on the hill with you so we are there Tuesday morning when the sun comes up.
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here is a picture for you :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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hey carp I'll pass on that one though shes cute. I'm all set and the grocherys are loaded, I got a good talk'n to from pope and phool today if I shoot the wrong ram there gonna gang up on me. had to fix my slide out on the trailer today last minute stuff. I'll be scoping sheep tommorrow.
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I know their not what u'r aftr, but they are fun to look at. Missouri River Breaks rams.
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Man those critters are like big barrels with legs!
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Tomorrow is the big day. Go get em coach.
Klickman
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Talked to Coach today. He has found a couple 160 class so far but not the 170's. I will keep you informed on the progress.
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Could be blood on the ground by now!!! Good Luck Coach!
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i hope he knocks a big one down go coach!
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Those MT rams are UNREAL!
Good luck coach, can't wait to hear how it turns out for you.
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No blood on the ground as of 5 mins ago...
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I hope he finds his ram soon!
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Give him a week or two of pure enjoyment!
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Wish you were with him bone I can;t wait for the pictures. The coach has done the homework it;s going to happen.
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Give him a week or two of pure enjoyment!
I'm being selfish, I want to see pics and a story
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Got these pics from Coach earlier today. General consensus has him in the 163-164 range being conservative. The Cali record for archery in Washington is 164 7/8.
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So is he gonna try and kill that ram phool? Or do you guys think there are bigger ones up there?
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There are bigger ones in there, low 170 class. I think he was going to try and put a stock on him with archery gear. If he is okay with a mid 160 class then even if he pushes this one out, there will be plenty others in that class he can take with a rifle later. I'd pass on this one for now, first day and all, but its his tag and I'm behind him 100% whatever he decides. I'm loaded up and ready for the call to go help him get it out though.
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Nice to see a guy putting the time in and knows exactly what he wants. He will be rewarded.
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I'm loaded up and ready for the call to go help him get it out though.
The area he is hunting will be an all down hill pack. He'll have his sheep out, plugged and drunk by the time you get out of the city Phool. :chuckle:
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I dont know about that sheep being low 160's. Not the best picture but that thing has a ton of drop to the right horn...well below the jaw line. Lots of times their decievingly long when they are shaped like that. I would put that sheep in the upper 160's (167-169pts)
He should try and kill that thing if it wanders into a good spot for a stalk. With a sheeps senses generally you have to get within bow range about 4 times with a bow before you can close the deal.
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I agree AK. I'd try very hard to deflate that thing with my longbow and I would be as thrilled as any OIL hunter could be. He is in the upper percentile for trophy rams in that unit.
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He's a nice ram but there are two bigger ones on the mountain. For kicks, what are your individual measurements? I had it at 33, 14.5, 14, 12, 9. 165 total. With two rams in the 170's, I'd let him walk...?
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I had him about 2 inches longer so 169. I like his flare and mass.
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I think he was looking at this ram today...
Anyone got guesses for the score?
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More mass....less length :dunno: I like the other ram better. I suck at these guys.
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Man Im dreaming of an OIL tag!!!!!! ONE day!! coach get with it man and stay with the stick and string until the end!
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His score is 408, says so on his tag :chuckle:
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His score is 408, says so on his tag :chuckle:
boy coach shouldnt be passing on 400" rams
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i sure hope he does good and get a big boy i would have a hell of a time passin the ram in the first pictures i am not a expert at all but i have seen lots of ram pictures i would say mid 160 maybe touch 170 a great ram for sure
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He's a nice ram but there are two bigger ones on the mountain. For kicks, what are your individual measurements? I had it at 33, 14.5, 14, 12, 9. 165 total. With two rams in the 170's, I'd let him walk...?
I like your mass guestimates but I think you're underestimating the length. I have him more like 37 inches (at least on the left side) he carries his mass well which adds a lot of length.
With archery tackle I would have to try to take that ram. Sooooo much can happen when trying to kill a sheep with a bow. If it didnt happen that would be OK but you have to make best of your opportunities with a bow when you have them. Nice sheep regardless a real trophy for anyone with a bow. Go Coach!
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Sorry meant to give thoughts on measurements...37, 14.5, 13.5, 11.5, 9. 171 pts.
Hope he kills it so we can see who is closer...you're not allowed to go over.
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I'll go 164 Pope and knowing there are a couple 170+ rams in there I would pass as well, he has a month and with all the mid 160 rams running around out there, dropping one with a couple days to go shouldn't be a problem. :twocents:
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#408 dodged a bullet or should I say an arrow today. Coach can tell the rest of the story later.
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Shawn I say 159 and too broomed off to think about with this tag!!!
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Sorry meant to give thoughts on measurements...37, 14.5, 13.5, 11.5, 9. 171 pts.
Hope he kills it so we can see who is closer...you're not allowed to go over.
He just can't be 37" AK. I got a better image of him and maybe that will help out the scoring. If you put him up side by side with Andrew288's dad's ram that is 37 on one side and 34 on the other, they come from the same stock, the ram is about or slightly less than the 34" side. I could buy 34" but no larger. That would put him at 167 which I would buy. In my mind there is no way I can logically get that ram to score more than 170.
It's fun to debate it though. :chuckle:
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i think coach would laugh at us scoring sheep hopin he kills it to find out who was the closest to the right score :chuckle: man can wait to hear about the taged sheep arrow dodge :chuckle:
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So which is bigger 408 or the one we are scoring. Prsonally I'd shoot the one we were scoring before 408, but that is with just one camera angle. I'm not commenting in regards to Coaches choices, asking a serious question.
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Last night I told coach to shoot a ram that HE would be happy with and one that HE thinks looks good. Forget all this scoring *censored*. The biggest ram on the mountain isn't always the best looking. All of this scoring talk over the last 4 months has put alot of pressure on the poor guy to perform. It's easy for everyone to sit on their computers telling him what ram to shoot. He's the one hoofing it up and down that mountain. There is a reason that the tag is filled in 1.5 days. Most guys can't even get out of bed the second day.
This is just my opinion and is in no way directed at anyone in general. :twocents:
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Its indeed a good opinion. Having that deer tag last year, I shot the buck I wanted, not the one that would score the highest by any means, so know exactly what you mean. I didn't feel pressure to perform though, I think thats more of a cop out than anything. Just have a damn good time and enjoy that tag. You only get to do it once.
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INDEED!!!!!
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Elkstuffer I don't think anyone is putting pressure on him to shot the biggest one on the mountain by any means we are just having fun debating the pics sent through. BTW when I spoke to him HE wanted to hold out and try to find the largest one out there, I will be happy as heck when he shoots the one he wants no matter which one it is! :)
Oh and Shawn the one I was scoring at 159 is 408!
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Do you think the other one is bigger or smaller?
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By the way, I hold Coach in a WAY different light that that other **** can't think of a word worth printing. Talking score is fun and its cool he has goals and even if he shoots a dink I will be happy for him. He is not a smack talkin jerkwad. Lofty goals are fine, smack talkin is a good way to make yourself look like a fool. There is a huge differentiation between the two.
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I understand what you're saying M_ray. Last night at the shop I could tell that his head was spinning. He had seen probably 80% of the sheep in the unit. I was probaby out of line when I said we were putting pressure on him. My apologies if anyone took it wrong.
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Hopefully you steered him north to check the other %20. There were a couple big unmolested ones up there.
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I'm trying to get ahold of him. He said he was going up Meystre canyon today. I thought he should go up the next canyon to the east. I've been watching sheep in there all morning from the house. I think the pressure up top yesterday may have pushed them over one or two canyons. :dunno:
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How many tags are left? Is his the last one?
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Other than some yuppie hikers he has the mountain to himself!
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Other than Coach only the auction tag guy would be hunting in there, unless a tribe member decides to go out, and if I had the auction tag I wouldn't be hunting there anyway :twocents:
Like I said earlier I'm behind Coach 100% whatever he decides, there is nothing wrong sitting here hoping he tags a bigger one than what we have been scoring though. Having hunted with an OIL tag I can tell you it helps to have guys input their :twocents: and keep you focused on your own goals. Seeing all those animals you definately get a itchy trigger finger.
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Do you think the other one is bigger or smaller?
For the record I think the first one in the blurry pics is larger but not by much maybe 4-5 inches at best ... pretty much the same mass but longer IMO. :) I think he will find a larger one to take!
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If you look at the head on pic that ram flares out wider which will add a little to the length but what do I know it looks like a nice one and probably the average one in that unit but there are larger. I scouted this area a few years back with a friend that had the tag and this was the average in there ... if it came right down to it he can get one like this just about everyday out so no need to get itchy trigger with these guys.
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I thought that coach had said that the auction tag holder tagged out in the Tieton unit. Why he was hunting there I have no idea :twocents: The tribe usually doesn't tag out or even go out with there two Clemens tags until the snow brings them WAY down. There isn't a road that goes up the side of the hill. :chuckle: There was a bird hunter coming out of Meystre canyon at dark last night. He might have stirred them up pretty good if he did a bunch of shooting.
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He is looking at so many rams his head should be spinning. He knows he can kill a mid 160s ram anyday so there is nothing wrong with pulling back, being patient, and think about the one you want. Its a long season and we know there is a big one in there he hasn't seen. Take a few days and just soak it in. There is no hurry and you want to enjoy the hunt.
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elkstuffer i think you are right about the auction guy tagging out in the tieton unit, seems like i remember hearing that to. i think it is great to have all of us behind him i don't look at it as pressure i look as it as encouragement some of us might never have the chance that he has right now. and it sure shows that he has restaint from not busting one of the first 160's he saw and trying to do it with his bow. i don't know if i could pass some of those rams they are awsome trophy's to me and like said score does not amount to much when you harvest a animal that you really wanted. i have several book scoring animals, but i don't enter them in because, they are a trophy to me not by the " but the experience i had taking them and the pain and joy of the hunt. I can't stop lookin at the computer i have high anticipation of seeing a great ram no matter the score.
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I have heard a rumor there might be another ram down... :o
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pretty confident saying the auction(governors tag) guy is not tagged out.
not positive, but i don't believe so.
maybe the raffle tag guy?
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Raffle tag is done
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I have heard a rumor there might be another ram down... :o
Sweet, did he have a hitch in his giddyup?
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Yep.
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I'm surprised that you guys think there are rams that sized crawling all over this unit. I've seen A LOT of rams on this mountain and most of them aren't that big. :dunno: If there were, I'd sure think the record would be higher and the govenor tag guys wouldn't be mostly shooting 170 rams elsewhere.
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I don't think there are 170 rams all over that mountain. I've only seen one 170+ ram and 300shortmag's friend shot it. I have heard rumors of a limp ram that is supposed to go 170. There may be more than one 170 ram. Plus, a guide I know has been watching a 170 ram in Cleman for a month now. Not sure if it's the same one I had at 172 or if they are different rams but I suspect they are the same ram. The raffle tag holder tagged out in Cleman last Saturday with a 160 class ram.
The auction tag holder is not looking in Cleman much for a big ram. They had the 170 ram spotted as a backup ram. They are looking elsewhere but it's a lot easier to access Cleman than get a boat and find a Manson ram. Umptanum isn't easy to access so nobody wants to go in there despite the fact that I found and have pictures of 2 rams that approach or exceed 170".
It is very possible there are no 170 rams in Cleman right now. That mountain is crawling with 150 and 160 rams and it's hard to differentiate between a 160 and a 170 ram. A lot of people mis judge and just are happy with a nice ram and so the average hunt lasts about a day or two. The record isn't higher because WA hasn't started producing rams like this until fairly recently. We just planted Manson about 10 years ago and we only give out 1 tag in Swakane if that every now and then. The Cleman population had a lot of problems for a while until they supplemented the herd with new genetic stock.
Plus, not everyone enters their rams in the book.
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8) We are on the same page.
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o boy i hope he post some pictures soon if he did get one. i am crawling around in my seat i can't wait like a kid for xmas i love seeing those special tags filled
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Very cool. That ram with a bum hind right is BIG. He's the 2nd biggest ram we saw during our time up there.
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Pics please.
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Do you think the other one is bigger or smaller?
For the record I think the first one in the blurry pics is larger but not by much maybe 4-5 inches at best ... pretty much the same mass but longer IMO. :) I think he will find a larger one to take!
The one in the blurry pic is longer by 4 inches or more. I need to see more pics. I'm sure he is having a blast up there. Hopefully he sticks with the bow. Is he shooting a compound?
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He did end up getting one with a rifle. The one in the blurry pic was nice but on the first day it was smart to pass knowing the 172" ram that the older gentleman in the other thread got was out there so he held out. A smart decision in my opinion. We'll all wait to see what he got and the story.
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whyd he switch to rifle so early, either way cant wait to see pics of the ram he got
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Hopefully we don't have too long to wait. A sheep tag is the ultimate dream!
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Good for Coach!!! Rifle or bow, thats truly a hunt of a lifetime.
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that is so cool a sheep is a sheep with bow muzzle rifle handgun shotgun whatever that is great i can't wait to see it and hear the story.
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woooohhooooo congrats to Cory.
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Long and short of it, did Corey tag out? His shop is right down the street from my Fire Station, every time I inspect his business I get horn envy.
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He did end up getting one with a rifle. The one in the blurry pic was nice but on the first day it was smart to pass knowing the 172" ram that the older gentleman in the other thread got was out there so he held out. A smart decision in my opinion. We'll all wait to see what he got and the story.
this is what we know from pope cle elum bowhunter i am sure he will post maybe tomarrow even :drool:
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I'll have to swing by his shop when I get off in the morning. I'm sure the boys there will know.
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It's really not my story to tell even if I had one. Coach will be on or send word when he gets time. I'm envious as he has managed to hunt bighorns 3 more days than I have.
I was able to get an exclusive picture of the ram though. :chuckle:
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man that thing is a stud :chuckle: i thought you said there was no 170's left that thing is pushing 180"
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Looks like I am going to have to go up there and take a picture of the damn thing myself. :chuckle:
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Looks like I am going to have to go up there and take a picture of the damn thing myself. :chuckle:
Heck Bone, with all the sheep pics you have taken you probobly already have a pic if it. :chuckle:...pope too.
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:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Well Corey just dropped off his ram with me and what an exceptional ram it is. Throwing score out the window this ram has so much more character than normal. His 10 1/2 + years of age (yes, I said 10 1/2 +) makes him a more desirable trophy than a 172 ram in my book. The stories that this ram could tell and the things that he has seen over the years could make your head spin. He will be the oldest ram out of 25+ that I will have had the pleasure of mounting and definitely the oldest on the mountain. I'd be willing to bet that he is in the top 5 or less of being one of the oldest taken in the state.
It was great getting to spend some time with Corey and his friends Dan and Chris. I feel like I've made a good friend.
It just goes to show that beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder and this is one beautiful ram. Congratulations Corey!
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10 1/2 :yike: Congrats Corey, can't wait for the update and pics.
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:yike: Thats AWSOME....Congrats on a true trophy.
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wow sounds like he definately got a nice mature ram cant wait for his story and pics
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sounds like an old warrier, a perfect ram to tag with a OIL tag. Way to go!
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Congrats! His mass must be impressive.
Awesome, awesome trophy.
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Awesome - looking forward to the pics
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wow 10.5, what a good old ram like said awsome sheep to take off the mountain. i can't wait to see him.
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Corey, congrats on your success. Looking forward to coming by the shop to see pictures. I work again next Tuesday.
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Talked with Corey a few hours ago. He said the biologist went to pull the front teeth and they were gone. The teeth that he was able to pull were pulled out with his fingers, no pliers needed. Sounds to me like the ram probably wouldn't have made it through another year.
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Can't wait to see the ram! Congrats
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great hunt . I give a quick story with more to come , I took a gun on a bow hunt and made a quick dession to shoot when limpy showed , not the huge ram I thaught from the stories but an old boy at least 10 1/2 years old. no front teeth and on his last year for sure. maybe I did gods work to save him a cruel death . he's a throphie in my mind . I got to hunt with two great friends . and met new ones for sure . thanks to pope ,phool , elkstuffer I know that I've met new friends for sure.thanks for taking the ride with me. Coach
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Awesome ram Coach, thats one smart old bugger that will make a great addition to your wall.
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good looking ram, lets see some other angles.
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heres one more
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wow wow wow wow i got my ram pix fix now :chuckle: congrats i am so happy you got such a great ram congrats to you.
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also i am sure you are right this was his last winter for sure, i am glad you got him he probably wasn't breedin anymore also a great ram, great trophy congrats again
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great trophy coach, man those hooves are worn down, pope whats he score ah who cares nice job anyway coach
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Congrats Coach. Sorry we didn't get to hook up. Hopefully you enjoyed all the pics in the pre game. I'm gld you got your trophy.
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Great job coach! Sure is a trophy! Enjoyed all the pics and knowledable sheep talk from rest of you guys.
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A little late maybe, but this one scores 181
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Nice Catdogs, is that Montana?
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Great ram coach, sounds like you hunted your ass off and made some great memories!! Thats the perfect hunt in my book.
MS
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Great job coach! He's a great ram.
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Congrats Cory!!! :whoo: I am happy for you that is a great trophy, he'll look great on your wall and it sounds like he will also serve many good memories for years to come when you look at him and remember this hunt ... That's what it is all about! :)
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Coach,
Congrats on your ram.
He's a beauty !
That ram has a lot of charactor. I love the battle scars on the top parts of his horns. That dude has done his far share of fighting !
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congrats to u coach, i must say that was the most grulling 3 days of hunting weve done in a long long time, enjoyed every minute of it and would do it again tomarow with u. maybe next time ill be the lucky one to draw but either way it was great spending time with a great friend, i stepped on the scale and dropped 11 pounds in those 3 days..
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Thanks Elk ( Chris ) . I Had an great time aswell . Nothing like spending time with great friends in the woods . I don't know what you say about gruelling I can almost walk today lol. Thanks again for the help I couldnt imagine that pack without your help. I can wait for you to draw I'm all over that. Just hurry up those hills arn't getting any flater. Glad you were abile to get into some elk action sat. Your always around the killing I know thats not by chance your a great hunter and a great friend . Corey.
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Nice Job Coach! Congratulations!
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Congratulations Coach! Bottom line you got a mature ram with a lot charactor and had a great experience that will never be duplicated. And from the sound of it he was a skittish old boy that had been around the block a time or two. You have a great trophy and should be very proud.
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no doubt pat , he kinda redefines what a throhpy is to me , great hunt , being able to to pass on game , spending time with good friends , meeting new ones, harvesting an old mature animal in a way spareing him a disgracefull way out this winter no doubt . then realizing that most of my fellow hunters see it the same way. All this reasures me that this is a great group of guys that respect the sport and the wildlife as much as I do . Thanks Coach
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Great job coach what a year you had.