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Title: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 16, 2009, 03:16:34 PM: I finally got my moose antlers back from Alaska. I'm looking for some help scoring them. If anyone has any hints/help for me, or knows where I could take them in the local area (I'm in Orting) to get help, or have them scored, I would appreciate it. I am following the B & C score sheet, but still have some questions. I have no experience with scoring, or having an animal that is even close to scoring high enough. Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: PA BEN on October 17, 2009, 05:55:51 AM: Here you go.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/pdf/moosesc.pdf
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: boneaddict on October 17, 2009, 07:30:24 AM: Pay very close attention to parallel lines and perpendicular lines when measuring. You'll know what I mean when you get going. using a square and masking tape on the back side always is a big help to keep track of lines. Its where most people inflate their score. Probably where Shane is scewing up with his. You don't necessarily get credit for everything you think you should.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: bow4elk on October 17, 2009, 07:52:27 AM: I'm in Olympia and can help you out, but I'm not a B&C measurer. There are a few around the area, including a great guy up in Auburn. If your moose is not a record book contender and you'd like an accurate score, I'm happy to do it.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 17, 2009, 09:35:13 PM: I work tomorrow, but will look at it again on Monday. My biggest question is on the palm length. If I measure the length parallel to the inside line, do I only measure the main palm, or do I go to the edge of the brow palm, including the gap between the main and brow palms (is that what they call the bay)? Do I measure the length down the middle of the widest point? Or is it the middle of the top edge? Thanks for the help. bow4elk, I may take you up on your offer, if I get in the Olympia area anytime soon.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: SHANE(WA) on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 AM: Screwing up LOL, I have watched several vids on how to score the paddles, parallel straight line to the bay of the brows depending on how many brows u can score the longest straight line from either bay whatever is greater, now if it only has 2 then its made easy from the only bay
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 20, 2009, 10:28:01 AM: Quote from: SHANE(WA) on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 AM
Screwing up LOL, I have watched several vids on how to score the paddles, parallel straight line to the bay of the brows depending on how many brows u can score the longest straight line from either bay whatever is greater, now if it only has 2 then its made easy from the only bay

Here is how Shane measured his palm length... (by the way, it's just a joke Shane :P )

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/DSC00948.jpg)
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: boneaddict on October 20, 2009, 10:39:12 AM: :chuckle:

"I watched several videos" LOL

You did note in those videos that you only get one mass measurement right?
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 20, 2009, 11:57:26 AM: hmm... on shanes moose, would you measure where the red line is? but without the loop dee loop?
i dont understand where to measure, or do you hold the tape at the ont and back and pull tight?
shane was only counting the 1 mass measurement per side btw.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 20, 2009, 12:07:00 PM: they are hard to score i would take it to someone who knows how :twocents:
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 20, 2009, 12:17:52 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on October 20, 2009, 11:57:26 AM
hmm... on shanes moose, would you measure where the red line is? but without the loop dee loop?
i dont understand where to measure, or do you hold the tape at the ont and back and pull tight?
shane was only counting the 1 mass measurement per side btw.

It's hard to tell from the picture but I would score it as such...
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 20, 2009, 02:49:37 PM: If I use the red line, and throw in another loop (or two), I could be close to the B & C record! Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: boneaddict on October 20, 2009, 03:58:00 PM: Thats what Shane is trying for I think. Popes line is pretty close from the armchair and pic here
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: PA BEN on October 20, 2009, 05:19:35 PM: Here's the book you want. I bought one last year when I drew my moose tag. It tells how to field judge and score all game. ;) I bought a used one and it was like new.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=measuring+and+judging+big+game&x=21&y=17
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: Wea300mag on October 20, 2009, 08:02:07 PM: Quote from: popeshawnpaul on October 20, 2009, 10:28:01 AM
Quote from: SHANE(WA) on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 AM
Screwing up LOL, I have watched several vids on how to score the paddles, parallel straight line to the bay of the brows depending on how many brows u can score the longest straight line from either bay whatever is greater, now if it only has 2 then its made easy from the only bay

Here is how Shane measured his palm length... (by the way, it's just a joke Shane :P )

(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/DSC00948.jpg)

I don't care who you are, that is freaking funny. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 20, 2009, 10:24:35 PM: I am going to meet with an official B & C scorer from Buckley on, or after, November 12 (after the required 60 day drying out time) to have my moose scored. After talking with him for some clarifications, I think my moose may score high enough to make the Awards level, but be just short of the All Time book. I am extremely happy with my moose (and the hunt as a whole) no matter what it scores, but to make B & C would be an added bonus. Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 21, 2009, 09:35:13 AM: I'll score shane's bull from the pictures...

41 width
30+28 p length
8+8 points
6+6 mass
8+8 p width

Total = 143 gross and it probably nets about 3-4" less...

Also, remember they shrink Shane. Mine was 45" when it hit the ground in width and now it's just about at 44". The photos always were deceptive with this bull. His head was always out in front and 3 guys were always 20 feet behind the head of the animal. It's ok to make it look big but it gets ridiculous. I think you should either be touching the moose or be within arm reach of the antlers. :twocents:
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: Ray on October 21, 2009, 10:11:29 AM: Fine looking moose. If I want a measurement I just take them to the measurer. Just happens to be that I never shoot anything worth measuring but my hunting partner is a measurer for BC and PY. In case I ever change my ways from being a meat hunter to a horn hunter. You should get one to put a tape on those paddles.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 21, 2009, 02:35:10 PM: If I am scoring my correctly (and I think I am pretty close) I come up with these measurements.

Spread - 66"
Abnormal Points - Right=0, Left=1
Normal Points - Right=10, Left= 9
Width of Palm - Right=17 1/4", Left=14 1/2"
Length of Palm - Right=47", Left=53"
Smallest Circumference - Right=7 1/2", Left=7 1/2"

This gives me a net score of 221 after 10 6/8 in deductions. This would be over the 210 minimum for the Awards level, and just under the 224 minimum for the All Time book.

After the 60 day drying out period, I will have them officially scored and see how close I actually am. Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2009, 03:21:34 PM: Sounds like an awesome bull.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: need2huntmor on October 21, 2009, 09:53:40 PM: I didn't mean to start such a fight. I just had a simple question on scoring moose antlers. All I know is I had an incredible trip and was lucky enough to get a moose much bigger than I could have hoped for (we actually got two moose bigger than we could have hoped for). Amazing trip! Amazing moose! Great company! Great memories! If the moose happens to score high, and make B & C, it would be icing on the cake. What my moose scores (or any animal I happen to get) is not the most important thing to me. I like to shoot big animals as much as the next hunter, but I thoroughly enjoy every trip I am able to go on. Until I got this moose, I have never shot anything even remotely close to the record books. If the size of every animal I shoot becomes that important too me, I don't know if I would enjoy the hunts as much anymore. There is only one way to know the score of any animal. Get it scored by an official scorer.
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: Ray on October 22, 2009, 12:26:33 PM: Quote from: mossback91 on October 21, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
I hate seeing hunting being turned into a contest more than anything!!

Thats all i see with this bicker about a score!

This aint a basketball game boys!

I agree. It's getting old from both sides. If he says it's 160 so what?
Title: Re: Help scoring moose antlers!
Post by: jackelope on October 22, 2009, 12:30:13 PM: cleaned up courtesy of me.
keep it on track.