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Title: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on October 23, 2009, 08:24:05 PM
Anyone heard if any of the chum are starting to show in the canal yet?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on October 23, 2009, 08:59:49 PM
should be some around Johns Creek or Kennedy Creek and by the end of the month Hoodsport should have them.


I would give my left nut for a bunch of chum eggs right now!!!

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on October 25, 2009, 10:17:07 AM
Are they better or something or are you just running low?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on October 25, 2009, 10:32:49 AM
The Skoks are netting the crap out of them on the canal.  They are thick at my Dads on Totten Inlet.  My Dad watched 6 seals in fron of his house the other day and every one of them had a bright chum in its mouth.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on October 25, 2009, 08:24:11 PM
I would say they are fine eggs for cureing and I'm always LOW.  ;) My guide buddy who has been doing very well on a new cure ( 20 fish per day average ) he has made is going to get me a bunch and I need some eggs to use it on.

I had a buddy that was sapose to have a buddy that was going to get me a bunch this year. Now it don't look like it's going to work out as he can't get in touch with the guy.

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on October 25, 2009, 08:48:47 PM
I'm hoping to get a few out of the sound this weekend for eggs.  I give the carcasses to my neighbor to smoke, he'll smoke any kind of fish.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on October 25, 2009, 09:00:49 PM
Ya ive never fished them but wanna try it on the canal i heard it can be pretty fun  :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on October 25, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
We caught them in Alaska with trout rods and 8 lb line.  Hell of a good time when you hook into a 15 pounder on light gear and have to chase it for 20 minutes with a skiff to get it in.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on October 29, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
We caught them in Alaska with trout rods and 8 lb line.  Hell of a good time when you hook into a 15 pounder on light gear and have to chase it for 20 minutes with a skiff to get it in.

 My friends wife caught a 40lb chum on a local river, honest to pete I saw the disposable shot of it and it's every ounce a 40lb fish. If my scanner still worked I would post, but he's not the type to care about any kind of record fish as far as that goes. I've never had any luck with the chums, they don't like me for some reason. I fished the Satsop one time and literally everyone was yarding them in but me.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on October 29, 2009, 10:38:37 AM
Be proud that those swimming cans of dogfood do not like you..............

I do not blame your buddy..........who wants their name as the state record holder for a chum anyway.

Kinda like having the record for pinks.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on October 29, 2009, 11:24:24 AM
I would.... Just because theyre not as highly regarded as kings and silvers their still a ton of fun and i would love to catch a gigantic chum  :twocents:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on October 29, 2009, 05:23:27 PM
An old timer told me that fishing for chums is a lot like making love to yer sister. It might feel good but it's just not some thing you go bragging about to yer buddies.   :yike:

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on October 29, 2009, 07:06:48 PM
That's funny cuz it's true!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on October 29, 2009, 07:17:41 PM
The Hoodsport Hatchery update can be heard at 360-877-5222. It has tribal netting info as well.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on October 29, 2009, 09:37:03 PM
Chum have great eggs. And they smoke just fine.. If they are bright. If they have bars they go back to the water. They sure are fun to catch though.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: ICEMAN on October 30, 2009, 05:07:51 AM
Be proud that those swimming cans of dogfood do not like you..............

I do not blame your buddy..........who wants their name as the state record holder for a chum anyway.

Kinda like having the record for pinks.

Hey, I had the state record for Carp for 23 years....until recently.... :cryriver:


And yes, I wore it proudly....any state record accomplished by a 16 year old is a good record.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 30, 2009, 08:23:26 AM
so it was you!

there were bigger fish in lois lake than there were in long lake, but damn those things were spooky,even though nobody but me fished for them.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: ICEMAN on October 30, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Did ya see my pic in the Daily O and H&F news...sporting the look alike Ray Scott hat and the long hair? Pretty groovy!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Tom Tamer on October 30, 2009, 07:27:38 PM
I would.... Just because theyre not as highly regarded as kings and silvers their still a ton of fun and i would love to catch a gigantic chum  :twocents:

Heck ya it's like hooking into  a Buick with ten pound test. They're showing up on the Green finally.....yet those Darn Pinks just won't go away
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on October 30, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
Why fish for chum when there are plentiful, edible fish available?

Chums are good for one thing.......feeding smolt. They are river fertilizer.

Guess that means more for you, eh?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 30, 2009, 11:12:20 PM
here is some chum for you guys :puke: :DOH:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on October 31, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
They have the strength of kings and the antics of silvers, bottom line is they are fun to catch!!!

Besides the fun factor I keep a couple every year for the roe, it makes great steelhead bait and gets me through the season.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on October 31, 2009, 04:13:14 PM
Strength of kings, antics of silvers.............

Don't forget, skin of a leper, mold, and loose, large eggs that need spawn sack netting to keep them together.

Put em in your net, and the damn thing gets all gunked up with sloughed off chum.

If they are the greatest, why don't anybody get em mounted? Ever see a taxidermist advertise he mounts chums?

They are barred up in the salt, and their pale, soft meat takes magic to firm up and give a palatable flavor.

Best way to eat chums is to bury them in the garden, and wait till next falls corn/tomatoes.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on October 31, 2009, 04:17:34 PM
I get them every year with firm eggs.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on October 31, 2009, 06:59:06 PM
Strength of kings, antics of silvers.............

Don't forget, skin of a leper, mold, and loose, large eggs that need spawn sack netting to keep them together.

Put em in your net, and the damn thing gets all gunked up with sloughed off chum.

If they are the greatest, why don't anybody get em mounted? Ever see a taxidermist advertise he mounts chums?

They are barred up in the salt, and their pale, soft meat takes magic to firm up and give a palatable flavor.

Best way to eat chums is to bury them in the garden, and wait till next falls corn/tomatoes.

Can you ID this fish? :yike:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi288.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll187%2Fdcrzfitter%2Fjimssister.jpg&hash=6dae6d52ab80dd4ecddaafb3f12f4a8a8e58d0ea)

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on October 31, 2009, 07:41:59 PM
Yeah, that is about as good as they get.

Rare, in that condition and you know it. Lets see a pic with a limit of em like that.

Still aint eatin it.

Snow on the ground means there are better fish available.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: actionshooter on October 31, 2009, 08:36:24 PM
I like going and catching them once in a while. I don't keep them unless someone asks me for some smokers, then I'll bring em home and give them away. I have never been able to catch, 60+ kings or silvers in a day, done it a couple of times on the dogs.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 01, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
Yeah, that is about as good as they get.

Rare, in that condition and you know it. Lets see a pic with a limit of em like that.

Still aint eatin it.

Snow on the ground means there are better fish available.

In that river they are all like that or better.

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 01, 2009, 02:34:36 PM
Wow.

River full of wall hangers.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: boneaddict on November 01, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
Sorry, but on a fly rod they just about can't be beat.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fchum1a.jpg&hash=cb83ccab6878351d1d644fdb9c44fc421c85d640)
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 01, 2009, 02:46:14 PM
Wow. River full of wall hangers.

 To each his own Tomy. Not your cup of tee?, fine stay home, but some people go out to catch fish to have fun and there is no reason for you to rain on their parade.

 Nice pic Bone, looks like a blast.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 01, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
Chum are great for beginers. The pic I posted was my buddys sister with her socond salmon. She out fished the guys that day and the day she caught her first.

Fishing is fishing. Weather yer catching carp or spring chinook. It's better than sitting on the couch and reading about it on the WWW.


Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 01, 2009, 05:29:17 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 01, 2009, 09:33:54 PM
the nisqually used to be fun when you'd never see more than a handful of guys fishing it.  too bad the riffraff snagger crowd started to show up and a certain fishing site now loves to hype it up.

then again,  you could say that's happened to all the rivers i used to fish a lot, makes me kind of glad i live out on the coast now.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 02, 2009, 05:43:15 PM
BGT sad that you don't even have to go look for yourself any more, pretty easy to chase internet reports. It reallyu sucks.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 02, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
I am going Saturday with a fried of mine that is a bigtime fish slayer.

Will post update Saturday night. :)
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on November 02, 2009, 06:00:53 PM
My Dad has been catching a bunch of them off of his bulkhead in Totten with a bobber and anchovie rig.  He catches them and tosses them back.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: klickman on November 03, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
I don't think there is a better C&R salmon.  Edible maybe not but fun to catch you bet. 

KLICKMAN
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Gobble on November 03, 2009, 05:19:59 PM
I don't think there is a better C&R salmon.  Edible maybe not but fun to catch you bet. 

KLICKMAN

Absolutely they are my favorite fish to catch. No fish fights harder pound for pound than a chum.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Gobble on November 03, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
That run in the Nisqually is the nicest run of chum you will find. Many of the fish of that run look like steelhead they are so bright. I wish the rest of the chum runs in the state had their genetics
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: cohoho on November 03, 2009, 05:29:56 PM
Heck yea, we used to ATV into the Manauska Valley right outside Palmer and hit the feeder streams for Chums, they'd attack everything throw at them, my kids and I absolutey loved catching them, especially on a fly rod or light gear..... Almost a fish a cast, try that with too many other fish..... and when the teeth come full tilt, yee-haw, even better...   

Title: Re: chum?
Post by: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 11:56:55 AM
have you ever wondered why the native runs of fish such as chum and pink do so much better than the kings and silvers?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 05, 2009, 02:17:24 PM
well i made my first trip up to hoodsport this morning to try and catch a couple chums... I sure wish i wouldve thought to look at the netting schedule  :bash: Ive never fished there before but did a little research so i had a baseline of how to start out but it didnt work out... there were so many net boats and nets out that you couldnt fish anywhere near hoodsport and the hatchery itself so i headed north a ways figuring that would be better to maybe get into them before they get down there but i only saw like one group of them roll and like 1 jump. Tried casting everything at them and trolling different rigs too but i guess i still have a lot to learn as all i got was soaked. Tips????
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: duckmen1 on November 05, 2009, 06:06:30 PM
i had the same problem last thursday
they only net two days a week but in the meentime the fish are stuck cause the rack is closed so when the fish start to stack back up they are there wiping them out again
50% of the harvest my butt
try 95%
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: hard hunter on November 05, 2009, 09:56:46 PM
Going to try to get up there on Sat.  I'll let you know.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 05, 2009, 11:02:18 PM
bowtech, thats why I posted the hotline number, it tells you the natives net Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on November 06, 2009, 05:40:48 AM
I was up at Hoodsport on wednesday and watched a couple of dudes on the bank with fish on right at that tiny hatchery just south of the Potlatch Park.  Drove down the Skok from Perdy Cutoff to Hunters and through the rez and saw at least 6 guys with fish on and a bunch flopping on the bank.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: boneaddict on November 06, 2009, 05:50:37 AM
You want real sport, go out in your floattube at hoodsport.  Fish with an indicator and dead drift chum candies, or flourescent yarn LOL.    Then hook one and hang on.  Kinda fun to land in a float tube. You'll have fish jumping into your tube with you, and will have pods of them circling you like sharks, and they will ram you etc.  Pretty cool.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 06, 2009, 08:23:27 AM
bowtech, thats why I posted the hotline number, it tells you the natives net Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Ya i called the number when you posted it and then totally forgot about it and never called it again before i went... i know i shouldve known better
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 06, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
You want real sport, go out in your floattube at hoodsport.  Fish with an indicator and dead drift chum candies, or flourescent yarn LOL.    Then hook one and hang on.  Kinda fun to land in a float tube. You'll have fish jumping into your tube with you, and will have pods of them circling you like sharks, and they will ram you etc.  Pretty cool.

I did this several years ago at Johns Creek. It was allot of fun!!!

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: hard hunter on November 07, 2009, 03:47:42 PM
This morning the fishing at the hatchery was a lot of fun.  Only had to release one foul hooked (others de-hooked themselves.  Should have had a limit easy except I had technical dificulties with my reel.  I hooked a lot of fish and ended up taking two home..A word of advise watch the tides, I got a little confused on when high tide was and ended up on the far side of the channel and had to wait to cross or swim...I waited.  From what I saw there were only a few people there when it opened  and all caught fish.  The croud started to arrive after high tide 8:30 but really got going after 10.  The fishing had slowed way down by then.   I left about 11.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 07, 2009, 03:50:32 PM
I will be fishing it from a boat tomorrow... at what point in the tide did you find the most success and at when would you recommend to go??? and if you dont mind what were you having luck with hard hunter?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 07, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
From a boat I wounder how a super cut plug would work? maybe the Jack Pot. Would be cool to put a few out a troll around the Hatchery and slam some fresh salty chums.

When you are around the hatchery do me a favor and keep an eye on the bottom and tell me what you see all over it. Other than oysters and rocks.


Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 07, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Ya im gonna try the super cut plug to see how that works too... i just got a couple a while back after your recommendation and havent tried them yet  :dunno: What do you mean on the bottom? something wierd ?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: hard hunter on November 07, 2009, 09:26:56 PM
we were thowing corkie and yarn or a jig.  I felt the best bite was first thing in the morning the fish weren't getting pushed around as much as when the "troops" arrive.  Saw guys using everything from corkies to flies but green whatever seemed to do the best.  good luck
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 07, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
Try a 4" to 6" jellyfish, suspended under a bobber.

They dig em. A lot.

Keeps their flesh pale and spongy.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntncoug on November 07, 2009, 10:53:27 PM
Try a 4" to 6" jellyfish, suspended under a bobber.

They dig em. A lot.

Keeps their flesh pale and spongy.

Thanks for the info Big Stick my chum have always been to red and firm, I will give the jellyfish a try.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 07, 2009, 11:35:42 PM
Aint Stick.

Your are damn skippy about the condition of chumdumsters when they git to Sultan. They sure are "prime".

Chrome, deep hue of the flesh, worthy of any table. That is all fact.


The most entertaining part about crumbs is how they keep many people away from edible fish that require a touch more skill..............and provide variety to a freezer that must be chock full of pinks.

Windfall and low lying fruit always keep the prime fruit.......... prime.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntncoug on November 07, 2009, 11:56:07 PM
Honestly Stick, I dont think any Chum or Humpy is decent table fare.  I also dont think most summer or winter run steelhead are worth eating.  I will keep a few chum for their eggs and maybe smoke them up to give to my friends and family that are not as snobby when it comes to Salmon.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 08, 2009, 12:24:03 AM
Still aint Stick...........

Another funny part is to see the locations of those who defend the "venerable" chum............and think of the time it takes to drive to a location that offers those swimming smolt feedbags.

All the while they must pass up several opportunities to fish for what is turning out to be a stellar year for silvers and kingers.

Surely this message will strike the ire of many............the funniest part is how some take chummin so seriously.........purchasing high flutin gear for chums is kinda like wearing a tux to a whorehouse.

Whatever yanks yer crank, I suppose. But do not be mistaken, pale and soft is positive adjective for many foods and drinks....................but salmonoids aint one of em.

G3's..............GLX...........REVO..........and chartreuse or green yarn. Gits a chuckle every time.

Just wait, jellyfish suspended under bobber will be all the rage. 
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntncoug on November 08, 2009, 12:30:23 AM
What fishery justifies the use of Loomis GL3's I havent found one yet.  I also had to laugh when I went to the Wallace river Hatchery and half the guys had $400 Loomis's while flossing and snagging silvers.  Maybe in AK there is a fishery that requires the use of extremely expensive rods? 
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 08, 2009, 01:05:11 AM
The most commonly used excuse for using that kind of gear on crumbs is: "Just testin the drag on my new reel before steelhead season, and checkin the backbone on this here new rod."

As for using chums as "practice fish"...........won't even start with that one.

Same guys who hang it up a week or two after Turkey Day, when fishing gets "slow"............and all they do is get all bowed up waitin again for next years run of river fertilizer.

10-4 on GL3's.............it aint the tools, its the mechanic.



Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on November 08, 2009, 08:03:24 AM
Yeah, I get a kick out of seeing these dudes with a grand worth of gear hanging off of them standing shoulder to shoulder in less than 18" of water, fighting for soreback chums.  I love watching them proudly display their catch as they walk along the highway with eggs or milt squirting out of those black gators.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: trout-n-salmon on November 08, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
I roped some Chum at Hoodsport yesterday, then stopped by my favorite high water hole on the Skok and caught four more... They are there for sure. ;)
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
 Okay Tomy you've made your point, you don't like fishing for chums, now run along. Find something positive to add to the threads for once, your negativity is getting tiresome.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 08, 2009, 06:57:38 PM
Guess some can't take a little poke..................

There has not been one lie posted, everything I said was based on facts.

 ..........knew somebody would show their teeth eventually.

I have friends who defend the low lying fruit, too.

Facts can be painful, I suppose.

One last thought: of all the old timers I have had the pleasure to know, who had the blessings of being able to fish 40-50 years ago, not one has ever mentioned fishing for chums. Those old timers valued skill in pursuit of their quarry, and the quality of quarry itself.............guess nobody holds improvement in high regard anymore.

Food for thought.

Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 08, 2009, 07:07:32 PM
Guess some can't take a little poke.

 Sure I can, you made your point of not liking chums, now move on and let those that want to discuss them do it without your repetitive negative comments.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 08, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
If that ain't stick I'll eat my shorts!!! I know his style from other Forums where they finally kicked him out for good. Likes to cause trouble and thinks he's GOD. Although he is trying to keep it to a dull roar right now as to not be so obvious.

I bet he don't last 2 weeks on this board.

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 09, 2009, 12:08:07 AM
Fishcrazy: what is a good side dish for shorts?



Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 09, 2009, 06:51:53 PM
Tomy could you post up some pics of those fish you guys catch in Alaska. Even one of them dark chums would be cool or some of them Lings. You take some awsome pics.


Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: JFK on November 10, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
Good god I can't believe you think it's Big Stick. Know this legend well. He's a washingtonian, and a good guy. Just likes to argue a little or debate would be a better word. Hell I was the guys roommate for years. Good times, Jack
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 10, 2009, 09:31:29 PM
Good god I can't believe you think it's Big Stick. Know this legend well. He's a washingtonian, and a good guy. Just likes to argue a little or debate would be a better word. Hell I was the guys roommate for years. Good times, Jack

who the heck is "big stick"??? or do i want to know?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Tomy could you post up some pics of those fish you guys catch in Alaska.

 It will be a few days.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 10, 2009, 09:39:58 PM
I think Tomy's a poor man's Big Stick....
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 10, 2009, 10:34:29 PM
Well I just put 40 fillets into brine tonight. I suppose that lets all know how I feel about chum. :dunno:

I will post pictures in a couple days when I take the first batch out of the smoker. Then maybe some will rethink how they feel about chum.

I have a good friend who has made extremely good friends with the tribe out on the coast. He gets alot of fresh fish from them. Somehow I always get suckered into doing a bunch during the week.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: klickman on November 11, 2009, 04:08:18 PM
Heck yea, we used to ATV into the Manauska Valley right outside Palmer and hit the feeder streams for Chums, they'd attack everything throw at them, my kids and I absolutey loved catching them, especially on a fly rod or light gear..... Almost a fish a cast, try that with too many other fish..... and when the teeth come full tilt, yee-haw, even better...   



My first fly rod salmon was a chum from one of those creeks.  Gotta love a 10 lb fish on a 6wt. :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:

KLICKMAN
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: klickman on November 11, 2009, 04:41:27 PM
What fishery justifies the use of Loomis GL3's I havent found one yet.  I also had to laugh when I went to the Wallace river Hatchery and half the guys had $400 Loomis's while flossing and snagging silvers.  Maybe in AK there is a fishery that requires the use of extremely expensive rods? 

Nope there isn't a fishery up here that needs a $400 rod.  Have caught plenty of Kenai Kings on GL2's, and Berkley IM7's. 

KLICKMAN
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Gobble on November 11, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
I roped some Chum at Hoodsport yesterday, then stopped by my favorite high water hole on the Skok and caught four more... They are there for sure. ;)

I hope you know that you can only keep one limit of salmon per day. That doesn't mean you can catch one limit in salt and then go somewhere else and catch another on a river, that will get you a hefty fine.

Just saying, don't want you to get in trouble  :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: spur_ride on November 11, 2009, 04:53:48 PM
Hunt WA chum trip?  :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Antlershed on November 11, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
I roped some Chum at Hoodsport yesterday, then stopped by my favorite high water hole on the Skok and caught four more... They are there for sure. ;)

I hope you know that you can only keep one limit of salmon per day. That doesn't mean you can catch one limit in salt and then go somewhere else and catch another on a river, that will get you a hefty fine.

Just saying, don't want you to get in trouble  :dunno:
He never said he kept any of them...  :)

I went to Hoodsport today and caught and released 3 before the indians started netting.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
Have not checked the hotline in a few days, last time I checked it said they were only netting Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Antlershed on November 11, 2009, 08:07:58 PM
They were netting and the tribal cop was standing there watching them.  :bash:

Forgot to mention, I was using my G Loomis Steelhead series rod and shimano curado...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 11, 2009, 09:25:01 PM
What fishery justifies the use of Loomis GL3's I havent found one yet.  I also had to laugh when I went to the Wallace river Hatchery and half the guys had $400 Loomis's while flossing and snagging silvers.  Maybe in AK there is a fishery that requires the use of extremely expensive rods? 

That's like saying you don't need anything more than an old rusty 870 to shoot birds.  Nice gear is just more enjoyable to fish with, and in many circumstances (e.g. drift steelhead) it's significantly more effective.  Certainly you could use a yellow Eagle Claw to pull plugs or floss...but it's a whole lot more fun to fight them on a sensitive fast rod, and with a good rod you'll lose half the gear and catch twice as many fish drift fishing.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 11, 2009, 09:48:47 PM
What fishery justifies the use of Loomis GL3's I havent found one yet.  I also had to laugh when I went to the Wallace river Hatchery and half the guys had $400 Loomis's while flossing and snagging silvers.  Maybe in AK there is a fishery that requires the use of extremely expensive rods? 

That's like saying you don't need anything more than an old rusty 870 to shoot birds.  Nice gear is just more enjoyable to fish with, and in many circumstances (e.g. drift steelhead) it's significantly more effective.  Certainly you could use a yellow Eagle Claw to pull plugs or floss...but it's a whole lot more fun to fight them on a sensitive fast rod, and with a good rod you'll lose half the gear and catch twice as many fish drift fishing.

Agree with that 100%  but I don't own any GLoomis rods. All mine are custom biult Rainshadow and Rogue Rods. About 20 of them the last time I counted. Same quality 1/2 the price.

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Thefisherman83 on November 11, 2009, 10:10:18 PM
Man when did this become a Loomis bashing thread  :dunno:  I have a couple and absolutely love them.  Cant tell if it is jealousy or ignorance driving the hate but they are made locally and have a lifetime warranty what's not to like.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
I have a couple Loomis rods, they are nice.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 11, 2009, 10:18:56 PM
Man when did this become a Loomis bashing thread  :dunno:  I have a couple and absolutely love them.  Cant tell if it is jealousy or ignorance driving the hate but they are made locally and have a lifetime warranty what's not to like.

I don't know???  :dunno: But I have a loomis rod and they are nice I just prefer Sage and have 5 of them I wouldn't say loomis are bad it's just personal preferance for me!   :)
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Quote
I just prefer Sage

Me too
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Thefisherman83 on November 11, 2009, 10:30:23 PM
Sorry guys I don't do that vegetarian (fly fishing) thing  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2009, 10:33:37 PM
Sorry guys I don't do that vegetarian (fly fishing) thing  :chuckle: :chuckle:

I have 2 bait casting Sage rods and a spinning rod all made from fly rod blanks by Gary Anderson, they are wonderful.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Thefisherman83 on November 11, 2009, 11:12:30 PM
I bet those kick ass  :)

Enough of the tread jacking back to the dogs.  I think they are funner than chit to catch, but will not take them home.  I can usually find something a little better for table fare, but thats just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 11, 2009, 11:35:22 PM
Sorry guys I don't do that vegetarian (fly fishing) thing  :chuckle: :chuckle:

I usally don't either in fact the two fly rods I have are the least used Sage rods I have out of the 5! I have two Steelhead drift rods a 286 & 386 and a 7'4 spinning rod that all have been abused over the years ... the fly rods look brand new  :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 12, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
For all who don't keep!

Before.

During

and................after coming soon.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Gobble on November 12, 2009, 10:05:23 AM
For all who don't keep!

Before.

During

and................after coming soon.

Too bad the chum aren't that RED. I've caught them and had them look pretty pink but never that red, that looks like silvers
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Firstlight on November 12, 2009, 10:13:44 AM
If those are chum they have been brined in red Bad Azz bait dye. :chuckle:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 12, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Well it's amazing what a little food coloring will do for the eye appeal.

If something looks good it will taste better than if it dosn't look good. :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2009, 11:32:20 AM
No thanks you can have them all ... I wouldn't feed a Chum to my dog!!!  :twocents:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 12, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
Im sooo confused by this thread...

Ive never seen anyone actually mad at a type of fish...lol  chums, pinks, who cares...  catch em all...eat em..dont even... who gives a rats arse? :dunno:

I would be happy to catch em all...  early this summer I went fishin with Tmike and we caught a lot of pinks and he tossed em all back...wouldnt even check em before hand..pink = toss em..   almost seemed mad to catch em...  I didnt argue because he knows way more than me...  sure was fun fightin em :dunno:

Later, my buddy went fishing and caught limits of pinks for days and I ended up with like 15 pounds...Ive eaten several of them and guess what...tastes fine to me :dunno:

Chums??  Id try it...  might like it...  might not...   might rather have a silver or a king or whatever...

maybe Im a different type of fisherman...  if the gold fish in my 55 gal tank get just a lil bigger Im gonna stretch some 2 lb test on my G Loomis Steelhead series rod and shimano curado and tear em up...

may or may not eat em :P

ps- I hate fishing compared to hunting!

also....   when is it good to fish the Nisqually for chums?  pinks?  whatever?   I live in Lacey and Id like a nice local spot...  Ill even do a lil combat fishin if need be :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Houndhunter on November 12, 2009, 12:29:55 PM
gona hit my spot tonight, should be full of them. LTL i know you and catwithboost are close to me, you guys wanna do a lil night fishin for chum sometime let me know
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Broken Arrow on November 12, 2009, 12:34:21 PM
never had so much fun...tank bridge...Fort Lewis....lb. for lb....bestr fighting fish out there!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 12, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
I'm with Tat - I'll fish for anything, anytime...pinks, dogs, carp, turtles, whatever.  I won't eat all of it, but I'll gladly catch it.

As for the Nisqually chums, that's a later run that most.  I think it gets into high gear in December.  I used to duck hunt down there a lot, and there would still be chrome bright chums coming in at the end of December and into January.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: CP on November 12, 2009, 12:41:16 PM
I keep one or two a season, no darker than this one.  Bleed, & ice immediately, grill the same day and they aren’t too bad.  I don’t like them smoked though. 

Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Houndhunter on November 12, 2009, 01:14:26 PM
i like em brite, have to keep this place more of a secret ;)
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Broken Arrow on November 12, 2009, 01:31:52 PM
looks like chum heaven with all the fluffy clouds!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 12, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
Hound...

thats a lovelu offer...let me say YES!

Ill pm u my cell...dont want all these tail chasin stalkers to have my info :P

night huh?  My buddy that gave me the pinks loved to night fish with glow in the dark lures...hmmm odd

lets do it...  but Ill will be spending the next few days trying to locate that last minute bear during day light...so night sounds really good...

Ill give my report on the eatin of chum right after hound takes me!!!

YAY :drool:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2009, 06:08:09 PM
Tat I never said I wouldn't fish for them I have and do and probably caught a truck load in my time I just don't care to eat them! Now if they really looked like the ones going into the smoker on this thread I would change my mind pretty quick ;) but those are pretty good looking soceye if ya ask me!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: finnman on November 12, 2009, 07:38:08 PM
Sorry boys, those are chums :rolleyes: on that rack!!! Evidently neither of you have read the book "1,000 uses for Red No.3"!!! Those were soaked in a simple brine with a bottle of Red food coloring, I don't personally care for chums, but the people who get this fish don't seem to know the difference!!! And it does look way more appetizing red than brown! :chuckle:
To each their own, Wapitihunter does a great job on smoking fish, these he got from a friend, they were pretty firm, so decided to do up a pile for them. Tomorrow he is heating up the pressure cooker and going to can some to see how it turns out.
I prefere Silvers....
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Antlershed on November 13, 2009, 07:02:51 AM
And it does look way more appetizing red than brown! :chuckle:
I think I just :puke: a little...

If I catch a fish that would require dying the meat red so it looks edible, that fish is going back in the water.   :o
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 13, 2009, 07:10:06 AM
M-Ray,

I'd be nervous to venture a guess what you would like to eat...

as for the chum...think I have a hot date with some along with houndhunter so we will see ;)

If they look gross Ill let em swim...  should be fun to catch em any way :dunno:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 13, 2009, 08:12:43 AM
the only way i like fishing for chums is when they're thick and i can catch a bunch of them.  none of that BS standing around with 200 idiots on the nisqually waiting for one to run into my line.  we used to have 100 fish days on the satsop in years past.

if i figure i'll only catch a few, i'd rather go after coho or steelhead.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 13, 2009, 09:50:54 AM
M-Ray,

I'd be nervous to venture a guess what you would like to eat...

as for the chum...think I have a hot date with some along with houndhunter so we will see ;)
If they look gross Ill let em swim...  should be fun to catch em any way :dunno:

They are fun to catch and they get you tuned up for winter steelheading. Trust me if you are doing it right they will test senses but if you just rip on everything you feel you will end up snagging 99% of them I usually hook 99% in the mouth but I have gotten to the point that I can tell now when they are just swimming through my line and I don't set the hook. Usually their bite is very very light. Also they will test your gear and you will get a feel for how much pressure you can put to them with your drag and thumb and how much pressure your line will handle ... this is great information to pay attention to when in March you hook into that 20+ pound Steelie, It has helped me on more than one occasion!  ;)

Oh and yes there are a few things I've eaten that I wont do again!!!  :chuckle:

Title: Re: chum?
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 13, 2009, 10:11:06 AM
sinner :rolleyes:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 13, 2009, 10:48:36 AM
Some people would eat a dried turd if you die it red and sprinkle liq. smoke on it. and ask for more. :drool:

I agree if it needs die it's fertilizer not food.


Chum is great if still good color. smoked with lemon pepper on it.
Fun to catch and the hardest pulling fish you can catch in a small river with big numbers. Had many trips we had to sit down and take a break because our arms were so cramped up.

Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Houndhunter on November 13, 2009, 03:53:35 PM
they may not have a real red meat, but them eggs can be red
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: hard hunter on November 13, 2009, 05:07:51 PM
Anyone go up to the hatcher at Hoodsport today?  Thinking about running up there tomarrow with the kids, they haven't been fishing in a while.  Did the netters get them all?
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 13, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
HoundHunter. Yer killing me!!!
I think you should drop them off and let me dispose of those properly for you.


Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: lokidog on November 13, 2009, 10:30:07 PM
Let's see.... no fish to smoke or chum to smoke?   I WILL take the chum anyday over nothing! 

Good luck to all.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: bowtech721 on November 14, 2009, 04:52:34 PM
I fished the hatchery yesterday and didnt do to good but cruised the beach looking for fish and saw an area where they were showing and ended up catching quite a few but they were NASTY! Now i would keep one if it were somewhat  bright because ive had them from the ocean and they were fine but i didnt even want to touch these! still fun but a few were like ready to literally die they squirted milk and eggs when we were unhooking them... i took a couple pics anyway but i gotta get them on the computer... A few fought really good and were real fun but a few were like reeling up a zombie fish.... that i imagine is that case with any fish though thats super close to spawning... beats sitting at home anyday though!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 23, 2009, 12:48:48 PM
 Had my step brother tell me he used some of this smoked chum in a Salmon Fettucini dish for some friends and they claimed it was the best smoked salmon they had ever had!!!! They were insistent on wanting to know where it came from. :dunno:

The flavor was spectacular yet some of it was a little soft and some turned out great. My cousin was also freaking out over it so to all the naysayers, I thought it turned out ok.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Houndhunter on November 23, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
ive smoked alot chum (infact thats pretty much the only fish i smoke) and everyone i give it to loves it :dunno:, they dont know its chum though :chuckle:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 26, 2009, 02:19:36 PM
You know you guys of coarse your friends will think its great cause they don't know any difference???  :dunno: If it was so great how come in the land of Salmon the winner of the Anchorage state fair every year is smoked King??? If you had them all lined up on a table you as outdoorsman would pick the King, Coho or possibly the Sockeye every time ... I doubt very much any of you would pick the Chum as the best smoked fish on the planet. Does that mean it doesn't smoke well at times? NO! Does that mean it's no good at times? NO!

The bottom line is if you smoke a turd ... it's still a turd!  :crap:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 26, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
The bottom line is if you smoke a turd ... it's still a turd!  :crap:

I'm going to try that someday just to prove you right. I'll be sure to put some liquid smoke on it as well. :chuckle:


Kris
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Houndhunter on November 28, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
You know you guys of coarse your friends will think its great cause they don't know any difference???  :dunno: If it was so great how come in the land of Salmon the winner of the Anchorage state fair every year is smoked King??? If you had them all lined up on a table you as outdoorsman would pick the King, Coho or possibly the Sockeye every time ... I doubt very much any of you would pick the Chum as the best smoked fish on the planet. Does that mean it doesn't smoke well at times? NO! Does that mean it's no good at times? NO!

The bottom line is if you smoke a turd ... it's still a turd!  :crap:

who said anything about it being the best smoked fish on the planet? no one said anything about that, its worth smoking and worth eating :twocents:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: boneaddict on November 28, 2009, 10:17:42 AM
Smoked alot of it myself.  It eats just fine if its fresh.   Want to see something cool, fillet one and stick it in the freezer.  The glands continue to secrete mucous and it will form a green mucous booger layer on it that is just lovely.  LOL
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: PolarBear on November 28, 2009, 10:34:14 AM
Yuuuuuuuummy!  Mmmmmmm... chum boogers!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: M_ray on November 28, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
You know you guys of coarse your friends will think its great cause they don't know any difference???  :dunno: If it was so great how come in the land of Salmon the winner of the Anchorage state fair every year is smoked King??? If you had them all lined up on a table you as outdoorsman would pick the King, Coho or possibly the Sockeye every time ... I doubt very much any of you would pick the Chum as the best smoked fish on the planet. Does that mean it doesn't smoke well at times? NO! Does that mean it's no good at times? NO!

The bottom line is if you smoke a turd ... it's still a turd!  :crap:

who said anything about it being the best smoked fish on the planet? no one said anything about that, its worth smoking and worth eating :twocents:

Don't get all excited there houndhunter I didn't single you out I mearly made the comment as in general! There are many post's as well as yours on here defending the quality of Chum and I gave my  :twocents: I have caught thousands of these and other fish and personally I wouldnt even feed it to my dog but that's just me.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: jackelope on November 28, 2009, 10:58:34 AM
Smoked alot of it myself.  It eats just fine if its fresh.   Want to see something cool, fillet one and stick it in the freezer.  The glands continue to secrete mucous and it will form a green mucous booger layer on it that is just lovely.  LOL

kinda makes them that much more appetizing there, Bone.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: KillerBeee on November 28, 2009, 06:47:55 PM
Try one from the Nisqually. You might be surprised....
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: tomy salami on November 28, 2009, 11:42:06 PM
Takes the same amount of time to whack a silver, this time of year.

Surly to taste better......You will be surprised, especially if you compare it to chum.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: ICEMAN on November 29, 2009, 03:32:55 PM
...The bottom line is if you smoke a turd ... it's still a turd!  :crap:

I have done this....well close.... at a young age, I placed a whole (gutted) mudhen into my smoker with some salmon I was smoking.....not good.  :puke:

 :jacked:
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: Jamieb on November 29, 2009, 10:05:10 PM
I've thought about keeping a couple of dog hens for the eggs and then try to give the fish away but I dont know anybody I dislike enough to try and give them a chum.
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 30, 2009, 08:39:38 AM
oh cmon guys, if they're bright they really aren't bad eating.

a little wisdom:  a lot of people that don't care for the stronger tasting salmon(chinook especially) really like chums.  i've never had problems giving the meat away, if i don't eat it myself.

of course, i live out in the harbor now where the chums sort of seem to be going extinct...i haven't caught a single one this year!
Title: Re: chum?
Post by: fishcrazy on November 30, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
Try one from the Nisqually. You might be surprised....


If I was going to eat one it would be from this river. The only Chums that are actually bright and allot of guys mistake them for silvers.

They ain't  bad smoked if they are in good shape to start.

Like Salami said would rather eat a silver!! But fishing isn't always about getting something to eat. Useally it's just about having a good time with a friend.

Kris
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