Post by: elk311 on October 26, 2009, 02:04:08 PM
What gives :dunno: I mean do any of you really think that it's YOUR campsite just because you used it a couple of times or made it more "homie". I don't care if your ancestors used the place during the Ice Age to hump gorillas, it's PUBLIC LAND !
Please give me one good reason why we should have let them have thier campsite back. :bash:
Just to make the picture clear we are not a wild partying group. A couple of wall tents, some hunting gear and a fire-pit. No radio's or shooting in or near camp just hunters and good neighbors.
Post by: gasman on October 26, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
If i get there first then to bad :tung:
Post by: TEX-X on October 26, 2009, 02:10:35 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 26, 2009, 02:20:19 PM
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Post by: elk311 on October 26, 2009, 02:28:18 PM
First come First serve... We have camped in the same spot for 10 years and last year it was taken. We were not very happy about it but what can you do . we moved on to another spot.
Exactly, that's what we would do. The only way to prevent that is get there earlier or set up like many people do and leave. I have no problem with someone setting up thier gear and marking thier spot this way. I only hope that people are honest enough to leave it alone. I for one am not that trusting, not to mention I work too hard for the money that buys the equipment.
Thanks for your replies. Glad to know I wasn't missing something from my upbringing. Other people obviously are !
Post by: elk311 on October 26, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
well you didn't have to take shipmate out....I just checked my shoe polish and my gig line....we're GTG
old habit... I didn't like it in there either, it just comes out when I'm PO'd :dunno:
Post by: sako223 on October 26, 2009, 04:26:40 PM
Post by: fremont on October 26, 2009, 07:25:53 PM
People show up after you have set up camp and begin to explain how this is "thier site" or what they've done to "improve" the site and fully expect us to move out of thier way. This is all on public National Forest land. :yike: Heck, I'll even go one further that happend this month. We made up our camp in a nice area and several people stopped by to say "your neighbors aren't going to like the fact that you are camped here".Not surprising but that doesn't make them less of an idiot. Unbelievable. Can you imagine the stones needed to tell someone to move because you've been there the year before? T.S.
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Post by: gasman on October 27, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
if you parked and walked around to hunt, they were ok, just did not want people camping or driving where they hunted.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on October 27, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
Post by: gasman on October 27, 2009, 01:46:14 PM
I would love to go up early and set camp but i am not a rich man so I cannot afford to leave stuff alone like that.
I picked up a cheap tent from Walmart and put it up to save our camp spot.
I too am afraid that someone will come along and steel or vandalise my stuff, so nly leave the cheap stuff that can easly be replaced.
Post by: bankwalker on October 27, 2009, 02:21:30 PM
i know my buddies have been using the same camp site for about 15 years. and last year a group of guys who always talked about how nice my buddies camp was set up had went to took it 2 weeks before the season started. and again this year.
so now my buddies have to find a new spot.
in most areas you get to know people by thier camp spot. its a yearly thing to see the same guys camped in the same spots. and for one of the other "groups" to steal your "spot" is just disrespectful. plain and simple.
BUT if its some new people in the area, and they take your spot then that is completely different.
Post by: Hillbilly270 on October 27, 2009, 02:33:34 PM
I would love to go up early and set camp but i am not a rich man so I cannot afford to leave stuff alone like that.
I picked up a cheap tent from Walmart and put it up to save our camp spot.
I too am afraid that someone will come along and steel or vandalise my stuff, so nly leave the cheap stuff that can easly be replaced.
almost sounds like getting to a hunting spot first so you can hunt it.
Post by: gasman on October 27, 2009, 04:17:31 PM
I would love to go up early and set camp but i am not a rich man so I cannot afford to leave stuff alone like that.
I picked up a cheap tent from Walmart and put it up to save our camp spot.
I too am afraid that someone will come along and steel or vandalise my stuff, so nly leave the cheap stuff that can easly be replaced.
almost sounds like getting to a hunting spot first so you can hunt it.
There is a big differance between this thread, and your thread from yesterday.
Post by: georgia redneck on October 27, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 27, 2009, 06:21:16 PM
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Whoever got their first and set up camp was the first one we tried to get a buck for.:yike:
I hope your not party hunting.
Post by: billythekidrock on October 27, 2009, 07:40:35 PM
QuoteWhoever got their first and set up camp was the first one we tried to get a buck for.:yike:
I hope your not party hunting.
Let's not jump to conclusions.
Ever heard of putting some one in the best spot for a drive or an ambush? What about multiple guys glassing and giving the first shot to some one other then the spotter?
Just a couple ways to help someone get a buck.
Post by: mtbeav on October 27, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
Post by: passing-thru on October 27, 2009, 08:59:44 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on October 27, 2009, 10:26:53 PM
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QuoteNot jumping to conclusions, just making an observation.
Whoever got their first and set up camp was the first one we tried to get a buck for.
I hope your not party hunting.
Let's not jump to conclusions.
Ever heard of putting some one in the best spot for a drive or an ambush? What about multiple guys glassing and giving the first shot to some one other then the spotter?
Just a couple ways to help someone get a buck.
I have nothing against helping someone, just remembering a different post and commenting, hense the "hope" part.
Post by: Yelm hunter on October 27, 2009, 11:50:46 PM
We had someone try that to us a couple years ago. Actually my 1st year out elk hunting and they said to get out of there site or they were going to shoot us... LOL to bad they didn't know that we had a off duty gamewarden in our party that was helping us set up camp... He called for back up and the whole group of guys got arrested lost there right to hunt & fish, and drive on state forest land & public land... They were also forced to give over all there guns and ammo and the truck that the guy was driving... The same truck is now used for a WDFW only truck...
Some people just better watch what they are saying out there in the woods these days!!
Post by: Broken Arrow on October 28, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
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Post by: MichaelJ on October 28, 2009, 06:25:29 PM
Michael
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Post by: ribka on October 30, 2009, 07:04:54 AM
It is public and it is first come first serve
Post by: littletoes on October 31, 2009, 11:31:32 AM
I don't care who camps where, or who got there first. Its a "non-issue" if you ask me, but what I DO think is rather ratty, when somebody camps in the middle of a road, blocking it and entry into/onto an entire range in an attempt to keep folks out.
This hasn't happened to me in a long while, but I've a friend who turned some folks in who do this every year, and guess what? Fish and Game, combined with the National Forest Service towed thier trailers and all there stuff down to an impound yard.
Guess whoes getting a rude awakening this elk season? They came, chained thier trailers to trees and left. Now they have to face criminal charges, guess F & G thought it wasn't right either.
Good Luck out there guys, be Safe, and be Curtious to others!
Post by: becker on November 01, 2009, 07:13:44 PM
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I do agree that it is public land an you can set up where ever u damn please. However if it's a obvious established well maintained and groomed campsite, there is such a thing called common courtesy. thank you
People can groom it all they want, how the heck do I know what they groomed it for. Might have been for summer camping, grouse hunting archery, deer or maybe elk camp and I got there 1st.
We have our spots, We get them year after year.. But in all honesty. Not every year.
BFD!
Public land, if you are not their when I get there I will set up.
Kinda like duck hunters who want to go out and spend weekends building a duck blind.
Weekend after weekend this blind was not used. On public land.
On day I set up, started hunting. About 2 hours into shooting hours 2 guys show up in a boat. I have my full spread out.
They demanded I leave.
LOL
I invited them to hunt with me, they said no I have to leave. They even said they would call the cops if I did not.
I left steamed.
Hunted that same blind a few more time that year, and some days they beat me their.
And man oh man. they were steamed again when the area I picked got better shooting. Might have been my calling or my spread, or Karma...
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Post by: dbllunger on November 02, 2009, 07:54:20 PM
This year we scouted out several possible camping spots as we were hunting a new unit. We ended up in one of the locations and it was a absolute pig stye with garbage, old tents, archery target, clam shells, and broken bottles laying all around. It was filled with a camp during archery season so we had no idea. It also had a nice *censored*ter built over the hill obviously many years ago. When we left litterally we cleaned the entire area, covered the *censored*ter with our tarp, and even the gamie commented on how it was cleaned up. F'n DB's give us all a bad name, so typical American we took care of the Welfare Bums.
Post by: Yelm hunter on September 10, 2010, 12:42:50 AM
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Post by: teal101 on September 10, 2010, 09:54:02 AM
QuoteI do agree that it is public land an you can set up where ever u damn please. However if it's a obvious established well maintained and groomed campsite, there is such a thing called common courtesy. thank you
People can groom it all they want, how the heck do I know what they groomed it for. Might have been for summer camping, grouse hunting archery, deer or maybe elk camp and I got there 1st.
We have our spots, We get them year after year.. But in all honesty. Not every year.
BFD!
Public land, if you are not their when I get there I will set up.
Kinda like duck hunters who want to go out and spend weekends building a duck blind.
Weekend after weekend this blind was not used. On public land.
On day I set up, started hunting. About 2 hours into shooting hours 2 guys show up in a boat. I have my full spread out.
They demanded I leave.
LOL
I invited them to hunt with me, they said no I have to leave. They even said they would call the cops if I did not.
I left steamed.
Hunted that same blind a few more time that year, and some days they beat me their.
And man oh man. they were steamed again when the area I picked got better shooting. Might have been my calling or my spread, or Karma...
State land? Read him page 30 of the regs and tell him to call the cops. Un-attended blinds are available to the public on a first come first serve basis.
Post by: fishm@n on September 10, 2010, 12:21:18 PM
I'm interested to know what the rules are regarding "reserving" a site by saying throwing up a tent a week or longer before the opener and leaving it there. I've seen horse hunters do this weeks in advance setting up a wall tent and leaving it unoccupied for weeks on public land. I know you can't do this in the wilderness, but what about national forest land?
Post by: boneaddict on September 10, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Post by: robmill70 on September 10, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
Post by: Buckmark on September 10, 2010, 01:06:42 PM
I know hunter etiquette out out with rifle guys, mostly with muzzle loaders, but i thought there was still some among us bow hunters......Your kidding right? That is one of the most pretentious statments i have seen on this site....
Post by: boneaddict on September 10, 2010, 01:09:13 PM
Though sympathetic to his plight I was afraid to comment. :)
Post by: CP on September 10, 2010, 01:24:19 PM
But sometimes I hunt with a muzzleloader so you know all about my etiquette. If I find your trail maybe I’ll run my dog down it and shoot a few grouse off it. You didn’t mention shotgun hunters but I suspect that we are the worst of all.
Post by: robmill70 on September 10, 2010, 01:40:20 PM
Post by: Holg3107 on September 10, 2010, 01:42:38 PM
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I had 2 hunters walk up my trail yesterday....do you think they turned around when the saw me...NO! They came up started talking loud and then proceeded down my trail. I know hunter etiquette out out with rifle guys, mostly with muzzle loaders, but i thought there was still some among us bow hunters......public land, first come first serve!
that is one of the most rediculous things ive ever read. Its public land.... I hunt public land, see people all the time, lifes a whole lot easier if you just stop and talk see what each others plans are and try and not F* up each others hunts. I've only lived in WA for 2 years but if theirs one thing that Ive learned when it comes to hunting in this state if its public and you can drive to it, you wont be alone. suck it up and quit complaining. At least you knew there was someone else hunting the same area. 10 mins before or after you would have had no idea and they would have walked in anyways.
Post by: robmill70 on September 10, 2010, 01:49:18 PM
:o
Also, nice to see every exception to the rule answer back.....I like how CP states he's got good etiquette but would run his dog up someone's trail and blast some birds....nice!
Post by: CP on September 10, 2010, 01:52:51 PM
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Post by: demontang on September 10, 2010, 02:21:17 PM
Post by: BlackRidge on September 10, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
Turds are equally distributed across all hunting methodolgies (all hobbies actually). There is just a smaller overall pool of bow hunters so you are less likley to run into one.
Yup, and modern FA's will be the worst because its the biggest group. But I agree, hunter etiquette in the field seems to be rare nowadays
Post by: boneaddict on September 10, 2010, 02:24:52 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on September 10, 2010, 05:55:46 PM
Turds are equally distributed across all hunting methodolgies (all hobbies actually). There is just a smaller overall pool of bow hunters so you are less likley to run into one.
Rob, you just sold me on bowhunting.... the turd factor... :chuckle:
Post by: alecvg on September 10, 2010, 06:44:03 PM
I liked "my trail"
Though sympathetic to his plight I was afraid to comment. :)
I was thinking the same! I had this a few years ago during rifle season. A trail, with our camp within sight of it, and a fire going. Guy walks by our camp in the dark and stops in the trail a quarter mile past us. So when we come walking up the trail, planning to cut off a mile out, this guy is standing there telling us we can't go past him in the dark. That this was "His" trail, and he proceeded with cussing us out. :stup:
Post by: ICEMAN on September 10, 2010, 06:54:18 PM
I was hoping they would atleast wait so someone could look/see for a bull or not...but they had other plans...
I have decided not to blast thru an area that guys were working elk. Hoped they were going to do the same.
Post by: Jingles on November 20, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
14 x 17 wall tent, Food tent and out house facilities, chop & stack firewood clean and rebuild fire pit,
check all the ropes for game pole and clear the trail to my favorite ambush spot.
Also set up Trail cam to take pictures of the camp, tent and main trail 9in and out of the area..
Do I worry? Not really because in order to get to my spot you're gonna need horses
The average wet side hunter isn't going to hike in 8 miles and have to ford 2 creeks
I've been doing it now for close to 10 years and have only had problems 1 time from tree huggers.
(Trail Cam Pictures)
I usually leave food available in one of my dry food boxes and actually invite those that visit to make
use of the food and drink if they need it.... Knock on wood I haven't been burned yet.
Hell to be honest I'd almost appreciate someone coming back and visiting sometime
give me some company as I'm usually back there by myself.
Post by: Huntbear on November 20, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
No one has ever messed with our set up ... but then it is about 40 miles from the nearest phone... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: dscubame on November 20, 2011, 01:36:14 PM
Well....I understand that , but if someone reading it has good hunter etiquette it doesn't apply to them. I did say most, not all muzzle loader....and I have hunted muzzle for years (I should post a record black tail I got with muzzle loader)...but had to go bow because of the number of jack @$$E$ out there
I understood exactly what you were saying and could not agree more. I know how pissed I get when someone does that when I am on "my hunt". Especially when that damn 4 wheeler sees you after you been walking in 5 plus miles behind that gate. Yes the 4 wheeler is "allowed" but courtesy says go back and take that previous left or right turn.
Remember on this website there are alot of "keyboard" hunters and occasionally you will get responses that show their true colors and lack of experience in the woods. Most of the time it is a response that indicates clearly they do not know what you are referring too. Experience in the woods theyare lacking in response to your post so you get such responses. Don't take it personally and it won't be the last time it happens.
I am speaking generally and not about any specific person on here.