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Title: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on October 27, 2009, 08:01:53 AM: ...

Nearing completion. Osage, Hickory and yew handle.

about 65lbs @ 28 inches and OAL 70 inches.
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: markts on October 27, 2009, 08:04:10 AM: Very nice. What finish do you put on them :dunno:. Mark
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Post by: ribka on October 27, 2009, 08:10:18 AM: Very pretty and looks well designed. I love osage. Lots of character
Where do you get your osage staves?

What type of glue for the handle lams?

What tiller typically on a bow like this?
Sorry for so many questions
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Post by: Datbowhunter on October 27, 2009, 08:20:08 AM: Very cool!! 8) do you make many bows? Where do you find your materials?
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Post by: Ray on October 27, 2009, 08:58:36 AM: Tru Oil is what I am going to use for finish. I put a little coat on last night.

I got this osage stick from http://3riversarchery.com but you might also be able to get them from http://raptorarchery.com

The glue I used for gluing this up was Smooth On EA 40 (http://www.3riversarchery.com/Glue+Adhesives+Specialty++Smooth-On+EA-40+Bow_c59_s76_p0_i4458_product.html) Often times if it's a less oily wood like Ipe I will use a cheaper glue like Nelson Urac 185 (http://nelsonpaint.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Urac-QT&Category_Code=UA) by the pint. Urac 185 is real good stuff and it comes with a powdery mixture. Don't get any on your skin. I think it has some real bad stuff in it.

What I have been doing is using a belt sander to remove a great deal of wood from the handle and limbs. Then I will use a simple cabinet scraper to tiller the limbs. For the arrow rest I used a combination of a belt sander, a hand file and sandpaper.
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: ribka on October 27, 2009, 09:51:57 AM: Thanks for the info
Ever try gluing on some type of horn on the limb tips?
Put snake kin on the limbs? I tried this once and had a difficult time keeping the snake skin glued to the limbs

Again nice work
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on October 27, 2009, 10:03:03 AM: Never tried snake skins.

What is on this bow are actually real horn tips.
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Post by: bow4elk on October 27, 2009, 10:22:52 AM: Quote from: ribka on October 27, 2009, 09:51:57 AM
Thanks for the info
Ever try gluing on some type of horn on the limb tips?
Put snake kin on the limbs? I tried this once and had a difficult time keeping the snake skin glued to the limbs

Again nice work

My buddy Joe in Oregon does snake skins on his vine maple selfbows, and they turn out really well. PM me if you guys want to get in touch with him. He's spent some time with John Strunk and picked up some great tips/tricks.

Nice work, Ray!!! I need to get back into it this winter!
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on October 27, 2009, 10:27:53 AM: Some guys put sturgeon skins on too.

You could check out Primitivearcher.com there's a lot of bow builds there. Including by the step snake skin and sturgeon skin instructions.
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Post by: bow4elk on October 27, 2009, 10:30:21 AM: I think my buddy Joe did the snake skin build-along out there. I used to live on that site before I found this one ;)
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Post by: whacker1 on October 27, 2009, 10:56:18 AM: Ray, you are getting into the several bows a year mode - how many bows will be enough? Or is it the same as guns - no amount is too many?
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Post by: Ray on October 27, 2009, 11:04:28 AM: One for each digit.
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Post by: Hornseeker on October 28, 2009, 03:58:12 PM: Right on Ray! I am about to start working on a boo backed ipe and a boo backed osage 3 piece! Pretty excited about it...never really spent any time working on non glass/carbon stuff!

Hey... there is a "Joe St. Charles" here in Billings... and is some sort of archery guy... is he related to Jay?? Brother???

Ernie
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on October 28, 2009, 04:58:56 PM: Thank you Ernie.

Yeah that is his brother. Joe is a nice fellow. Went shooting in Loring with him about 2 seasons ago.

For some reason I am a little bit cautious about working with bamboo. I just don't feel comfortable with it too much yet. I would build a fiberglass bow but I simply do not have enough money and resources to invest into that yet. I guess one day when I get a larger place it will happen.

I'm going to see if I have time to shoot the bow on friday. I might post some updated photos tonight as I did some minor tidying up already. Put on the finish and a leather arrow rest pad.
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on October 28, 2009, 09:52:27 PM: Got a string on it. Wow this thing is hard to string up. I feel like a sissy.

It's done cosmetically. Next stop... The Range

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Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on November 03, 2009, 07:31:45 PM: Very nice work Ray! WIsh I had the technical ability and patience! Maybe next winter after I retire I'll give it a shot. In the mean time I have a new longbow coming from JD Lund at Whisperstik that should be here in a few weeks.... :IBCOOL: That'll be #3 for me to go with my 2 recurves.... Wife is starting to look at me funny.... :yike:
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 03, 2009, 07:35:05 PM: good lookin bow ray. do you know my friend ted fry at raptor archery. he has a traditional shop in hood river, i buy all my trad gear from him like stone feathers strings shafts
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Post by: Ray on November 03, 2009, 07:48:54 PM: Thanks NWW. I heard those whisperstick's are fine bows. I'd love to see it when you get it.

No, I don't know anyone at Raptor Archery.

I took the bow out this morning and gave it a dozen or so arrows. It was launching them arrows like cruise missiles. I like this one. It turned out at 67 lbs @ 28 inches.
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on November 04, 2009, 09:29:49 AM: Ray,
Here are pics of it being built...
Title: Re: Another bow falling out of the sawdust pile
Post by: Ray on November 04, 2009, 09:39:07 AM: That looks neat. What kind of wood is he/she using?
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on November 04, 2009, 09:44:04 AM: Bamboo core, it is myrtle wood, figured bubinga and osage ( I think).