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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: 300ShortMag on November 04, 2009, 06:42:36 AM

Title: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: 300ShortMag on November 04, 2009, 06:42:36 AM: Does anyone have information or a link to the state record entries for California Bighorn sheep? I'm looking for information that'll tell me what the minimum score is for the yearly book as well as a breakdown of the top 10 Cali's in WA.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: jackelope on November 04, 2009, 08:03:04 AM: there's a post on a different thread saying the record is 164 and change
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: pat2bear on November 04, 2009, 08:10:36 AM: Closest I have found is this. Minimum scores, 150 rifle, 140 archery, 136 muzzle.
http://www.nwbiggame.com/
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: 300ShortMag on November 04, 2009, 09:04:41 AM: Thanks, guys. Hunted with a couple of lucky dogs yesterday in the Clemans unit and we knocked down a monster. Green scored him and it looks like he'll go over 165. Won't know for sure until it's official.

I know, I know.....pics. This wasn't my hunt and won't post pics unless I get approval from the hunter.

Stay tuned.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: jackelope on November 04, 2009, 09:16:15 AM: it wasn't coachcw was it?
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 09:19:18 AM: No. Coach is hunting right now.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: M_ray on November 04, 2009, 09:36:24 AM: Quote from: jackelope on November 04, 2009, 09:16:15 AM
it wasn't coachcw was it?

Sources tell me coach passed yesterday so it wasn't him.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Ridgerunner on November 04, 2009, 09:53:21 AM: state record for rifle is 182 I believe.

We want to see some pics though. Get permission, quickly.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 10:19:05 AM: I'm pretty sure I have pics of it... :'(
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Elkstuffer on November 04, 2009, 10:54:43 AM: Coach left me a message last night. He's going ram crazy he said. Seeing lots of sheep. He's coming over tonight to look at a couple rams that I have in the shop.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: pat2bear on November 04, 2009, 11:09:35 AM: You gonna show him my baby ram huh? :chuckle: No, I'm stoked about mine. The only thing I regret is not using my front stuffer. 60 yard shot. :DOH:
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 04, 2009, 11:11:12 AM: man i am going crazy and i don't have a tag i want some pictures or i might start crying :chuckle:
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on November 04, 2009, 11:33:22 AM: 1) - 182 6/8
2) - 181 0/8
3) - 177 6/8
4) - 177 5/8
5) - 175 4/8
6) - 174 7/8
7) - 173 3/8
8) - 173 2/8
9) - 167 6/8
10) - 166 5/8

If its the one Pope is thinking of it should move into the top 9.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: 300ShortMag on November 04, 2009, 11:41:35 AM: Thanks for the Top 10 breakdown. They were getting him plugged today and in to the freezer asap. I guess we'll see.

Sorry about the lack of pics, guys--I know it's part of the Ten Commandments around here.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 12:36:15 PM: Are those gross or net records? That ram probably won't net well.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on November 04, 2009, 12:41:54 PM: It doesn't give net or gross it only has the measurements and Final Score.

Interesting that the #1 only has a spread credit of 20 7/8, almost 4" shorter than #2 and 5" shorter than #3
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Elkstuffer on November 04, 2009, 12:48:54 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on November 04, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
It doesn't give net or gross it only has the measurements and Final Score.

Interesting that the #1 only has a spread credit of 20 7/8, almost 4" shorter than #2 and 5" shorter than #3

I don't know why they even list spread on sheep since it doesn't count in the final score :dunno:
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: pat2bear on November 04, 2009, 01:35:46 PM: Quote from: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 12:36:15 PM
Are those gross or net records? That ram probably won't net well.
Pretty sure those are net scores pope. Looks like they're using B&C score sheets with the deductions. I could be wrong though.
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Post by: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 01:49:34 PM: Net is bs with sheep. I like the spread measurement because it helps to visualizE the ram and guess mass.
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Post by: andrew_12gauge on November 04, 2009, 02:00:47 PM: not sure if my dads ram will be entered or not, he was going to enter it but because he had had it in the freezer had to wait, now im not sure if he will but if he does it will be #8 or 9 not sure
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Dry creek on November 04, 2009, 02:24:55 PM: tucannon sheep do not count they are cross breads with rocky mountain
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on November 04, 2009, 02:38:45 PM: Quote from: Dry creek on November 04, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
tucannon sheep do not count they are cross breads with rocky mountain

Yeah, supposedly they won't go over the ridge top and mingle with other herds...lol. They are trying to work out the cali influence in that herd but I'm not sure how that's coming.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: ramslam on November 04, 2009, 03:27:54 PM: Most sheep have little difference between gross and net score compared to other species since only the differences in circumferences (and not lengths) are deductions.

If all goes as planned a Rocky transplant will occur in the Tucannon later this winter.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: GurrCentral on October 25, 2013, 01:53:52 PM: I know this is a very old thread, but here is some info... there are now a few to add from the last few years, and even a couple from earlier than 2009.

http://www.nwbiggame.com/top_10.cfm (http://www.nwbiggame.com/top_10.cfm)

If you enter Washington and California Bighorn sheep you will see the top ten.

Quote from: huntnphool on November 04, 2009, 11:33:22 AM
1) - 182 6/8
2) - 181 0/8
3) - 177 6/8
4) - 177 5/8
5) - 175 4/8
6) - 174 7/8
7) - 173 3/8
8) - 173 2/8
9) - 167 6/8
10) - 166 5/8

If its the one Pope is thinking of it should move into the top 9.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 03:15:45 PM: I think it will change again this year. 8)
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: GurrCentral on October 25, 2013, 03:30:36 PM: And probly most years to come!
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: whuppinstick on October 25, 2013, 03:57:02 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
I think it will change again this year. 8)

Mine's not listed in there - how do I get it listed? I think it would be #6.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: jackelope on October 25, 2013, 03:58:41 PM: Quote from: whuppinstick on October 25, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
I think it will change again this year. 8)

Mine's not listed in there - how do I get it listed? I think it would be #6.

Have it officially scored at one of the Sportsmens shows or by an official measurer. I think Bow4Elk Tom Ryle is/was a measurer, then I think you pay the $20 and have it entered?
Something along those lines.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 04:02:37 PM: Quote from: jackelope on October 25, 2013, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: whuppinstick on October 25, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Quote from: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
I think it will change again this year. 8)

Mine's not listed in there - how do I get it listed? I think it would be #6.

Have it officially scored at one of the Sportsmens shows or by an official measurer. I think Bow4Elk Tom Ryle is/was a measurer, then I think you pay the $20 and have it entered?
Something along those lines.
I dont see Clintworth in there either. :dunno:
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 26, 2013, 02:14:04 PM: My ram should be in there, I paid the $20! I believe when I killed him he was around 6, but I'd be lucky to be in the top ten now, lol.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: dingle on November 01, 2013, 07:41:44 AM: The one thing that will always be cool about yours, Brian is it is the first Ram taken on the butte. Going along on mine stands out with Me, Have a great day.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 01, 2013, 07:48:39 AM: Quote from: huntnphool on October 25, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
I think it will change again this year. 8)

I see Casey Brooks on this list. I think he had a whole slug of Boone & Crocket and Pope & Young awards under his belt.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: muleracks on November 10, 2013, 09:50:03 AM: Aaron Roth's CA bighorn from the Swakane unit (Chelan County) rifle 2010 was reportedly a World Record. Seems like his ram would be the State Record as well. The ram taken this year from the Swakane is nearly as big. Here are photos of Aaron's ram.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: muleracks on November 10, 2013, 09:52:43 AM: Another Aaron Roth (World Record) ram photo.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on November 15, 2013, 07:36:24 PM: Quote from: muleracks on November 10, 2013, 09:50:03 AM
Aaron Roth's CA bighorn from the Swakane unit (Chelan County) rifle 2010 was reportedly a World Record. Seems like his ram would be the State Record as well. The ram taken this year from the Swakane is nearly as big.
What is your definition of "nearly"?
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: elk247 on November 15, 2013, 08:04:55 PM: Who did the pedistal mount on aarons ram?
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Eli346 on November 16, 2013, 09:27:38 AM: Those records posted are from the Northwest Big Game Record Book that is at the Puyallup Sportsmen's Show every winter. If it's not measured and recorded there it won't be in their book. I'm sure there are bigger and better out there than what's listed in their books but that's what they go by. It's a lot easier and cheaper to get it in the NW book than the Boone and Crockett. I put my bear in there but I don't think I'll put it in B&C just because of all the hoops you have to jump through and the extra money. By the way, I think the NW Big Game Book is represented at most of the sportsmen shows around the NW. I think they cover CA, Ore, Id, and WA.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: boneaddict on November 16, 2013, 09:36:15 AM: I think Aarons record will hold in Washington forever. Unless for some reason they close a unit down again for several years. Every ram that is even potentially as big is accounted for and tagged in short order.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: bearpaw on November 16, 2013, 09:48:43 AM: awesome ram :tup:
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: huntnphool on November 16, 2013, 09:58:07 AM: Quote from: Eli346 on November 16, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
It's a lot easier and cheaper to get it in the NW book than the Boone and Crockett.
B&C and P&Y do not recognize Cali Sheep as a seperate species is why, only SCI and individual states do.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Falcon on November 16, 2013, 01:24:24 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on November 16, 2013, 09:36:15 AM
I think Aarons record will hold in Washington forever. Unless for some reason they close a unit down again for several years. Every ram that is even potentially as big is accounted for and tagged in short order.

I agree.

I doubt that record will ever be broken in Wa.
Title: Re: California Bighorn State Record for WA?
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 20, 2013, 04:02:58 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on November 16, 2013, 09:36:15 AM
I think Aarons record will hold in Washington forever. Unless for some reason they close a unit down again for several years. Every ram that is even potentially as big is accounted for and tagged in short order.

You know it... It's going to sit at the top of the pile for a looooong time. :tup:

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