Post by: actionshooter on November 04, 2009, 07:23:46 PM
I couldn't bring myself to do it, but its a good deal if you want some.
Post by: joebear on November 04, 2009, 08:24:31 PM
Post by: actionshooter on November 04, 2009, 08:27:17 PM
thanks man but I am on there guide and prostaff. Bottom line is though is it is the best gear bar none we have used and well worth it!!!!!I agree, I have the 90% and love it. BUT, the Stormfront gear is killing me!! $500 for the jacket. Sorry even at 1/2 price I couldn't do it.
Post by: halflife65 on November 04, 2009, 08:28:59 PM
Post by: littlebuf on November 04, 2009, 08:49:40 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 05, 2009, 10:14:17 AM
Post by: M_ray on November 05, 2009, 10:19:56 AM
Post by: Tony 270WSM on November 05, 2009, 01:13:56 PM
But seriously... how can a price of $460 be justified for a pair of pants??? That's the regular price. $460? For pants???
Are they trying to market their gear towards some elite group of hunters who have money to burn?
Post by: yajsab on November 06, 2009, 09:49:58 AM
Post by: steeleywhopper on November 06, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
Post by: joebear on November 06, 2009, 08:39:21 PM
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
Just to. The price that is at Cabelas at 50%off is the same price we get on the prostaff deal. This gear is exspensive but werth its weight!!
Granted I have not used it, but I've studied it well and for the price, I'm not seeing the value :dunno:. I'm wanting somebody to explain why it's so great, from an in-the-field perspective. I'm a product designer and while I can identify and appreciate the "design" aspects, I'm not seeing the huge value in performance for most hunting conditions. I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences with it.
Post by: joebear on November 06, 2009, 09:13:44 PM
Bow I guess I would have to start with the design it is light weight but hold the warmth well. The water proof gear is great I never liked gortex but this is really working. The fit and finish is better then other camos I have used. I like the idea of being able to buy gear built like mountaineering gear but focused at the hunter. This gear is for the hunter that is hard core and always willing to go the extra mile regardless the weather or the terrain. Sitka works from the 100 degree hunts in Arizona to high hunts in Wyoming and up in the glaciers hunting Dall's sheep. But it is not for everyone and most hunters might never even use it to its fullest.Just to. The price that is at Cabelas at 50%off is the same price we get on the prostaff deal. This gear is exspensive but werth its weight!!
Granted I have not used it, but I've studied it well and for the price, I'm not seeing the value :dunno:. I'm wanting somebody to explain why it's so great, from an in-the-field perspective. I'm a product designer and while I can identify and appreciate the "design" aspects, I'm not seeing the huge value in performance for most hunting conditions. I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences with it.
Post by: bow4elk on November 06, 2009, 09:26:35 PM
The cut and fit of the clothing with regard to movement is a key advantage. I've just found that if I layer polypro, fleece or wool, and some sort of raingear, I'm good for just about any conditions, along with a compressed down vest in my pack. I am a big fan of Cabela's MicroTex fabrics. I'm still wearing the original pants from 2000, and I've added in the ultralight stuff for more early season cooling. I've found that I can hunt in damp, hot, cold, and even rainy weather and stay warm and pretty dry. The microfibers repel water very well while breathing even better, and the fabric is very durable and tear resistant. The fabric dries very fast too, which is nice when damp dewy mornings give way to sunny warmth. Wet pant legs dry very quickly.
So releasing the threadjack side conversation :sry:- sounds like a good deal going at Cabela's for those wanting to try this stuff out!
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 06, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
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Post by: yajsab on November 08, 2009, 08:02:57 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on December 03, 2009, 06:48:06 AM
Shootmoore
Post by: Bearhunter on December 03, 2009, 08:45:51 AM
The fit, is were its at! This stuff fits like a custom glove. I have troubles fitting into a lot of different camo out there it seems there is never a perfect size for me. Sitka has such a variety of sizes to fit just about anyone. The clothing is trim, meaning not big/bulky baggy which is great for us bow hunters. One great option on the 90% pants is the built in removalable suspenders they are great and can be taken off if you dont need them. The waist line inside the pants is wrapped with a ring of a gripping type rubber that works like a charm for keeping your shirt tucked in when crawling, kneeling or any wide range of motion. This is a huge plus! When hunting in Montana in over 1ft of snow all day, my pants never raised up and over my boot tops, resulting in dry boots all day. I never had to wear gators once, while my hunting partner did with his other brand camo. The materials that Sitka uses are so far superior than 90% of the other brands out there. The new Optifade really does work. I have had pictures taken of myself in multiple types of terrain and the optifade blends in all of them when you look at the photos the proof is there. As far a Goretex it is what it always has been waterproof, the best you can get! It may be a little load for bowhunting but the way I look at it, living here in western Washington is: if its a lite ran I were my 90% gear and layer properly, if its a down pour like most of the time I wear my Goretex, besides when its raining that hard the rain makes it hard for even critters to here that well in. On my 3 week trip that I just returned from I brought 2 totes of camo and just couldnt get myself to wear 75% of the other stuff I had with me, once you have Sitka on and used it in the field its really hard to use anything else. :twocents: Give it a try, youll be hooked and have to get a side job! :chuckle:
Post by: joebear on December 03, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 08, 2010, 09:54:28 AM
Which lines for which conditions:
I was looking at the storm front Light pants, the 90% pant, or the ascent. My understanding is that I am best to get a pair of the ascent for the late september and early october stuff. But I was debating between the stormfront, stormfront light, and the 90% pant for late October, November and December.
NE WA, Northern Idaho, and Western Montana is almost all my hunting.
Suggestions?
Post by: Craig on March 08, 2010, 11:10:39 AM
Post by: yajsab on March 08, 2010, 03:17:35 PM
Just couple questions you might want to think about. I have the 90% and Celsius. I hunted in Eastern WA in Sept and usually get cold with my 90% in very early morning. I'm not moving much during that time. With layering, I can hunt (still) comfortably in late season in the Celsius line. The temp is around 25 - 30.
Post by: bullchaser on March 08, 2010, 03:44:30 PM
Post by: yajsab on March 08, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
Post by: MDGrand on April 03, 2010, 04:33:55 PM
I am on the Rivers West Pro Team.. and I have to say, Sitka does not compare to Rivers West gear. The one plus I will give to Sitka is it seems mor form fitting. That being said, if you ever pick up a Rivers West garment, they now have a tag that compares all the top gear from Sitka, Rivers West, Browning, etc.. and Rivers West wins in waterproof, insulation, tear strength and warranty. The owner really invented a great piece of technology here and I have to see ANY Gortex item compete. Gortex is noisy.. and no way around it, any waterproof garment worn while doing a lot of hiking will hold in some persperation and feel a little wet.. but when its raining like hell and I also need to stay warm.. there aint nothing better! I hunt from Alaska, Western WA for Roosevelt Elk and East WA for mule deer and Utah and Idaho for Rocky Mtn Elk.. Each of these places have tested the gear I use.. and again.. nothing beats Rivers West.
Best of all.. Rivers West costs less too.. MUCH less than Sitka. Its also home town Washington company located right off 4th Ave in Seattle.
Check'em out!.. I think you'll agree.
Post by: Wile E. Hunter on April 03, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
Post by: actionshooter on April 03, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
Well, unfortunately, I am going to have to pick a little fight here..
I am on the Rivers West Pro Team.. and I have to say, Sitka does not compare to Rivers West gear. The one plus I will give to Sitka is it seems mor form fitting. That being said, if you ever pick up a Rivers West garment, they now have a tag that compares all the top gear from Sitka, Rivers West, Browning, etc.. and Rivers West wins in waterproof, insulation, tear strength and warranty. The owner really invented a great piece of technology here and I have to see ANY Gortex item compete. Gortex is noisy.. and no way around it, any waterproof garment worn while doing a lot of hiking will hold in some persperation and feel a little wet.. but when its raining like hell and I also need to stay warm.. there aint nothing better! I hunt from Alaska, Western WA for Roosevelt Elk and East WA for mule deer and Utah and Idaho for Rocky Mtn Elk.. Each of these places have tested the gear I use.. and again.. nothing beats Rivers West.
Best of all.. Rivers West costs less too.. MUCH less than Sitka. Its also home town Washington company located right off 4th Ave in Seattle.
Check'em out!.. I think you'll agree.
I bought Rivers West when it came out, then I bought Sitka gear and sold my rivers west for CHEAP just to get it out of my closet, but with all your experience I was probably wrong :dunno:
Post by: MDGrand on April 03, 2010, 06:51:23 PM
Curious though.. did you ever actually try your Rivers West gear before changing to Sitka?
And let me add...I am not saying Sitka gear is not good.. it is, hell it better be for the price! But, Rivers West, which just happens to be a little harder to find because its a smaller company makes something more affordable and in many areas beats Sitka. Just my extremely biased opinion.
Post by: JoeVon on April 03, 2010, 07:09:18 PM
Post by: Curly on April 03, 2010, 07:36:33 PM
Post by: MDGrand on April 04, 2010, 12:27:19 PM
The Rivers "Wet" stuff that I owned along with the stuff my buddies had leaked pretty bad. The remedy from Rivers "Wet" was to run rubber cement down the sewed seams on the insides of the jacket, which was pretty much useless after a few washes. It was also a little to heavy for my liking...
You're the first person I have ever hear of calling Rivers West as "Rivers Wet." Well.. I suppose there are a few isoloated experiences everyone has. And to each his own.. But for me, Gortex has not lived up to its name.. its noisy, I dont like how Gortex items feel like a thin tarp and its not durrable and can rip. So , I choose Rivers West stuff.. mainly because even if something did happen, they have a 10 year guarantee and a "loaner for life" program.. I have yet to see any hunting clothing manufacturer come to the table with that kind of guarantee.. now that is standing behind your product!
Post by: yajsab on April 05, 2010, 12:44:54 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 05, 2010, 12:59:53 PM
Sitka is now my camo of choice.
I still use the Rivers West, around the campfire after the hunt and after the Sitka is removed and put away.