Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 01:18:32 PM
Okay this thread is for all those that get on here looking for info on where to go and where they should apply.
ITS TIME!!!!!!
Get off the damn sofa, turn off the TV and get out there and scout. Just because your hunt is over doesn't mean you can't be out there locating where the animals are. Right now is when you are most likely to see deer. You should be out getting ideas on where to apply for the late tags, where to go for the general season next year etc. Grab a camera, grab a daypack and get out there and look.
There should be no reason to have a post asking where you should go for your Entiat late tag, go look now while the deer are out there and you will know where to go when you draw. There is no time like the present, lets be pro active rather than reactive, it will save a lot of this :bash: ;)
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 10, 2009, 01:21:41 PM
Post by: saylean on November 10, 2009, 01:24:31 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 01:29:22 PM
What if I already know where I am going and there are alot of deer there. :dunno: :chuckle:
Then you will be the guy we tell them to PM when the inevitable question comes. :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on November 10, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
Post by: WAPITIHUNTER on November 10, 2009, 01:37:06 PM
Post by: quadrafire on November 10, 2009, 01:49:44 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 01:58:22 PM
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So keep busy and give me something to read on the web.
Will do brother, keep drooling over all the pics ;)
Post by: quadrafire on November 10, 2009, 02:03:12 PM
I do! you should see my keyboard.
Post by: wastickslinger on November 10, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
I will give them coordinates that lead to the nearest garbage dump!!! :chuckle:
Hey I have seen some of the biggest bucks in this state at a dump. ;) Too bad its a reserve. :chuckle:
Post by: C-Money on November 10, 2009, 04:40:59 PM
Post by: lemondog on November 10, 2009, 05:12:49 PM
Post by: patton1 on November 10, 2009, 05:15:27 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
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So my question is, "Is it not OK to ask for help or tips on this site
Absolutely patton1!!! Everybody loves to help out, the point is there are people that apply for permits every year that have never been in the areas they apply for. Instead they wait until they find out they have drawn and then rely on everyone else to tell them where to go.
The point of the thread was that right now is the perfect time to hit those units you apply for or want to hunt, before you find out you draw, so you will know where the animals are at in those units and you're not walking around blind and relying on others.
Post by: Bob33 on November 10, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
I think the answer is that it is OK to ask. However, some hunters (well, that term is probably an overstatement) are obviously lazy and want to be spoon fed. I know several. Sooner or later that becomes obvious, and they should not expect to be helped.
Someone such as yourself: in the military, not lazy, etc.: that becomes obvious also, and there's not a soul here (better not be) who wouldn't help someone like that.
Post by: mossback91 on November 10, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
:'(
Post by: runamuk on November 10, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
The title lies!!!!!!! all lies!!!!
:'(
:yeah:
so is it supposed to be the rut right now or what I have seen a bunch of does in the last week and not 1 buck even my resident buck seems to be awol
Post by: patton1 on November 10, 2009, 05:43:18 PM
Post by: alecvg on November 10, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
Who wants to gas up my truck....maybe the person who wants that free info :bdid: :)
I will gas up your truck for some info! ;)
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 10, 2009, 06:10:59 PM
Who wants to gas up my truck....maybe the person who wants that free info :bdid: :)
Dang Bones from the pictures that I see you take and the amount of wildlife, Crap brother I will buy you a new truck!!!!! :chuckle:
I am heading to the Chewelah / colville area Friday, so just maybe you should spoon feed me some spots on where I should try!!!!!! But it's ok I can find them I got my quad all gassed up!!! ;)
Post by: Savage3006 on November 10, 2009, 06:20:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2009, 06:26:33 PM
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Dang Bones from the pictures that I see you take and the amount of wildlife, Crap brother I will buy you a new truck!!!!!
Better make sure it has a cattle guard attached to the front end :rolleyes:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 10, 2009, 07:21:45 PM
But the point should be well taken; if you want to see what survived the season in your hunting spot (mule deer anyway), go look now. It will really open your eyes to how many crafty old bucks are never taken. A lot of us think we know our hunting areas cold, and that we scouted them to death, and that nothing could have survived that modern firearm season onslaught, but November is the reality check...
Post by: Buckmania on November 10, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Post by: Backstrap on November 10, 2009, 07:53:52 PM
QuoteSo my question is, "Is it not OK to ask for help or tips on this site
Absolutely patton1!!! Everybody loves to help out, the point is there are people that apply for permits every year that have never been in the areas they apply for. Instead they wait until they find out they have drawn and then rely on everyone else to tell them where to go.
The point of the thread was that right now is the perfect time to hit those units you apply for or want to hunt, before you find out you draw, so you will know where the animals are at in those units and you're not walking around blind and relying on others.
Yeah, right. We're supposed to guess which four units we'll apply for next year, and then go scout them all. Hoping to someday draw one. That makes lots of sense.
If you don't like to share info, that's your perogative, but I think you may be confusing laziness with common sense.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 10, 2009, 07:56:22 PM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 13, 2009, 09:18:41 PM
Post by: Grizzly95 on November 13, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 13, 2009, 09:48:18 PM
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Yeah, right. We're supposed to guess which four units we'll apply for next year, and then go scout them all. Hoping to someday draw one. That makes lots of sense.
If you don't like to share info, that's your perogative, but I think you may be confusing laziness with common sense.
You're the type of person I'm talking about. You expect to sit home and surf the internet for the all the info you need before applying for a tag, then once drawn expect everyone else to tell you all about it.
If you apply for units next year that you have never scouted out, you have nobody else to blame when your plea for info comes up empty because you instead chose to surf rather than hike. :twocents:
I have no problem sharing info with those that have shown they are willing to do the due diligence it takes to get it done. If you think otherwise I'm sure there are a couple people on this site that will vouch for me about giving out info to help them on their hunts. :twocents:
Post by: bobcat on November 13, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
So where is the time to scout all these units I may never draw? Even if I could afford the gas, I don't have the time. I drew the modern firearm Entiat mule deer permit in 2004. Had never set foot in the unit until then. Ended up with a very nice buck that scored 162 something.
I agree people should be able and willing to do their own scouting and not be spoon fed all the info required to hunt an area successfully. But I see no reason to say that people should not apply for units they have not previously scouted. That's just nothing but :bs:
Post by: huntnphool on November 13, 2009, 10:14:14 PM
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But I see no reason to say that people should not apply for units they have not previously scouted. That's just nothing but
Don't put words in my mouth Bobcat, I didnt say people shouldn't apply for units they havn't scouted now did I? :ass:
Post by: bobcat on November 13, 2009, 10:22:28 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on November 13, 2009, 10:47:06 PM
No, you didn't say it in those words but that's the way I took it. You said people should be out scouting now and learning those units that they might possibly draw in the future, so that they don't need to ask for information on this message board if they do draw it. That's great if a person has the time and money to do so. But otherwise, who wants to spend time and money scouting now in areas they may never get to hunt?
:yeah:
Post by: mossback91 on November 13, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
Just because John Doe did well your gonna apply for the unit??
Post by: billythekidrock on November 13, 2009, 10:53:16 PM
I don't have the money or time to scout North or South Coastal WA or even some of the Eastside units I may apply for. I would hope that for all of my contributions on this site that some one would throw me a bone or two or even the whole honey hole on a permit hunt.
If not, so be it and I eat a tag. Sheeet, for that matter no info, no go. Eat tag and not have to pay for gas. But you can bet if I get drawn for a unit I don't really know......I will be asking for info. That is what this site is about.
Post by: Bob33 on November 13, 2009, 11:02:57 PM
Seems OK to me.
Post by: Bigshooter on November 13, 2009, 11:11:36 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on November 14, 2009, 06:17:15 AM
No, you didn't say it in those words but that's the way I took it. You said people should be out scouting now and learning those units that they might possibly draw in the future, so that they don't need to ask for information on this message board if they do draw it. That's great if a person has the time and money to do so. But otherwise, who wants to spend time and money scouting now in areas they may never get to hunt?
answer to the last question... those of us who live to hunt.
I'll go along with both sides of the argument, I scout a lot of units that I may never draw, I don't have a lot of time or money but hunting is what i do and when I get a chance at something I want to be prepared and it's very rewarding to have done all of the homework myself. I don't have a problem with people putting in for units that they don't know but I hear a whole lot of stories about people who head to a new unit with permit in hand and don't know how or where to hunt it, a lot of times they don't have a quality hunt because of it. Most instances it would be nice to see someone who has done there homework and prepared for it get the tag. I just think if you're going to put in for a unit that you don't know, you better get prepared once you find out you were drawn and go take a look at what you're dealing with. I'd feel I owe it to the guys who were prepared and not drawn. Thankfully most people on this site are great hard working hunters and they do their homework.
Post by: bobcat on November 14, 2009, 07:58:18 AM
Post by: KillerMiller on November 14, 2009, 08:35:23 AM
I apply for moose, goat, and sheep tags every year, and also some very hard to draw deer and elk tags. I have yet to scout most of the units. If I get drawn, of course I will.
Seems OK to me.
:yeah:
Post by: coachcw on November 14, 2009, 10:28:14 AM
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Post by: heavy hauler on November 14, 2009, 11:14:26 PM
Post by: CJ-5 on November 15, 2009, 12:02:30 AM
Post by: Galpster on November 15, 2009, 03:15:27 AM
Just think about what I am saying here. Like Rodney King famously said" Can't we all just get along".
Post by: Savage3006 on November 15, 2009, 06:47:11 AM
I think it is rediculous that people get mad that new guys ask questions. What is the point of this forum? I really like this site and am starting to not like alot of the posters on here. Alot of people complaining and accusing others of doing wrong. On one post a guy even accused a guy of racism! Come on folks. If you don't want to meet new people and learn new things and places to go then just don't reply to those types of threads!! I for one have went hunting with 2 guys I meet from this site and had a good time. Went several times with let.it.fly and cannot wait to go scouting with him. I think that is what this forum is for is to connect hunters together and learn new tricks to filling the freezer!!
Just think about what I am saying here. Like Rodney King famously said" Can't we all just get along".
:yeah:
Post by: Backstrap on November 15, 2009, 02:34:37 PM
QuoteYeah, right. We're supposed to guess which four units we'll apply for next year, and then go scout them all. Hoping to someday draw one. That makes lots of sense.
If you don't like to share info, that's your perogative, but I think you may be confusing laziness with common sense.
You're the type of person I'm talking about. You expect to sit home and surf the internet for the all the info you need before applying for a tag, then once drawn expect everyone else to tell you all about it.
If you apply for units next year that you have never scouted out, you have nobody else to blame when your plea for info comes up empty because you instead chose to surf rather than hike. :twocents:
I have no problem sharing info with those that have shown they are willing to do the due diligence it takes to get it done. If you think otherwise I'm sure there are a couple people on this site that will vouch for me about giving out info to help them on their hunts. :twocents:
That's kinda funny, since you've never met me, and have no idea how I operate. Asking for info on the internet is just one arrow in my quiver. And I have lot's of arrows. BTW, I've found that not all the info coming in from folks like yourself is particularly useful. In fact I'd say most of it is about as useful at the "F&H News". But you put the pieces together and the picture starts to come into focus. And yeah, I burn my share of diesel and boot leather too.
I think some folks just like to play the victim. "Poor me. I have all this information, and these undeserving/dumb/lazy people just want me to give it to them for free" "Maybe they should pay to gas up my truck". "I'm the only person that deserves to draw this unit, because I already scouted it".
I have no problem with anyone that chooses to hold back info. Just seems a little ridiculous to post on a forum, where people come to share information, and bellyache about people looking for information.
Good huntin.
Post by: Buckmania on November 15, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
Post by: Galpster on November 15, 2009, 05:48:51 PM
Just for the record...if I ever do draw a tag for a premium unit and learn the unit, I'd be more then happy to pass that info on to any future tag holder, couch potato or not....no reason not to in my book, I'll probably never draw that tag again and I like to see people be successful and love helping good people out. Just cuz someone is "lazy" and posts a question about a unit doesn't mean they are a bad person, in my book at least.
:yeah: :brew:
Post by: Houndhunter on November 15, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
i dont like seeing people bitch to guys when there first few post are asking about a they drew tag, who cares. if you dont want to share your info than dont, that simple