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Title: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Dirty Mike on November 12, 2009, 08:36:32 PM
my buddy sent me this pic today guess he knows the guy, but i guess it was hit by a car in downtown olympia measures 19 wide 16 tall 7x5
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 12, 2009, 08:39:42 PM
Dang that sucks!
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 12, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
great lookin deer
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Post by: cascademountainhunter on November 12, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
darn city bucks
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Post by: washelkhntr on November 12, 2009, 08:41:45 PM
Looks like the buck that was hit out by bucks prarie off the highland road this last weekend.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Thefisherman83 on November 12, 2009, 08:50:59 PM
darn city bucks

Yeah we have a pair of really big 4x4 blackies that like to frequent my work here in Tumwater  :drool:
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: heavy hauler on November 12, 2009, 09:17:23 PM
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Bigfoot on November 13, 2009, 01:13:28 AM
Dandy buck for sure! 

FYI, you might want to tell your buddie's friend that it is illegal to possess that deer head unless he took it from the carcass during a valid hunting season and put a valid tag on it that corresponds with that season. ie; if the buck was killed by a car during rifle season, he can take the animal as long as it's open in that area and he puts his rifle tag on it.

Not saying I don't know people that have done it, just figured i'd let ya know.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Dirty Mike on November 13, 2009, 11:12:29 AM
dont know him personally a friend of a friend i think the sheriff ok'd it anyway thanks for the info though
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: LongTatLaw on November 13, 2009, 11:19:39 AM
did he see it get hit or just see it on the road and grab it?

hell of a deer

I basically live in Hawks Prarie..never seen anything like that but had several people tell me that area North of I-5 basically near Cabellas has monsters if ya can get access to private :dunno:
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: bankwalker on November 13, 2009, 11:31:11 AM
did he see it get hit or just see it on the road and grab it?

hell of a deer

I basically live in Hawks Prarie..never seen anything like that but had several people tell me that area North of I-5 basically near Cabellas has monsters if ya can get access to private :dunno:

seen a really big 2x3 this year right when you go around the last round-about before you get to cabelas.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 13, 2009, 11:54:26 AM
is it legal to collect a road kill?
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Post by: bow4elk on November 13, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
is it legal to collect a road kill?

ILLEGAL to pick up, cut off heads, racks, etc.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 13, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
is it legal to collect a road kill?

ILLEGAL to pick up, cut off heads, racks, etc.
You can only posses them if naturally shed.  You would probably have to get approval from a State or Federal game warden for removal and not a sheriff.  I guess you could try to win the argument that the deer shed its head off.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: bow4elk on November 13, 2009, 04:00:34 PM
is it legal to collect a road kill?

ILLEGAL to pick up, cut off heads, racks, etc.
You can only posses them if naturally shed.  You would probably have to get approval from a State or Federal game warden for removal and not a sheriff.  I guess you could try to win the argument that the deer shed its head off.   :dunno:

 :chuckle:  I've yet to see a naturally shed "deer head", with the exception of those resulting from two bucks getting locked up and the live deer kicking it off.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: DBake on November 13, 2009, 06:51:20 PM
dont know him personally a friend of a friend i think the sheriff ok'd it anyway thanks for the info though

 :lol4:


Should I call the Game Warden about a noise complaint I have againts my neighbor.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: PacificNWhunter on November 13, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
That's a great looking BT. It's a shame he met his fate with a car. I used to see a couple really nice bucks up off Cooper Point rd near the Evergreen State College. Definitely some good genetics out there.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: strutnrut1984 on November 14, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
shame , thats a real oinker
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Yelm hunter on November 14, 2009, 04:41:56 PM
I work at Cabela's and have seen alot of BIG BUCKS including that 2 x 3... He is approx. 19 inches high and 22 inch spread... He is a MONSTER BUCK!!
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: eastside boy on November 14, 2009, 06:04:53 PM
Dang......he must have been thinking with the wrong head!!!!! :chuckle:    Great buck though
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: HuntHigh on January 27, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
this is why washington needs a point restriction on the westside. i think it should be a three point min. so bucks can grow to maturity and we can get to see what kind of genetics are going to pop out in areas where most of the deer killed are spikes or small two points. yes some deer only grow to be very large two points but id rather see an area full of mature  huge two points than an area sparse with any bucks. plus when an animal is mature the bodu whieght is way more than a yearling or a two and a half year old deer.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Houndhunter on January 27, 2011, 04:42:37 PM
the west side has plenty of cover for bucks to get big, if you want more deer which means more bigger deer take out some of the predators is my  :twocents:

dang this is an old thread :chuckle:, nice buck though
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Alan K on January 27, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
dang this is an old thread :chuckle:, nice buck though

My thoughts exactly lol
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: HuntHigh on January 27, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
predator control is also a very big necessity but so is big game management this state has neither.  and yeah its really old  i was just browsing through and found it.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: teanawayslayer on January 27, 2011, 05:10:48 PM
dont know him personally a friend of a friend i think the sheriff ok'd it anyway thanks for the info though
hmmmmmmmmmmm! don't think the sherriff has juristiction of that one.  Don't think I would be posting pics
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: TwoFeet on January 27, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
is it legal to collect a road kill?

ILLEGAL to pick up, cut off heads, racks, etc.
You can only posses them if naturally shed.  You would probably have to get approval from a State or Federal game warden for removal and not a sheriff.  I guess you could try to win the argument that the deer shed its head off.   :dunno:

 :chuckle:  I've yet to see a naturally shed "deer head", with the exception of those resulting from two bucks getting locked up and the live deer kicking it off.
;D
No kidding!  I've ridden with my dad's buddy (State Game Warden) and seen quite a few guys either cited or warned for taking road kill.

Dandy buck and I love all the trash he's got on him.  At least he wasn't taken by some worthless poacher...
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: gunnarnewt on January 28, 2011, 11:57:16 AM
I agree....My uncle hit a decent buck on the way to deer camp one year, tagged it and reported it at the game check, for his honesty, he received a 500.00 fine, lost his tag, and hunting priveleges for two years. All because he didn't want the buck to go to waste!  :dunno:
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: kglacken on January 28, 2011, 05:03:29 PM
darn city bucks

Yeah we have a pair of really big 4x4 blackies that like to frequent my work here in Tumwater  :drool:

where do you work? My uncle works out there too and has nice bucks come through there every year
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: C-Money on January 28, 2011, 05:13:23 PM
That is an awesome buck!  :drool:
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: throttlejocky20 on January 29, 2011, 08:18:20 PM
Urban bucks get big. I used to be late to school chasing a giant 4 point around on south hill in puyallup. Theris now a safeway at one spot id see him and a movie theater at the other. that was a little over 10 years ago though.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Craig on January 29, 2011, 08:48:10 PM
Nice buck. There are a bunch of big ones out here on Cooper point RD and evergreen parkway. I have had some close calls a couple times.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: lokidog on January 29, 2011, 09:40:07 PM
The biggest blacktail I have sen in WA was feeding on the side of I-5 just south of Tumwater, about 7 years ago.  He was a 5X6 with a 24"+ spread, no camera, of course.

this is why washington needs a point restriction on the westside. i think it should be a three point min. so bucks can grow to maturity and we can get to see what kind of genetics are going to pop out in areas where most of the deer killed are spikes or small two points. yes some deer only grow to be very large two points but id rather see an area full of mature  huge two points than an area sparse with any bucks. plus when an animal is mature the bodu whieght is way more than a yearling or a two and a half year old deer.

Maybe on a unit by unit basis, 75% or more of the bucks here in the islands never grow more than forks, at least on our island.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: AKBowman on January 30, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
this is why washington needs a point restriction on the westside. i think it should be a three point min. so bucks can grow to maturity and we can get to see what kind of genetics are going to pop out in areas where most of the deer killed are spikes or small two points. yes some deer only grow to be very large two points but id rather see an area full of mature  huge two points than an area sparse with any bucks. plus when an animal is mature the bodu whieght is way more than a yearling or a two and a half year old deer.

That will never happen b/c the WDFW would only do that if they were forced to because the populations were down on the westside. Ultimately it would cost the WDFW tag revenue from people going to other states. Its a fact that most of the bucks shot on the westside are spikes/forks but that is because they are dumb and havent learned what it takes to survive, it doesnt mean there arent big three, four and even five points in every unit on the westside. There are tons of big mature bucks on the westside, they are shot by the same 5% of hunters every year. If they went to a 3 point min the bucks that get big enough to be 3 points would be just as hard to find as the bucks that get big enough to get 3 points as it is today. If you want to shoot a 3 point than dont shoot the first spike or fork you see. If you dont see any 3 points than hunt thicker stuff from a stand during the last week of October, put out a game camera and scout, they are there.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: go4itlab on January 30, 2011, 05:40:48 PM
Old pic its been around for 2 yrs that I know of, still a dandy BT
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: throttlejocky20 on January 30, 2011, 09:42:27 PM
this is why washington needs a point restriction on the westside. i think it should be a three point min. so bucks can grow to maturity and we can get to see what kind of genetics are going to pop out in areas where most of the deer killed are spikes or small two points. yes some deer only grow to be very large two points but id rather see an area full of mature  huge two points than an area sparse with any bucks. plus when an animal is mature the bodu whieght is way more than a yearling or a two and a half year old deer.

That will never happen b/c the WDFW would only do that if they were forced to because the populations were down on the westside. Ultimately it would cost the WDFW tag revenue from people going to other states. Its a fact that most of the bucks shot on the westside are spikes/forks but that is because they are dumb and havent learned what it takes to survive, it doesnt mean there arent big three, four and even five points in every unit on the westside. There are tons of big mature bucks on the westside, they are shot by the same 5% of hunters every year. If they went to a 3 point min the bucks that get big enough to be 3 points would be just as hard to find as the bucks that get big enough to get 3 points as it is today. If you want to shoot a 3 point than dont shoot the first spike or fork you see. If you dont see any 3 points than hunt thicker stuff from a stand during the last week of October, put out a game camera and scout, they are there.
I agree to a certain sense. But if that is true then why do you see more bucks in 2 point min areas or 3 point min areas on the east side. I know that mule deer are a different creature but most people shoot 3 points. I believe a point restriction would be a good thing the whole west side of Oregon is 2 point min we should follow.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: lokidog on January 30, 2011, 11:30:27 PM
I would agree with a two point minimum as that will allow the deer to put a little more meat on their bones.  Here, they put about ten pounds on between years.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: PolarBear on January 30, 2011, 11:43:50 PM
My buddy and I have seen that buck (or one very similar) on the hoof.  I saw him up off of I-5 by the exit to Evergreen.  It has been so long ago I has forgotten about him.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 31, 2011, 10:32:01 AM
Urban bucks get big. I used to be late to school chasing a giant 4 point around on south hill in puyallup. Theris now a safeway at one spot id see him and a movie theater at the other. that was a little over 10 years ago though.

 Sad, I saw some buck's near there too then, off of 172nd and 160th. Used to see a lot of grouse there too, all gone now. You see a lot of the deer in the Graham area malnourished due to lack of feed with all the development around them.
Title: Re: Huge Blacktail hit by car
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on January 31, 2011, 10:35:17 AM
 On the 3 pt. min. for blacktail, that would be the worst thing you could do as far as improving genetics. The lifer 2 points would breed more doe's than they do currently. You would need to shut down season's to affect that kind of change.
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