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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: 300UltraMagShooter on November 24, 2009, 03:03:27 PM
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I've decided to use my Montana tag. I have no idea where I'm going. This should be interesting. I'm leaning toward heading to Lewistown and maybe asking directions from there.
I'll post pics when I get back if I get anything.
If nothing else, it will be an adventure.
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Good luck, take a camera
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HAve a good trip then. some meat would be a bonus i bet.
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Good luck man!
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I stopped in Cabela's in Billings and got some maps. Should be good to go. I'm heading toward Broadus, MT.
Been a looooong drive. Hope it is worth it.
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Drove through Lewistown early Oct..... Saw some booners :o
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300 Ultra mag shooter:
You might try driving twoard Jordan there were allot of deer on that stretch. Remember Montana has a great block management program.
Good luck :twocents:
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Thanks for the info.
One of the guys who hunts MT a lot pointed me toward Broadus. We'll see how it goes. I'm not looking for a monster. Just a respectible deer.
I'll keep you posted.
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be sure to give us an update
and take picures. :tup:
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PM sent 300, just in case you can find internet access.
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Good luck.
I wish I could live around Lewistown. That area is awesome.
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Best of luck to you finding a respectable deer. Right now with the rut going on it won't be hard especially where you are headed ... you'll do just fine I can't wait to see the pics! :)
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Well ? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
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It's just been a little over a week ... probably just getting back and getting his trophy taken care of :) lets hope anyway!!!
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what do you guys think:
Should we send a search party? :dunno:
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i will go if i get to hunt :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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WELL?????????????? :dunno:
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...alien abduction... :yike: :llam:
(these were the two closest icons I could find to an alien...)
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I gave him GPS coordinates to one of my honey holes over there and he said he was going to hit it the next day, have not heard from him since. :dunno:
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Still no word.
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Better check the bars and jail around Miles City - been 30 days he should be out by now ! :chuckle: Lets see the pics of the Broadus Buck ???
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Anyone know the guy that started this thread? At this point I would just like to know if he is okay.
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i agree with huntnphool, would be good to hear from him and know he is o.k.
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Must have liked it so much, decided not to return! Threw his cell phone and computer away!
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i hope that is so
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Can any of the mods access his account to email him?
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I have emailed him several times, no replies there either. I could understand it if it was someone with a couple dozen posts but he had several hundred, and he sent me a PM the evening before he was going into one of my honey holes over there, that was his last post of any kind.
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you would of thought you would be the first to hear from him as soon as he got back if you helped him out hope he is o.k. and like you said not a 1-50 poster he was on here a bit.
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Heard a rumor he was continuing on towards the Southwest (US) for some hunts down there but should be long over by now... ???
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Should we form a search party...? :dunno:
...ahhh...never mind... let's wait till next hunting season.... :chuckle:
My concern is genuine Pathfinder, not a joke. To make light of the situation is not really appropriate IMO.
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Should we form a search party...? :dunno:
...ahhh...never mind... let's wait till next hunting season.... :chuckle:
My concern is genuine Pathfinder, not a joke. To make light of the situation is not really appropriate IMO.
Sorry about that. I guess I didn't realize we weren't joking.
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Did anyone know him outside of the website? Or his real name?
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it is just weird he was pretty active posting and to go on a trip and not ever post again is concerning. heck me i don't care ware i am if i can find a computer to check the new stuff out here i am on it. or to give updates as well.
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it is just weird he was pretty active posting and to go on a trip and not ever post again is concerning. heck me i don't care ware i am if i can find a computer to check the new stuff out here i am on it. or to give updates as well.
Exactly, like I said he was over there and checked the area I told him about. He sent me a PM that night and first thing in the morning was going to hit a particular draw I sent him too, he has not been on since or answered email.
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That is definitely suspicious phool... atleast we can hope that if he went missing something was done about it by his family or authorities and hopefully one of us would've heard about it. That's the best we can hope for at this time imho.
Michael
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is there nothing we can do? couldn't Ray get his real name from when he signed up? and then look him up somehow?
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I don't believe you have to provide a name to join this site.
I think he got what he came here for (huntnphool's honey hole in MT) and now has no reason to come back. ;)
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I don't believe you have to provide a name to join this site.
I think he got what he came here for (huntnphool's honey hole in MT) and now has no reason to come back. ;)
Not with 500+ posts over a years time.
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I googled his nickname and found him to partake in lots of forums, none of which have had any activity anytime recently.
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I'm fine.
I didn't want to talk about it because of what happened when i went to the spot.
I got a ticket for treespassing when I came back up the fenceline. A judge threw it out, but it was an ordeal to say the least.
now you know. blah.
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Well we all make mistakes, the important part is that the worst fears didn't come true. Welcome back. :hello:
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I'm fine.
I didn't want to talk about it because of what happened when i went to the spot.
I got a ticket for treespassing when I came back up the fenceline. A judge threw it out, but it was an ordeal to say the least.
now you know. blah.
Remind me not to hunt HP's honeyhole :yike:. Welcome back, hope you salvaged your trip.
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Glad you are okay, sounds like confusion on the location.
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must of got mixed up signals huntnphool is not the type to send you into a area that is not legal to be on. glad you are o.k.
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Should we form a search party...? :dunno:
...ahhh...never mind... let's wait till next hunting season.... :chuckle:
My concern is genuine Pathfinder, not a joke. To make light of the situation is not really appropriate IMO.
I don't believe you have to provide a name to join this site.
I think he got what he came here for (huntnphool's honey hole in MT) and now has no reason to come back. ;)
Not with 500+ posts over a years time.
Does someone need to lighten up a little? I understand you were worried about the guy, but what's wrong w/ a couple light hearted comments to lighten the mood? :dunno:
Maybe huntphool feared he was in jail.....;)
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:lol4:
So let me get this straight...Phool sent you somewhere and you went there and got a trespassing ticket? :chuckle:
:sry:... :chuckle:
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Yeah, I sent him to place I knew was illegal to hunt, then I get on here and bring it to the forfront again, really?
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:chuckle:
What a bummer...I hope he shot a nice buck
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No, I was down in that draw and the GW kept driving back and forth (harrassing me) and I second guessed myself, so I came back up the edge where the property line was. I was worried I had missunderstood the map with him acting so strange up there (although I didn't know who it was). I came back up in the dark and accidentally walked to the other side of that 20yards of fence.
The GW did spook a decent buck that was working his way toward me. :bash:
Glad you are okay, sounds like confusion on the location.
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Sounds like an honest mistake, I am genuinely glad you are okay though, something sure felt bad about the whole situation. I know the game wardens there, they patrol the area pretty heavily because of poachers. For the most part they are pretty nice guys, even help drag deer up out of that hole on occassion for friends of mine.
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Thats a bummer..how much was the ticket?
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glad to hear that you are O.K.
Sorry to hear about a trespassing ticket for being on the wrong side of the fence.
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I'm sure they are nice guys. Just wish they weren't so zealous... not to mention wish our country would stop using case law to teach them it is ok to break the constitution.
I shouldn't have panicked when I saw him stalking me.... Live and learn.
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So did you hire a lawyer in Montana to fight them off?
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No, I got lucky.
I went and plead guilty just to get it over with since I technically did treespass.
He asked my why I thought I was guilty. Then, I think the judge saw all kinds of problems when I told him what happened. He was getting mad (maybe mad isn't the right word... maybe disgusted?) even when I didn't expect him to. I just got lucky really.
So did you hire a lawyer in Montana to fight them off?
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Like they say, I'd take lucky over being good anyday. Glad it worked out.
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Wow, thats lucky...Id hate to have to drive back to MT for a court date...
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How many trips to montana did that take to fix.
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None, I just waited until the court date. Ruined my trip, but I wasn't about to come back.
How many trips to montana did that take to fix.
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So as I've never been dinged for trespassing I was wondering if they take you tag or just issue a citation?
How much $$ was the ticket?
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I think trespassing means loss of license for awhile in MT? And, if part the multi-state agreement - loss in one state could mean loss in several western states. :yike:
Glad everything worked out for you......
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Yea, the GW can really screw up a good trip. Glad you made it back OK.
Thats one thing that sux in MT - such a patch work of private - blm land - block management land you need a good topo gps in one hand preprogrammed with land ownership maps to hunt within 1/2 mile of any borders. Of course ranchers rent the blm for grazing so you can't tell blm from private - never mind block management - without good maps and a gps. No one posts signs of course as its not necessary in MT. Of course land owners spot a hunter anywhere close to them they call in the GW just to be safe.
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Sounds like paradise...
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It is tough. Being from Montana and hunting there till I left to join the military I have had many close calls. Like stated before most private land is not posted but the ones that are have orange spray paint on the tops of the fence posts. I bet if I went back all the land I hunted is probably sub divisions now.
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Yikes. Sorry to hear about that 300. Did you quit hunting after the incident with the GW?
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It is unfortunate that they have to be so letter of the law. You guys really don't know how bad the trespassing and poaching is over there. I do feel bad that 300 was treated like that but at the same time I'm glad they are there looking out for the land owners. I have a lease in that area and being over here makes it impossible to monitor the property, we rely on these guys a lot.
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At least everything worked out in the end and glad to see we got an update on the status of a fellow member who was MIA. I'm sure 300 wanted a different outcome but there is always next year. It was nice of huntnphool to pass on the hunt info, as well as being concerned about 300 status.
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you just found out the problem with SE montana..........I have so many horror stories from that area it is a joke........I see all these guys on here that are just stompin' at the bit to get to Broadus........you drive around and see 75 bucks a day on mostly private ground, and try and work on odd public section here and there, mixed in with the private, trying to catch a decent one moving around...........I haven't been there in 6 yrs, and it was a joke back then; can't believe what it is now......BMA's get hammered with people
Broadus in 1990's was heaven.........wasn't hard finding access to good private ground, landowners very nice, outfitters less of a presence. Broadus in 2009 is just a pain in the ass without access to private ground. Here is just a couple of the doozies: hiking in a public area of 4 sections with private around it; nice mid to high 20's buck in there; in the middle of a stalk when a sheriff shows up on the gravel rd a mile and a half from where I am at; were 60 miles east of broadus in the middle of nowhere; sheriff proceeds to drive offroad, through the sagebrush, crosscountry, hauls ass up to me and says I am on private ground. Have all the BLM maps and know exactly where I am at; but, hey, you going to argue with a sherriff 60 miles from nowhere in SE montana?? So, jump in his rig and he goes back to gravel rd. I pull the BLM maps out of my backpack, and proceed to show him exactly where I am at. His *censored* has no idea where he is, and he finally admits that yes, I am on public ground. BUT, says that the adjoining landowner is a real stickler about trespassing, and it would be best if I weren't even close to his land, even if I was on public.
another episode: I am hunting on a BMA (this is in the infancy of the program) and park at the designated parking area; a guide with Powder River Outfitters in his 1984 suburban is driving down through the BMA with a 27" buck on the front of his rig and has three hunters in the back. He proceeds to tell me that Powder River Outfitters has this ranch leased and that I am trespassing.........
I mean it just goes on and on around there........when we were there last in 2003, Guy Eastman was there in his fancy suburban, and the Hunter Specialty guys were there as well, I knew right then it was over.............it is not enjoyable hunting when you are looking over your shoulder every ten minutes or, if you move across a fence for 10 yds you are going to get hammered with a trespassing ticket......if you have access to private ground in broadus, it is worth going to; anything else is a pain in the ass.........all these WA guys go there, drive around and see all these 21" 4 pt bucks standing alongside the road on private ground, and think they are in heaven. But, then they go to the BMA and see a fraction of those bucks and ten million people; and then go back to these odd sections of public ground in the middle of the private ground trying to find a good one, and it turns out two ways:
1. They shoot a 23" buck, and then come back to WA and get on a forum like this and brag to everyone.
2. They get a trespassing ticket; or get runoff by an outfitter/GW/Sheriff, even if they are on public ground
3. Spend the week playing grabass with the outifitter/GW/Sheriff
unless you have access to private ground, you are about 9 yrs too late to the Broadus party..........
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You can thank the outfitters lobby for a lot of that muleyguy.
. This buck was killed at some point in the middle of the night while we were there this last year. Someone shot it, capped it and left the rest, less than a mile from where 300 was at.
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You can thank the outfitters lobby for a lot of that muleyguy
I know; we are on the same page as far as that. If there was ever an area that the guaranteed tag program has killed, it is the broadus area.
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You guys really don't know how bad the trespassing and poaching is over there
I agree with that also; its all just a big game between the landowner, the hunters, the outfitters, the GW and the sheriffs. The hunters are just as bad and pushing it as anybody else.
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Yikes. I didn't realize it was that bad. :yike:
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Yikes. I didn't realize it was that bad. :yike:
When there are bucks like this all over the place, just 30-40 yards away, temptation gets the better of some people.
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I pull the BLM maps out of my backpack, and proceed to show him exactly where I am at. His *censored* has no idea where he is, and he finally admits that yes, I am on public ground. BUT, says that the adjoining landowner is a real stickler about trespassing, and it would be best if I weren't even close to his land, even if I was on public.
That would REALLY make me mad. >:( I'd be liable to go back and hunt right along the public/private land boundary just because I can. It's public land and the adjacent landowner has no more right to it than anybody else.
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Yikes. I didn't realize it was that bad. :yike:
When there are bucks like this all over the place, just 30-40 yards away, temptation gets the better of some people.
So True. My son and I spot one much bigger than this 300 yards away but I knew it was probably over the line by 100 yards so we held off. Drove a mile to locate the landowner and asked permission but sure enough the nicest lady in the world wanted us to shoot it but couldn't let us because she had already leased the land out. Don't think we weren't tempted to shoot and drag though. I try to teach my son games won through cheating are a hollow victory that sticks with you.
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Yikes. I didn't realize it was that bad. :yike:
When there are bucks like this all over the place, just 30-40 yards away, temptation gets the better of some people.
So True. My son and I spot one much bigger than this 300 yards away but I knew it was probably over the line by 100 yards so we held off. Drove a mile to locate the landowner and asked permission but sure enough the nicest lady in the world wanted us to shoot it but couldn't let us because she had already leased the land out. Don't think we weren't tempted to shoot and drag though. I try to teach my son games won through cheating are a hollow victory that sticks with you.
Good for you Magnum. Funny how our kids can bring out the best in us, huh?
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Good for you magnum. Did I read where the guaranteed tag program is done this year. That might effect some of those leases. Might get costly.
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It has not gone through yet.
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Good for you Magnum. Funny how our kids can bring out the best in us, huh?
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So true. Double bonus hunting with your boy - a lot of shared memories and he keeps you out of trouble !
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I have always told my younger soldiers; "Wait until you are old enough to know who YOU are before you have kids. Otherwise, how will you know who to teach a little person who to be?" I have always seen my boys an an incarnation of what I could have been...
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You can thank the outfitters lobby for a lot of that muleyguy.
. This buck was killed at some point in the middle of the night while we were there this last year. Someone shot it, capped it and left the rest, less than a mile from where 300 was at.
What a disgrace, all that wasted venison..... >:(
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Terrible waste, I was in E. Montana in 2008 and saw a couple the exact same way. There was a draw less than a mile from our camp. Somehow they killed some bucks without us hearing at night and just cut the horns off and let the birds have the rest. People like that need shot, plain and simple!!!
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Well, I'm glad i saw this post. We were planning a hunt out there this year. I don't think so anymore. I think I just might head to utah. It seems to me that hunting is becoming more and more of a rich man's sport. I swing a hammer for a living and probably never get to do one of these "outfitted" hunts for 5 grand. that's ok though because i truly enjoy my time spent outdoors. I just don't want people thinking that "they have more of a right" on a piece of public land than someone else, for whatever reason. Kinda sad to hear.
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I am embarrassed to say i got a trespassing ticket this year in Montana also(trusted friends instead of doing my own research) it was a 130 dollar ticket and the game warden told me i could pay him or go to the courthouse and pay within 30 days , he also said it a non game violation just like a seatbelt ticket.I will always do my own research from now on.
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i was hopeing to hunt montana this coming season (if i had gotten drawn) but now im 2nd guessing...
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Everyone (except me) should stop putting in for Montana deer tags... The hunting is way better in WA anyway... :rolleyes:
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I am embarrassed to say i got a trespassing ticket this year in Montana also(trusted friends instead of doing my own research) it was a 130 dollar ticket and the game warden told me i could pay him or go to the courthouse and pay within 30 days , he also said it a non game violation just like a seatbelt ticket.I will always do my own research from now on.
Do we know this "so called" friend of yours?