Post by: huntergreg on November 26, 2009, 05:35:12 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on November 26, 2009, 06:14:51 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on November 26, 2009, 06:19:40 PM
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on November 26, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on November 26, 2009, 06:34:17 PM
Post by: Jason on November 26, 2009, 06:38:28 PM
i love ethics. >:(
What Ethics?
Post by: LittleJohn on November 26, 2009, 06:41:28 PM
Post by: littlebuf on November 26, 2009, 06:41:53 PM
Post by: huntergreg on November 26, 2009, 06:45:15 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on November 26, 2009, 06:45:48 PM
Post by: Jason on November 26, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
Im not ashamed at all but it looks like people like to criticize the *censored* out of someone. So I took it off.off course your not ashamed, if you were so good at shooting long distances you would have hit him where you put your pins, classic example of why you should not shoot so far.
Post by: littlebuf on November 26, 2009, 06:49:46 PM
Post by: LittleJohn on November 26, 2009, 06:50:43 PM
Post by: bowhuntin on November 26, 2009, 07:00:37 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on November 26, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
Post by: littlebuf on November 26, 2009, 07:30:31 PM
Post by: Jason on November 26, 2009, 07:32:44 PM
Post by: cascademountainhunter on November 26, 2009, 07:41:20 PM
Post by: bowhuntin on November 26, 2009, 07:48:51 PM
what did he do? what was the pic of. i guess i got here to late darnit lol.
His story said he was hunting the last day of early season and he spotted a spike. Couldn't get any closer than 103 yards, so he took a shot from there. He saw the spike drop and then there was a picture of a spike elk with an arrow in the back of its head. The post has since been deleted by him.
Post by: cascademountainhunter on November 26, 2009, 08:00:53 PM
Post by: Pazn25 on November 26, 2009, 11:25:36 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 26, 2009, 11:29:52 PM
Post by: washelkhntr on November 27, 2009, 12:01:23 AM
Post by: lokidog on November 27, 2009, 12:37:32 AM
Just because you can hit a target at 60, 70, 80 yards doesn't mean you should shoot at an animal at that distance, just too many variables.....
Post by: Grizzly95 on November 27, 2009, 12:58:32 AM
It's guys like you that make the stereo-type that archers are meat waster. I f you truly made that shot chalk it up as a freakin miracle and hang your bow up, it won't happen twice.
Post by: longstevo on November 27, 2009, 03:17:08 AM
I just got a lot prouder to be part of this site surrounded by all you good sportsmen and women.
:rockin:
Post by: flyguide on November 27, 2009, 06:55:57 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 27, 2009, 07:11:47 AM
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He was out at 103 yards. I would have missed if he stood still. It would have flown over his back. I practice all the time. I shoot a 2009 Bowtech 82nd Airborne. I have a spot hog 7 pin sight with my first pin to the 7th pin set at~~~ 30-40-50-60-a gap between 60-70, then 80-90-100. I have harvested 14 animals in my 9 years of bow hunting. I have had a few deer in the 30-40 yard range but most out in the 60-100 yard range. All it takes is practice. It may happen to any bow hunter. You can make a bad shot, gut shot or somewhere else. I cant help the fact that the elk turned into my arrow.
Liked stated elsewhere.....you are either a liar or an unethical hunter. I don't care what brand/model gear you have, there is no reason to take 100 yards shots on unsuspecting game.
Post by: boneaddict on November 27, 2009, 07:20:30 AM
and you bow "hunt" for what reason........
Post by: Ray on November 27, 2009, 07:23:48 AM
what did he do? what was the pic of. i guess i got here to late darnit lol.
His story said he was hunting the last day of early season and he spotted a spike. Couldn't get any closer than 103 yards, so he took a shot from there. He saw the spike drop and then there was a picture of a spike elk with an arrow in the back of its head. The post has since been deleted by him.
Sounds like someone desperate to fill their tag at any cost. Lucky or not it isn't anything I would promote by video on the web. I've done a lot of things in life that I wasn't proud of but I have always tried to take responsible shots that most anyone else would consider.
Self control is important for hunters and it sounds like it doesn't matter to some folks because "you shouldn't try this unless you are an expert" and I am an expert so therefore exempt from that rule. Self control doesn't become a part of the equation.
To me this situation sounds very similar to folks who insist that they should take 1000 yard shots on elk using a rifle and put it on the web. Some 14 year old kid will pick up on that, think it's cool or even worse -correct- and try it. You have to wonder how many animals have been wounded by people who make those sort of hunting decisions. Simply stalking closer or waiting for the more optimal encounter are always going to be better options, requiring superior skills and greater character by the hunter when it comes to archery and 103 yard encounters.
Take some thought about what you have done and consider taking up rifle or muzzleloader season if you need to shoot elk using a compound at 103 yards.
Post by: ribka on November 27, 2009, 08:45:07 AM
Post by: bucklucky on November 27, 2009, 08:52:37 AM
Post by: huntnphool on November 27, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 27, 2009, 10:41:51 AM
Post by: Hunterman on November 27, 2009, 10:53:40 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: markts on November 27, 2009, 03:14:18 PM
Post by: Jeremiah P on November 27, 2009, 04:24:24 PM
I'm betting he is a staff shooter for Team Hoyt too.
Must be related to Paul, are u sure he doesn't have another screen name :chuckle:
Post by: highside74 on November 27, 2009, 05:06:01 PM
Post by: Antlershed on November 27, 2009, 07:28:14 PM
No, I think he's too busy running guided kokanee fishing trips. :chuckle:I'm betting he is a staff shooter for Team Hoyt too.
Must be related to Paul, are u sure he doesn't have another screen name :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 28, 2009, 09:29:41 PM
Post by: Jason on November 28, 2009, 09:41:24 PM
also i don't think i need to add anything but if he was going for a normal heart lung shot and pegged it in the back of the head he probably shot what 12" high and 6 or so" left or right depending on which way the animal was standing
maybe on a deer, but he was shooting an Elk, he hit him in the back of the head between his ears about 4" back from the antlers, 2 feet high and 1-1.5 feet right or left, it looks like he snuck up from behind and shot him in the head.
Post by: Snowman on November 28, 2009, 09:45:11 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 12:04:02 PM
Post by: huntergreg on November 29, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 29, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 01:53:01 PM
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I am very sorry and it will never happen again. I am not going to make any excuses. It was a stupid shot for me to take and I know that I could have wounded him by my stupid choices. Everyone have a great day.Not that you ahd to apologize at all, but very standup! 8) Glad it all turned out well!
Post by: RockChuck on November 29, 2009, 01:55:40 PM
Post by: Red Dawg on November 29, 2009, 02:00:16 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 29, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
QuoteI am very sorry and it will never happen again. I am not going to make any excuses. It was a stupid shot for me to take and I know that I could have wounded him by my stupid choices. Everyone have a great day.Not that you ahd to apologize at all, but very standup! 8) Glad it all turned out well!
Now were you really 103 yds?? :rolleyes: I'm not a bow hunter... But I've head shot a few deer that I was 10-40 feet from before with my rifle.... Is that wrong... I knew I could make an ethical kill... And in the thick of the wet side.. Sometimes there isn't much of a shot... :dunno:
Post by: huntergreg on November 29, 2009, 02:02:49 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 29, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Post by: huntergreg on November 29, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
Post by: Jason on November 29, 2009, 02:09:43 PM
Me and my son.now thats the pic you should have posted, congrats on the kill and hopefully next time you will have a little better shot judgment, you owe it to the animal for a good clean ethical kill.
Post by: RockChuck on November 29, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 29, 2009, 02:27:04 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 29, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: EastWaViking on November 29, 2009, 02:54:37 PM
Good ad for Bowtech.
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Post by: littlebuf on November 29, 2009, 02:56:02 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 29, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Post by: Elk hunter4ever on November 29, 2009, 03:40:51 PM
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 29, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
This is to everyone that hates me for the shot I made on the Elk. :bdid: I am very sorry and it will never happen again. I am not going to make any excuses. It was a stupid shot for me to take and I know that I could have wounded him by my stupid choices. Everyone have a great day.
Way to step up and admit it was not the most ethical shot to take, like said you got lucky on this one. Next time you might not be so lucky. Some people might not even be impressed by what you did. The bottom line is you did do it and you recovered it.
Post by: Jerome on November 29, 2009, 09:32:56 PM
still not impressed, hope you learned somethingGood thing hes not trying to impress you.
Post by: littlebuf on November 29, 2009, 09:35:53 PM
still not impressed, hope you learned somethingGood thing hes not trying to impress you.
no im sure anybody that goes online and brags about the 103 yard shot they took on a elk with a bow isnt looking to impress any one. this one back fired on him and he's back pedaling.
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2009, 09:51:40 PM
From the reactions on this forum, I am sure you probably have given some thought to being more responsible with future shot oportunities that you may get.
I for one want to welome you to the site and hope you will continue to be active on here. I believe that we as hunters should try to help each other out, rather than just ridicule a person who makes an error in judgement.
There is a great bunch of very ethical hunters on this site, if you hang out on here you will learn a lot from most of them. Just don't let the harsh ones get to you and try to learn from those that offer advice. :twocents:
My advice is that you need to establish what your personal effective range is at the range and try to not shoot beyond that range at game. For some hunters that is 20 yards, for others it is much farther, but in consideration for the animals that you hunt, you should try to establish your realistic effective range and use that as a guideline.
Congrats on getting the elk.... :)
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on November 29, 2009, 09:59:16 PM
no im sure anybody that goes online and brags about the 103 yard shot they took on a elk with a bow isnt looking to impress any one. this one back fired on him and he's back pedaling.still not impressed, hope you learned somethingGood thing hes not trying to impress you.
Dont see how he is back pedaling?? He stepped up said it was wrong, whatelse we want from him?? Shoot a bow long enough and you might not take a 103 yard shot, but there will be a mistake made, wether you meant for it or not ;)
Post by: longstevo on November 29, 2009, 11:43:02 PM
But I think it says something about huntergreg to come back on and actually own up to being called out. While I don't think anybody will condone the shot that he took, maybe we could let up on the unending criticism and give him a chance? :dunno: I think he's learned his lesson.
Post by: billythekidrock on November 30, 2009, 05:08:34 AM
no im sure anybody that goes online and brags about the 103 yard shot they took on a elk with a bow isnt looking to impress any one. this one back fired on him and he's back pedaling.
Dont see how he is back pedaling?? He stepped up said it was wrong, whatelse we want from him??
Remember, he did not step up on his own. He caught a lot of flack and even tried a new login name. Maybe not backpedaling but definately some side to side.
I guess I gotta give a little credit for staying and dealing with it though.
Post by: haus on November 30, 2009, 09:47:06 AM
That being said I'll shoot at 500+ yards in heart beat if its a coyote, and if I hit 'em I'll let ya know :chuckle:
Post by: Little Dave on December 01, 2009, 02:21:35 AM
If you haven't yet, a bowhunter ed class might be fun to take with your son. The certificaton is not required in Washington, but it is for some other states like Montana if you ever plan to hunt there. Looks like you've had a good lecture here already, but consider the class. It is fun and can guide you away from some situations like this and others.