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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 11:38:00 AM

Title: Take the shot
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Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 11:41:22 AM: I think I could slip a 140 Nosler through that slot :chuckle:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: littlebuf on November 29, 2009, 11:42:20 AM: i marked yes to rifle and muzzy/ if i had my bow langer than the month ive had it maybe
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Caseyd on November 29, 2009, 11:43:51 AM: Quote from: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 11:41:22 AM
I think I could slip a 140 Nosler through that slot :chuckle:

where would you place it phool?

I'm in no way critizing your shot, just curious
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 11:49:28 AM: Quote from: Caseyd on November 29, 2009, 11:43:51 AM
Quote from: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 11:41:22 AM
where would you place it phool?I'm in no way critizing your shot, just curious
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: scoyoc5 on November 29, 2009, 11:55:21 AM: i voted yes for all three. Where HP marked for rifle and muzzy and about 2" back for archery
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 11:59:35 AM: I can't see where he marked (off lunch break) but I'd put it about where that blade of grass crosses (front one across mid section).
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2009, 12:02:21 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 11:59:35 AM
I can't see where he marked (off lunch break) but I'd put it about where that blade of grass crosses (front one across mid section)

LOL, sounds like you can see it ;)
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 29, 2009, 12:13:42 PM: Yes to the rifle and muzzy. No on the archery, but one more step ... quartering away is my favorite shot, lining up on the offside scapula-humerus joint.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2009, 12:22:27 PM: I'd certainly respect any archer that votes no. I'd let fly about the same spot and his forward momentum should put it in there. You better be one confident shooter though and the fact I am shooting by instinct helps. I'd imagine a bunch of folks putting it through there peeps, following the deer and smucking the tree to the right. Honestly I think shooting Trad gear gives you the advantage on this shot. Just my opinion :twocents:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: EastWaViking on November 29, 2009, 12:25:54 PM: one more step and yes to all three. The X is too far forward for archery you are going to get one lung and exit in front of the far shoulder...and be tracking forever. Snow helps, but I'd wait another step and hold at least 8 inches father back. IMO
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Gutpile on November 29, 2009, 03:03:29 PM: I'm not a bow hunter so I didn't vote for that but yes to muzzy and rifle.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: jackelope on November 29, 2009, 03:15:09 PM: i voted no on the bow shot until he took 1 more step, yes to rifle and muzz. i think phools shot is a touch to far forward to be a perfect kill shot on a quartering away animal, although it'd likely do the job with either of the guns.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Jamieb on November 29, 2009, 03:18:02 PM: I voted yes to bow, muzzy, and rifle.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Kain on November 29, 2009, 03:20:57 PM: One more step and I would fling that arrow. I think I would aim just a little farther back though.

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Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Galpster on November 29, 2009, 03:23:36 PM: I voted yes on all three but could have used more info like is he standing broad side, is he standing still or walking.

I assumed standing brod side at 35 yards no wind, come it is a gimme shot for all three.

Take the shot!!
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Huntbear on November 29, 2009, 05:05:48 PM: Rifle shot, with a deer rifle, would be base of the skull at that range.

Muzzy would be behind the shoulder.

Since I dont hunt archery, I said no.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 29, 2009, 08:34:28 PM: I would in a heart beat with a ML or long gun... Right now I can't hit a 20yd target with my bow.... :bash: Need to get it tuned for me....
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: jackelope on November 29, 2009, 09:39:04 PM: my concern with the archery shot is whether or not the difference between the site and the arrow is enough to cause my arrow to hit the blurry snow covered limb in the center of the pic...not the tree on the right or left. instictive shooting would eliminate the concern for that.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Grizzly95 on November 29, 2009, 09:48:02 PM: I archery hunt and I think I would pass on the arrow shot, maybe in a step or 2. Never shot a muzzy, but I think a well practiced shooter could pull it off. Rifle is a gimme I think.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: EastWaViking on November 30, 2009, 07:56:43 AM: For archery, you should always aim for the front shoulder on the opposite side... which you can't see in this picture. Which means holding right where the white limb is. On a quartering shot holding that far back, you end up hitting liver, clipping this sides lung and drilling the other lung. He won't go very far then. If you hold right behind this sides shoulder you will only get this sides lung and he can go a long ways. I imagine the same holds true for black powder. For rifle there is plenty to shoot at in this pic. :twocents:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: halflife65 on November 30, 2009, 08:24:39 AM: I read through the posts before voting and, because it was mentioned that the deer was moving, I said "no" to archery and "yes" to muzzleloader and rifle (should be a pretty easy shot with the rifle.) If the deer was standing still, I think it would be a good shot with archery, though, and I would take it.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: GoldTip on November 30, 2009, 08:31:04 AM: I said no for archery, angled to steeply for my liking. 35 yards and if you move one inch forward of the X, then you hit shoulder blade, one inch back and your catching some guts. JMHO. Can it be done and has it been done, hell yes, doesn't mean it's a good shot. Muzzy, never shot one so I voted no. Rifle? Well he's taking one in the back of the melon at that range.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Little Dave on November 30, 2009, 09:26:31 AM: Before choosing yes, I'd like to know more about the backstop... so by default no. Otherwise, looks fine except perhaps archery, looks like a higher potential for a poorly placed shot with deflection and angle.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: bearpaw on November 30, 2009, 10:05:40 AM: I'd take the shot with rifle or muzzleloader in a heartbeat, but like many others I would wait for the deer to take another step before I released an arrow. Those blades of grass appear close to the hunter, thus leaving several yards of arrow travel after the arrow possibly gets a slight deflection from one of those blades of grass. In another step there is a wider arrow path between the grass blades. :twocents:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 30, 2009, 10:10:35 AM: rifle/muzzy back of the neck no thought otherwise bow i would have to lean a bit to the right but the angle is ok to run one up threw the boiler room
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: 7mmfan on November 30, 2009, 10:21:22 AM: Does no one consider a neck shot here? I know that vital organ shots are where its at but i've shot several deer in the neck and seen several deer shot in the neck and not one has moved an inch from that spot. With that particular angle, the neck is the biggest target you've got.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 30, 2009, 10:25:18 AM: Quote
one more step and yes to all three. The X is too far forward for archery you are going to get one lung and exit in front of the far shoulder...and be tracking forever. Snow helps, but I'd wait another step and hold at least 8 inches father back. IMO
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I'd certainly respect any archer that votes no. I'd let fly about the same spot and his forward momentum should put it in there. You better be one confident shooter though and the fact I am shooting by instinct helps. I'd imagine a bunch of folks putting it through there peeps, following the deer and smucking the tree to the right. Honestly I think shooting Trad gear gives you the advantage on this shot. Just my opinion
:archery_smiley:
If the deer is "stepping out" in that funny walk they have, I am with you.
If he is just leaving, I would not take the shot, maybe try to circle downwind hoping for a better op.
Shooting my K-Mag (60#) I could loop one over branch to drop in the "sweet", but my Damon Howatt (75#) would go a little further back towards off-side shoulder...... (instinctive)
but with my normal habit, I would overthink the shot and pass.........(oops too late :bash:)
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: runamuk on November 30, 2009, 10:41:02 AM: Why has no one suggested a head shot? are those shots only for bears and dogs and predators :dunno:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2009, 11:09:41 AM: Quote from: runamuk on November 30, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Why has no one suggested a head shot? :dunno:

Check out post #16 and #22
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: mossback91 on November 30, 2009, 11:15:37 AM: Well I see snow........is this my late rifle tag? heck I'll pass on that buck :chuckle:

I would much rather take a surefire vitals shot with my rifle than to take a headshot :dunno: Just personal preference I guess
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: jackelope on November 30, 2009, 11:57:54 AM: the thought to shoot a deer in the head has never crossed my mind..35 yards or 135 yards...not a high % shot so i won't take it.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2009, 12:05:56 PM: Quote from: mossback91 on November 30, 2009, 11:15:37 AM
Well I see snow........is this my late rifle tag? heck I'll pass on that buck :chuckle:

Bone asked "Its 35 yards, no wind, do you take the shot (bone size doesn't matter)" ;)
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: runamuk on November 30, 2009, 12:14:13 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on November 30, 2009, 11:09:41 AM
Quote from: runamuk on November 30, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Why has no one suggested a head shot? :dunno:

Check out post #16 and #22

sorry blonde moment :bash:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Intruder on November 30, 2009, 02:10:18 PM: no - bow
yes - muz/rifle
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on November 30, 2009, 02:23:47 PM: There's no hope for Moss Must be one of those youngins' (thats now under 30) :)
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Huntbear on November 30, 2009, 06:02:17 PM: I would also take that shot with my .44 mag, handgun. No 2nd thought, just pull up, get the sight picture and squeeze one off.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2009, 06:43:19 AM: thats a no brainer, you either hit the deer, or hit the tree and fall it on him. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on December 01, 2009, 04:02:18 PM: For those of you waiting for a better angle..................... :)
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Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: halflife65 on December 01, 2009, 04:30:40 PM: Uh oh, that one will start the whole "Texas Heart Shot" debate again... :stirthepot:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Kain on December 01, 2009, 04:49:35 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 01, 2009, 04:02:18 PM
For those of you waiting for a better angle..................... :)

Damn it that is always my luck. I guess I would not be shooting that buck with my bow. I probably would have waited with a rifle also hoping for a clearer shot and then missed my chance. :dunno:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 01, 2009, 09:18:30 PM: Now is time for the head neck shot with a rifle....
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: andrew_12gauge on December 03, 2009, 08:46:53 AM: Quote from: jackelope on November 30, 2009, 11:57:54 AM
the thought to shoot a deer in the head has never crossed my mind..35 yards or 135 yards...not a high % shot so i won't take it.

what if you had a deer bedded behind sage with just his head showing, at around 60-70 yds would you take that shot jackelope, not tryin to start a fight just wonderin, because i have taken that shot personally with a rifle, i voted yes to all 3 weapons btw
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on December 03, 2009, 08:55:31 AM: I don't do headshots. If I am shooting it, it tends to have headgear that I want to keep along withthe skullcap. I like to have meat and antlers, thats another reason for a boiling room broadside shot.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: MtnMuley on December 03, 2009, 11:39:23 AM: Not a fan of head shots either, but would prefer to see a head shot than a neck shot. I've heard of many animals over the years being wounded by neckshots. :twocents: In this case, if wanted to kill this buck, one up the rear would definately end him(rifle).
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: KimberRich on December 03, 2009, 11:55:38 AM: Don't bow hunt so didn't vote there but said yes to Muzzy/Rifle.

At 35 yards I would shoot this buck it in the neck. No questions about it. Your more than likely going to hit the opposite shoulder with most good rib shots at that angle and I'm not a fan of blowing out an entire shoulder when you don't really need to. Not a fan of head shots either like many have said on here. Hit it in the neck and it will drop. :twocents:
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: jackelope on December 03, 2009, 12:47:44 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on December 01, 2009, 04:02:18 PM
For those of you waiting for a better angle..................... :)
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now you have a bullseye to aim at.
:dunno:
what?
Title: I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE ON THIS SITE THAT HUNTS WITH PISTOL!
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 03, 2009, 01:14:21 PM: So, 35yds with iron sighted 7 1/2" RSBH 44mag with 300gn Sierra's traveling at about 1450fps.

Damn skippy. Dead Deer. The key is with shot placement. At more than quartering away I would want the bullet entrance to be a bit farther back than where I would aim if it was a broadside or truly quarting away shot. This is a perfect shot to do damage to both lungs in a hurry. I know people that would take the neck shot in that situation also. Finding a path for bullet through that brush is key.

I don't shoot a bow yet. Can't comment. If I was an experienced Muzzy shooter, Dead deer. Rifle? 'You need to ask?' -Spine shot just above the shoulder.

NO, The Texas Heart Shot is not in my bag of tricks.

Edit: I hadn't read the whole thread until after posting. Photos marked in posts 14 and 24 was what I was thinking.

-Steve
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: mad-bomber on December 07, 2009, 04:30:30 PM: id throw a rock at it.
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: MichaelJ on December 08, 2009, 09:13:57 PM: Voted yes to all three, not worried about the stick, easy move to lean to the right to avoid it or wait for his right leg to step forward and let 'er fly...

With a rifle I wouldn't hesitate on a neck shot... But ya'll know how I'm trigger happy anyways dontcha? lol

Michael
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: Big10gauge on December 08, 2009, 09:19:29 PM: Just slip the arrow right behind his last rib, should come out in front of opposite shoulder
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: boneaddict on December 09, 2009, 05:59:16 AM: I didn't mean it was a better angle Jack, the smiley face was for all those waiting for that step and he did exactly opposite, and tomorrow nights barbecue walks away.

Texas heart shots are not for me(rifle). I think its more of an emotional thing than a physical thing. I know they obviously work, but I just have a phobia with things going up the exit hole. Now if it was a booner non-typical, I might have to lose that phobia
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 09, 2009, 09:07:36 AM: Quote
Now if it was a booner non-typical, I might have to lose that phobia

No need to lose that phobia. Walking away.. Scoped rifle shot with a rest.. We all shoot from bench to proof our loads and shooting arm to put 3-5 rounds on paper nearly touching.

Given the correct 'field bench rest', the base of the neck spinal shot is there. If you can snap that photo, (as long as that wasn't a digital video of snaps), then you could have put the cross hairs on the spine. No Texas heart shot required.

-Steve
Title: Re: Take the shot
Post by: steen on December 15, 2009, 02:27:27 PM: Just lean a little to the right.