Post by: oldschool on December 02, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 02, 2009, 04:48:04 PM
Post by: Special T on December 02, 2009, 04:49:36 PM
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Post by: Special T on December 02, 2009, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: satchel3006 on December 02, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 02, 2009, 08:12:16 PM
cmmginc.com has some bargin bin ar 15 for 600 bucks they got a 16" and an 18" version both flat top the only thing wrong with them is they might be scratched up might be worth a look. im shooting a dpms ap4 (16" carbine) that i really like
+1... the DPMS AP4 is a great tactical carbine and will shoot 1/2 moa with the right ammo (I've done it with 40 gr V-Max) scoped with one of my 4.5-14 mil dots. I also have a DPMS Lo Pro (16" heavy barrel)... 1/4" groups with 40 and 50 gr V-Max. DPMS makes quality ARs at a very reasonable price.
Post by: thinkingman on December 02, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
Are there any brands that are crap?Yes...Hesse/Vulcan are true garbage.
There are different tiers of AR's.
This opens a can of worms.
Post by: ADAMS on December 02, 2009, 10:29:44 PM
I've got a Bushmaster and a Noveske and as far as fit and finish goes, the Bushmaster actually looks a little nicer.
Would you eat a hamburger without milspec pickles? That is the question.
Post by: littlebuf on December 02, 2009, 10:35:45 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on December 02, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Shootmoore
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 02, 2009, 10:45:20 PM
Post by: littlebuf on December 03, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Post by: byrdman on December 03, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
Are there any brands that are crap?
Not too many, if any are still made but stay away from any cast receivers. It's almost not even worth mentioning but I did see a cast Hesse at one of the last gun shows I was at. It looked pretty crude. I think Olympic arms used to make some cast receivers and got a bit of a tarnished reputation over the whole thing, but it seems as though Oly product is as good of quality as anything else. And on the plus side they are local.
On a bit of a side note, since I like to support local businesses here are a few - Manufactures: Mega Machine, Olympic arms and Aero Precision. Some good local retailers that specialize in AR's: Rainer Arms, Surplus Ammo & Arms, J&S gun parts and Carricoz armory.
Be forewarned, if not kept in check, this can turn into a sickness.
Post by: Special T on December 03, 2009, 11:19:11 AM
Post by: littlebuf on December 03, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
LB maybe if we get another "Stimulus Check" I'll have to invest in your setup! damn cool gear, but it cost more than :twocents: right?
yeah its pretty sweet. after christmas is one of my favorite times of the year. i get a lot of yote hunting in. ive decided to take a brake leading up to christmas this year but after the holiday im going to hit it hard
Post by: GEARHEAD on December 04, 2009, 09:39:07 AM
My R15 is the most accurate rifle i have ever owned, about a half minute with hornady factory loads. i always used a .243 prior, and i can say that i wish i still was shooting that round. two out of three dogs i shoot now, require a follow up. if ya don't want to machine gun the thing, consider the R25 in .243 these rounds do cost money, so i'd only use the provided five round clip, lol. as for me, since mines a .223, i use the 20 or 30 rounder, Lol. the advantage of the .223 is the fun factor. best of luck.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 04, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
Post by: MasterMisser on December 04, 2009, 03:13:07 PM
this is my setup
Post by: KTMSMOKER on December 10, 2009, 06:52:49 PM
I wanted an AR style gun, but that is big money and like someone eles said kids and wifes come first. My dad has ( and never shoots) a Ruger mini 30. He has a scope and mounts. Ammo is cheap (7.62 X 39) and it is a fun little gun. My two questions are; is that caliber good enough for yotes, by good I mean flat I guess, and is the mini 30 an accurate enough gun for 300 yards? I guess I am going to barrow the gun, mount the scope and get her sighted in and give er hell. But any info from yall would be gr8 :)
Post by: Bofire on December 10, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
Carl
Post by: KTMSMOKER on December 10, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
Your Ruger mini 30 is a fine 100 yard coyote gun. 300 yards will require extreme holdover, about like a 30-30.Is this cause the rifle or the caliber. If I try it and get hooked I might concider a mini 14. Unless the mini is a poor rifle for hunting. I dont wanna blow the budget for a yote gun, but want an auto loader that can reach out. Kinda thinking I am pointing myself to an AR.
Carl
Post by: Shootmoore on December 10, 2009, 11:09:05 PM
Post by: Fishhog on December 11, 2009, 11:30:33 AM
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Post by: coop2424 on December 11, 2009, 11:34:33 AM
I love my my DPMS Varmit Special. 20" s/s barrel, Timney trigger topped with a Zeiss Conquest scope. Sub 1/2" groups @ 100yds
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I hope my DPMS Varmint that I just picked up shoots that well. Once I get some glass on it we will find out. What size scope did you put on yours?
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 11, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
I love my my DPMS Varmit Special. 20" s/s barrel, Timney trigger topped with a Zeiss Conquest scope. Sub 1/2" groups @ 100yds
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I hope my DPMS Varmint that I just picked up shoots that well. Once I get some glass on it we will find out. What size scope did you put on yours?
My DPMS 16" varminter will shoot sub 1/2 MOA all-day with various V-Max loads... I'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Post by: CastleRocker on December 19, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
The AR's have done more breeding and multiplying in my safe in the last year and a half, than all my other long guns combined. Be careful when you buy one, it will become an addiction.
Good luck!
Post by: Bofire on December 20, 2009, 10:27:59 AM
Carl
Post by: Gutpile on December 20, 2009, 04:34:05 PM
If the Ruger rifle is accurate at 300 yards is one question, the cartridge is a weak 30-30, at 300 yards it has extreme drop. You have to be able to hit a 6 inch circle EVERY time, at the range you are hunting, in all positions.
Carl
I think you posted in the wrong thread?
Post by: KTMSMOKER on December 20, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
Post by: FALFire on December 21, 2009, 06:10:17 AM
Naw he was talking to me. The 7.62 X39 (mini 30) is balisticly similar to a 30-30. Wonder if I could make some smokin hot loads for it.
:yike: :bdid: I would seriously advise against doing that. The bolts on the MIni's are weak and you will end up breaking it. About the only way to fix it is to send it to Ruger and they will be very happy to charge a butt load of money to fix it. Then it will only break again. The design of the MIni does not allow for hot rodding of ammo, it's an all cast gun, that is why they are cheap to make. I would purchase 10 bolt guns before dumping money into a MIni. Yes , I've had several, still have one left, never shoot it, don't want to.
Buy an AR and live happy.
You can modify an AR until your tongue turns blue and you will still never have all of the options.
Post by: Shootmoore on December 21, 2009, 10:57:16 AM
Shootmoore
Post by: Bofire on December 21, 2009, 04:52:40 PM
Carl
Post by: Bigbuckhunter_1996 on December 21, 2009, 06:03:47 PM
Post by: FALFire on December 21, 2009, 06:18:15 PM
I was just at the Oly site, it says that the 243wssm upper will go on an AR15.
Carl
Yes they sure do, I have one and it functions awesome. I've killed 5 muley bucks and several coyotes with it. Feeds everything from 55gr to 100 grain bullets without any problems.
Post by: KTMSMOKER on December 22, 2009, 06:48:48 PM
Post by: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 06:51:18 PM
Carl
Post by: KTMSMOKER on December 22, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Post by: FALFire on December 22, 2009, 07:10:40 PM
So the plinker is an ok gun to buy if you wanna shoot yotes?
Yep, it's the baseline entry level AR and it will do just fine setup properly.
Post by: Thefisherman83 on December 22, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Post by: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 08:23:55 PM
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 09:50:48 PM
I have heard alot of abd stuff about the Oly guns? The plinker I think? I was interested in a cheap AR, but heard they were bad.
Oly arms had a couple bad years, but everything before and after has been A.O.K. We bought a couple during that time that had bad headspace issues, they were fixed with no problem. Of course have a couple bad years and word gets passed around that your the suck.
Speaking of which I have an old Oly that I was thinking about trying for yotes. Problem is its a A2 upper with handle so any suggestions on scope mounting options. The rest of the parts are all high end including a Hbar match grade 16 inch barrel. It's a oldie but a goodie.
Shootmoore
Post by: actionshooter on December 22, 2009, 10:14:26 PM
Would that be a K3B flat top?if so sounds cool and light. 16inh, collapsable stock, it has front sights? or a gas block? $941.00 in the Oly book.Thats the flat top model. Thats an awesome deal and those guys are good to deal with also. It would be worth putting a couple away just for an investment.
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl
I think you know where the store is right?
Post by: Thefisherman83 on December 22, 2009, 11:47:34 PM
Would that be a K3B flat top?if so sounds cool and light. 16inh, collapsable stock, it has front sights? or a gas block? $941.00 in the Oly book.
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl
Yes sir that is the one. You can look it up on www.j&sgunparts.com.
Post by: denali on December 23, 2009, 01:10:15 AM
or .308 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn75-e.htm 32" barrel kel tec
you will pay a premium for either one, but you will not be buying a nother one soon. :twocents:
Post by: Bofire on December 23, 2009, 01:18:58 PM
Not really my cup of tea, I gotta have the good trigger and stuff right off, and I do not like the sight tower sticking up cause I am using a scope anyway.
Carl