Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Craig on December 04, 2009, 08:29:48 AM
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This kind of goes off the Colorado buck story. We don't know the whole story but it sounds like a pretty tame deer.
If you had the chance and everything was legal would you shoot a trophy size buck that was pretty much tame, everyone liked the buck and it lived in a sub division it's whole life? If the buck made one wrong move were you can shoot it would you?
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You mean if it was in my own back yard or something?
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If it was as big as that Colorado buck, not only yeah, but, HELL YEAH :archery_smiley:
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Maybe?
I've been chasing a huge blacktail that lives in my neighborhood (not this year) and ate my deer tag last year b/c I couldn't find him. Its not a subdivision but everyone around me has 3-30 acres and I have permission to hunt about a 25 acre parcel where he hangs out. He's definately not tame.
I guess what I'm getting at its not black and white. :dunno:
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I think there would come a time when I would be forced to shoot that monster "tame" buck, just to prevent him from dying of old age. :chuckle:
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No i would not.
If i lived where there were "trophy" deer hangin around and tame.
I would make a really nice mineral lick holder with an antler collector around it and enjoy the sheds every year.
And for venision, a nice tender younger non rutted deer tastes so much better.
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if the buck was actually tame, like the deer at wallawa lake, i would not shoot it, thats why the sport is called "HUNTING" for me the main thing about hunting is having to try hard to get close enough to the animal for a shot and not scaring it away, shooting a tame deer would not make my heart thump the way i like it to when i stalk an animal, it would be a boring waist of you tag. well maybe not a waist of the tag, but definantely a boring way to fill your tag.
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i would shoot it but i wouldnt call it a trophy, It's a bad example to the other deer so it needs to be shot right?
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Depends. Each situation is different. If I did, there would certainly not be any claim from me that he was anything but what he was.
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A game farm animal? NO! Just like I'd love to go on a guided hunt some day, I'll never go to a Texas style fenced in zoo of exotics either. That's not hunting. It's shooting.
-Steve
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like biginner said it is not tame eat out of your hands kind of deer, by the sounds of it. like the wallawa deer. just because a deer lives around people does not make it tame. like the elk in yellow stone. they will kick your ass if you f with them to much or get rut crazed. so yes since it is not tame in my book i would not have any problems hunting a deer just because it lives around people.
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ya, living around people does not make a deer tame, coming up to you to eat would qualify as tame, and yes, even though yellowstone elk are always around people, they will definatly kick your @ss, especially if you come within two yards of a cow elk feeding her fawns, to take a "close up photo" :bdid: (i know from experience) :bdid:
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Dad and I were in a bar in Yakima... A man in his 30's was sitting at the bar.... Drunker then a skunk... it was 10am... A truck in the parking lot had a nice two point in it.. (before 3 point min) Asked if it was him celebrating... He said no drowning his sorrows... Didn't know if he could ever shoot another deer.. Why I asked.. A friend said he had a bunch of deer on his property and wanted them scarred off and shoot the nice buck if he could... He was much obliged to hunt on private land... Pulls up at sunrise.. Heads around back into the field.... See's some deer with a nice buck making his way toward him... He couldn't believe it... Laid him down... Woke everyone up.. His friends wife and kids rush out to find him gutting (insert pet name here) and that they raised him this and that.. In tears. He was coming up to him for his morning treat... Don't know if it's true or not... But the guy was pretty tore up... :dunno: I found it very amusing... But that would really suck....
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I agree with the others.. Eat out of your hand..No.. Around people.. Yes. I hunt Central Montana where the deer flood into the Alfalfa fields in the evenings and they are 50 yards from the house and even come in the yard and eat roses and such. Tame? No.. Used to being around people.. Yes. If we put a sub-division in the middle of Big Buck Habitat should we chase them all off??
I had a huge Blacktail Buck in my neighborhood (1-5 acre lots) a coule years ago. Double Drop tine Non-Typ. You couldn't feed him out of your hand but he wasn't spooked by people either. You could walk up to within 10 feet of him and he would just slowly raise his head and meander away. I could have shot him but decided it wasn't my thing. If he was wild and skiddish and in the neighborhood I might have.. My neighbor shot him at 7 yards out his sliding glass door on the first day of Archery Season. He's such a great shot he hit him in the gut and he ran 500 yards before dying on someones back patio.
It's not Black and White.. There are a lot of variables. Would I have shot that Buck in Colorado?? If I was on a chunk of land that was legal to hunt and that buck ran by? Probably. Unless I lived in that development and then maybe not.. If it's not YOUR neighborhood I think people's opinion might change. :dunno:
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I shot my deer this year basically in a guy's backyard. They are used to people but I wouldn't say they are tame. The property owner, along with most of his neighbors want the herd thinned. I was happy to help out. Might do it again next year if I don't get one in the early season.
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I'm not opposed to shooting a "yard buck" I wouldn't call it a great hunt, but to fill a tag and the freezer, I have no problem with it. Now if it was a domesticated or high fence deer, I'd say no.
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Not my cup of tea, but the greatest need for harvesting deer is often around the urban interfaces, d/t collisions, garden/landscaping damage, etc.
Where I worked in WY, there was no hunting within city limits, and a subdivision south of city limits. We (Game and Fish) dispatched approximately 600 crippled deer a year. Many of the big bucks were killed illegally.
Would have preferred to have people who could hunt ethically and responsibly in that challenging setting, who wanted the meat, legally harvest those deer rather than letting bumpers, poachers, dogs and wire fences do all the harvesting. Those kind of situations seem exactly like the type of situation for actual "master hunters" to have additional opportunities - if we could only weed out the unethical, kill crazy, poor judgement types from the WA program ranks. maybe with time ...
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I think i would have to pass.
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats a trophy buck. i dont think i could pass unless i couldnt pull the trigger hes so big. :chuckle:
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well let me ask this, My neighbor raises buffalo and I was thinkin the other day if they were mine and it was time to butcher I'd drag out the hawkin and run maxi ball through one. Now I wouldn't take pics of my self like I was a mighty hunter or run around telling everyone how I bagged a buffalo with my punkin slinger so does that make me some kinda degenerate?
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Yes.
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Many of the blacktail around here don't see people to often, where you can hunt them. On the otherhand on the east side I see all those bucks in peoples yards, fields close to house and then each year all the guys hit the fields and shoot them. Is that like shooting a half tame deer?? Many are quite proud of those half tame deer they drove up to or near to shoot. :dunno:
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Where I hunt in MT, the deer come over the ridge behind the farmer's house and literally eat their yard and garden. They also wander around the all of the farm equipment right behind the house. Now, these are in no way tame deer. I poked up over the ridge on Nov. 8th and saw 3 bucks laying on the egde of the wheat field sleeping, after 20 minutes of waiting I decieded to see if iI could get them to stand up so I could shoot the bigger buck. I wistled at them, and they immiediately got up and took of running. So I was like *censored* I just screwed this one up, but they finally stopped a 475 yards and I shot the buck.
Seems like during hunting season the deer just know people aren't good.
