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Title: gates locked now what?
Post by: kenzmad on December 05, 2009, 08:09:50 PM: went to our road into stella this morning and the gates are locked. the area we wanted to hunt is too far to walk in so we have moved to the coweeman 550 area. anybody have any info on this area? we are looking at hunting the north and northeast side of the unit. are we on the right track? trying to get away from the crowd but it is hard to do with all the roads in here. any tips and we would be happy.

kenzmad
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: DBake on December 05, 2009, 08:38:29 PM: Quote from: kenzmad on December 05, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
went to our road into stella this morning and the gates are locked. the area we wanted to hunt is too far to walk in so we have moved to the coweeman 550 area. anybody have any info on this area? we are looking at hunting the north and northeast side of the unit. are we on the right track? trying to get away from the crowd but it is hard to do with all the roads in here. any tips and we would be happy.

kenzmad

Don't know the area, but WDFW and Google maps is how I start my research on new areas.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: kenzmad on December 05, 2009, 08:50:46 PM: I have looked at every site I can and I know that this is the site for helpful info. have hunted coweeman before with no success but I am sitting in a motel room in castle rock with my elk plans shattered and am now searching for a backup
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: DBake on December 05, 2009, 09:01:18 PM: Well, this is what I would do then.

1. Go to Wal-mart/Target and buy a $100 mountain bike
2. Lighten up your backpack to bare essentials
3. Go to that gate and park
4. Put on your backpack and ride in 15 minutes before shooting time
5. Good Luck
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: ridgefire on December 05, 2009, 09:08:49 PM: the locked gate may be a blessing in disguise. I would not let the locked gate shatter my elk hunting dreams. good luck and let us know how it works out for you
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on December 05, 2009, 09:13:58 PM: Start walking
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: littlebuf on December 05, 2009, 09:14:30 PM: no such thing as to far to walk, just leave earlier
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: dontgetcrabs on December 05, 2009, 09:18:56 PM: Do you know someone with a four wheeler? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Tony 270WSM on December 05, 2009, 09:19:53 PM: Quote from: littlebuf on December 05, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
no such thing as to far to walk, just leave earlier

Yep. You want to get away from all the roadhunters, right? Locked gates are the best places for that. Just walk.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: kenzmad on December 05, 2009, 09:34:18 PM: walking the 4 - 5 miles is not an option as my hunting partner and his son are unable to walk that far. did not mention that we are hunting with a front stuffer. thanks for you help

kenzmad
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: wildebeast on December 05, 2009, 09:34:36 PM: Looks like it started to snow in Castle Rock just now, so I would forget the bike. Dress warm, carry a nice lunch and walk. Should find elk sooner than you think.

I live on the Tower Road, just off the Spirit Lake highway on the Toutle River and it's small dry flakes so it should be great hunting in the morning.

cliff
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: spin05 on December 06, 2009, 08:04:05 AM: I used to muzzy hunt the coweeman. I cant remember the road# but i went in rose valley or head qtrs rd and went as far back close to the boundry of the toutle you can get.I think i was about 2 miles from the toutle and i was on the leftside of the main rd going in. Hope that helps
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM: Bummer that the gates are locked. I called Sierra Pacific to see why the gates are locked and they explained it was due to vandalism. It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere. The Coweeman is a good unit, you don't have to go way back into the unit to find elk, just go where other hunters won't, like steep, nasty holes that elk like to hide. Good luck.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: WSU on December 06, 2009, 08:30:58 AM: I hunted 3 or so miles into the stella unit this year for early muzzleloader, which gets you pretty close to the middle. The gates were closed, and it worked out great. I took my bike and mainly pushed it in up hill. Made for an easy ride out since it is down hill to the gates from pretty much anywhere.

As for coweeman, there are elk everywhere.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Shootmoore on December 06, 2009, 08:33:21 AM: Does not help this year, but someone mentioned mountain bikes. I always strongly suggest good mountain bikes in the hunting arsenal. We hunt elk down out of cathalamet and those MT bikes are great! We usually hunt 14 miles of road system a day with em (unless we get into a herd sooner) with our bows. You would be supprised how good the elk hunting can be behind locked gates.

For this year, good luck I hope your able to adjust your hunting trip to bring success. but for next year get that MT bike.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM: Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Angus on December 06, 2009, 10:03:05 AM: Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number

Good luck with that, I doubt 95% of the lazy *censored*s ever get off their quads to do much more then take a piss. :twocents:
Sure wish I could find 1 parked (behind locked gate) :chuckle:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on December 06, 2009, 10:19:19 AM: Good luck finding an area away from people in the coweeman. You would be better off behind that gate in stella. I wish they would close the gates in the coweeman.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on December 06, 2009, 05:09:09 PM: Just got home from a day in the Coweeman. Came in from the south. Found one gated road, which we hiked out. Was trying to find access to a clearcut we spotted elk in more than a mile off. Finally figured out they were 1/4 mile in on a posted private road. We did find some areas worth hiking but nothing turned up.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 05:38:15 PM: Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.

They have to catch them. I could write down someones # and say they were riding on their property. Do you really think it would hold up in court :rolleyes:

Nice try though, Sierra wants everyone to be scared....I do agree the 4 wheelers need to go though. But use my KLR 650 for hunting mostly. Being a multi purpose bike they dont tear things up. And will ride behind any gate I can get around. I dont think they are willing to do 75mph down them roads trying to catch me
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: washelkhntr on December 06, 2009, 05:43:12 PM: Quote from: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.

They have to catch them. I could write down someones # and say they were riding on their property. Do you really think it would hold up in court :rolleyes:

Nice try though, Sierra wants everyone to be scared....I do agree the 4 wheelers need to go though. But use my KLR 650 for hunting mostly. Being a multi purpose bike they dont tear things up. And will ride behind any gate I can get around. I dont think they are willing to do 75mph down them roads trying to catch me

People like you are why half the property in this state is closed. You just admitted to being a tresspasser. Someday you will get caught, its just a matter of time.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Dean44 on December 06, 2009, 05:55:30 PM: Quote from: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.

They have to catch them. I could write down someones # and say they were riding on their property. Do you really think it would hold up in court :rolleyes:

Nice try though, Sierra wants everyone to be scared....I do agree the 4 wheelers need to go though. But use my KLR 650 for hunting mostly. Being a multi purpose bike they dont tear things up. And will ride behind any gate I can get around. I dont think they are willing to do 75mph down them roads trying to catch me

Either way is trespassing when these areas are closed to motor vehicles. If I see you, I will take a picture of you and make sure that you can be identified along with the background to prove where you are. I will also do my best to make sure that you are convicted of criminal trespass.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: littlebuf on December 06, 2009, 06:02:49 PM: Quote from: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.

They have to catch them. I could write down someones # and say they were riding on their property. Do you really think it would hold up in court :rolleyes:

Nice try though, Sierra wants everyone to be scared....I do agree the 4 wheelers need to go though. But use my KLR 650 for hunting mostly. Being a multi purpose bike they dont tear things up. And will ride behind any gate I can get around. I dont think they are willing to do 75mph down them roads trying to catch me

your the idiot in the woods that all us real hunters willing to work for it hate. i hope your bike breaks down on you about 20 miles behind a locked gate :stup:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: kenzmad on December 06, 2009, 06:24:19 PM: OK, we are back in the motel from our coweeman hunt. 8am 1 cow and 2 legal bulls showed up on the road we were walking. 159 yards away with no shot available. could not close the distance to my comfort zone of 100 yards. will be back in the morn to try again. thanks to all who have given their advice.

kenzmad
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 06:28:38 PM: Quote from: littlebuf on December 06, 2009, 06:02:49 PM
Quote from: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: IBspoiled on December 06, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
It isn't keeping out the 4-wheelers though. My wife and I walked in 5 miles into the Ryderwood for late archery and there were 4-wheelers everywhere.
The 4 wheeler thing is frustrating, I talked to the sierra guys about that. If you can get the ORV # off of the 4 wheeler they can track down the owner and ticket them. I know it is hard to get this number if they are moving but if you see one parked just jot down the number and let Sierra's security guy know or call the office in Centralia and they will definitely act on it and be very appreciative for the info.

They have to catch them. I could write down someones # and say they were riding on their property. Do you really think it would hold up in court :rolleyes:

Nice try though, Sierra wants everyone to be scared....I do agree the 4 wheelers need to go though. But use my KLR 650 for hunting mostly. Being a multi purpose bike they dont tear things up. And will ride behind any gate I can get around. I dont think they are willing to do 75mph down them roads trying to catch me

your the idiot in the woods that all us real hunters willing to work for it hate. i hope your bike breaks down on you about 20 miles behind a locked gate :stup:

Wont happen, I carry everthing I need to fix anything on the bike. And with a 250 mile range on the gas tank. I dont use the bike all the time. and try to stay out of Seirra property. I have been caught. but show them my muffler stamp saying US forest service aproved muffler. Show them my shovel and fire extinguisher. My bike is Camoclad and has a gunrack on the back. Not #'s. Plain to see im hunting and not there to rip up the roads. They just say I cant be riding in to hunt and have to leave

Pic with bow in gun rack
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Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: kenzmad on December 06, 2009, 06:36:19 PM: Dirtbag, when you pull up to the gate and see the sign, what part of "NO MOTOR VEHICLES" confuses you? don't you feel even a little bad when you motor past the guys on bikes and horses that are doing it the right way?

kenzmad
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Basket Rack on December 06, 2009, 06:54:05 PM: Dirtbag, I am guessing that you are on sierra land on their Hamilton tree farm near Mt. Vernon. Not sure what their policies are there but I am talking about their Ryderwood tree farm in SW Washington and they definitely will not just ask you to leave if you are caught riding behind a gate in an area closed to motorized vehicles. I like others on this thread will do whatever I can to ensure those riding in walk in only areas are caught and convicted of criminal trespass.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: wildwood on December 06, 2009, 08:35:54 PM: I hike my arse off miles and miles and miles and miles on now sirrea land and will and have called the security person without saying names its NOT RIGHT GOING IN THERE WITH A MOTORIZED IF YOUR NOT WORKING PERIOD !!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Skyhigh on December 06, 2009, 08:44:42 PM: Dirt Bag...shame on you! especially after you gave your explantation on why gates are closed...

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=756988&page=2

your name fits you well!
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: alecvg on December 06, 2009, 10:00:32 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: ICEMAN on December 07, 2009, 06:10:48 AM: Holy crap what a moron.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Ray on December 07, 2009, 07:00:44 AM: He's a real class act. Above the laws and rules you know. I'll be looking for that bike on the back of a truck now.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Dipsnort on December 08, 2009, 09:32:09 AM: Quote from: Ray on December 07, 2009, 07:00:44 AM
He's a real class act. Above the laws and rules you know. I'll be looking for that bike on the back of a truck now.
I'm curious, does that bike look like it would tumble off a 1000' cliff with a little assistance? :dunno:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Angus on December 08, 2009, 10:37:31 AM: Quote from: Dirt_Bag on December 06, 2009, 06:28:38 PM
Wont happen, I carry everthing I need to fix anything on the bike. And with a 250 mile range on the gas tank.

Do you carry an extra fuel line, oh and extra gas :chuckle:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 08, 2009, 11:01:53 AM: I'll admit.. I'm lazy... :chuckle: But when it comes to hunting I work my ass off tyring to get away from the crowds and vehicles... If you blew by me on a closed road.... :bdid: Hope you bring a spare chain and rim too....
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Skillet on December 08, 2009, 02:40:32 PM: Opening day 1997, after busting my arse for an hour before dawn to get hiked in past the gate and getting to the draw I wanted to glass when daylight just broke, I hear this mosquito sound. Louder, louder, when finally he comes around the ridge on an old-school Honda 50, followed by a second. I was pissed, man. PISSED. I was set up to glass, they went right below me, never knew I was there. Hit the trail at the bottom of the draw and dissappeared up the hill, blowing every damn deer out of that draw.
Found their camp that night, and after stewing all day about that, I let them have it. Lots of jawing going on, ended with one guy motioned like he was gonna grab his gun, and my buddy saying it ain't worth it and I left saying that "Karma is a BITCH!"
I won't say what "Karma" did, but if one of you dumb suns-a-bitches that were on those Hondas are reading this, you know who you are, and you know what "Karma" did, and you got what you deserved. Boundary Mountain, 1997. And "Karma" would do it again, too. In fact, "Karma" is a downright nasty *censored* about that kind of stuff, and "Karma" is sure going to be looking for a camo'd out 2008-and-up Kawasaki KLR.

These guys have no respect, are just out for #1, to hell with everybody else. I say, to hell with them. I would be all about SSS here, but the bike is too big... but, hey, *censored*Bag is bringing his own shovel, so...
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: USAFpj on December 08, 2009, 02:54:09 PM: Holy crap Skillet, that reply will keep me in line for the next 30 years alone.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: woodswalker on December 08, 2009, 02:55:34 PM: skillet...I've been there and SORELY tempted...wished i had more sugar in camp....'nuff said..things were blandish the rest of the week.
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: Curly on December 08, 2009, 02:56:37 PM: :chuckle: :chuckle: Go get em, Skillet. :tup:
Title: Re: gates locked now what?
Post by: WSU on December 09, 2009, 04:49:45 PM: I had 2 dip*censored*s going flying by on motorcycles this year after I biked 4 miles into the coweeman. They just flew by with smug little grins. It sure did irritate me...