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Title: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 06, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
Went out Saturday morning and shot my first few ducks.  Went to pull up on another duck and the stock had spun slightly, okay.  Pulled up on the next and the stock slid off.  I have a Benelli SBEII.  I tried to place the stock back on, but it wasn't holding.  Pulled the stock off and the cycling tube had cracked at the end towards the butt pad.  All the threads were stripped out.  I ran back home, grabbed the pump gun.  Missed my next few birds, then got back on target and finished out my limit.  Anyways I went through the Cabela's catalog and they had what I needed.  Ordered up the SRM Performance Stainless Steel Cycling System.  Should improve performance it sounds like and hopefully fix the problem.  Second time I have broken a component on the gun.
Went out this morning and shot my Nova and did good on the mallards.  Shooting the pump until the part shows up.
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Post by: NWBREW on December 06, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: banannaclip on December 06, 2009, 06:31:40 PM
not yet :o
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: washelkhntr on December 06, 2009, 06:44:10 PM
I have the same gun and never had a problem. Let us know how the SRM Performance Stainless Steel Cycling System works out. Currious to see if it is worth it.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: boots on December 06, 2009, 06:47:22 PM
Yeah I have had it happen to me a few times. Not necessarily as serious as the stock falling off, but my Benelli M2 fails to cycle properly sometimes.

Its like the bolt doesnt fully lock after the first shot so i get a "boom" and then a "click" the next time I pull the trigger.  I usually dont have this problem unless it gets dirty/gummed up but it did it to me once this weekend and I had recently given it a strip down cleaning. Luckily it only did it once but I still dont understand why it happens.
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Post by: pjb3 on December 06, 2009, 06:58:22 PM
I too shoot a SBE and never clean her, totally abuse her in the salts and she never failed me yet :)
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Post by: shoot-em-dead on December 06, 2009, 07:15:36 PM
I sure am glad it never has because I don't pack enough TP for both of us.
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Post by: lokidog on December 06, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
Never that badly.  Had an 870 when I was a kid, gun jammed, unscrewed the barrel cap and the sping went jumping into the netherworld, had to shoot single shot the rest of the day.
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Post by: cascademountainhunter on December 06, 2009, 07:19:05 PM
hard to beat the 'ole remington 870...
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Post by: ducksdoom12 on December 06, 2009, 08:03:23 PM
never had problems that bad
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 06, 2009, 08:18:28 PM
I even called the Benelli to see if some of the factory loads were to hot for the gun as things were starting to break, but they said it would handle all factory loads.  They might have to change some things up once these new loads come out for 2010 that are pushing over 1700 fps.  We will see how many autos start having issues.
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Post by: wrangler on December 06, 2009, 08:38:15 PM
1700? :o wtf for? doesn't anyone lead anymore? lots of part failures comin up! 1550 is PLENTY.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: turkey buster on December 06, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
I had a problem last year with my mossburg 835 I bought this gun new the first year they came out its seen alot of shoothing. I was goose hunting and my first shot fired just fine, but when I went to cycle another round in the two in the magazine just fell out on the ground,so I reloaded and tried again and the same thing happened,that gun is retired and I will be shoping for a new gun soon
chuck
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 06, 2009, 09:42:38 PM
They found out that speed kills with steel shot.  In the past it seemed anytime you loaded steel any hotter than 1700-1750 fps your patter went to hell. With all the new shot wads coming out for steel it has allowed the wad to stick with the shot longer and hold a tighter pattern, so you don't get crazy spreads.  You will start to see more solid forward wad cups similar to the BlackCloud that are modified versions in the future.  They seem to pattern fairly well.  I touched off a round at duck a little to soon and I had to pull the wad out of the duck.  The Black Cloud wad stuck it like a cookie cutter or was stuck in the shot hole.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: jmoyer2 on December 06, 2009, 09:45:37 PM
benelli nova. jammed numerous times on me while birds coming in to decoys. I think I am going back to an 870
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Post by: boneaddict on December 06, 2009, 09:56:19 PM
Browning gold.  Took it to a gunsmith to have it professionally cleaned, and he didn't put it together right.  I didn't test fire it.  Hiked in a couple miles with dekes to hunt a pond, set them up, fired one shot, hunt done.  I was pissed.
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Post by: dontgetcrabs on December 06, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
NONE of my three 870s have ever failed in the field. Why would anyone shoot anything else?   :P                 
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Post by: dbllunger on December 06, 2009, 10:06:34 PM
Punched a primer on my 700, and it blew the tiny little disk back into the firing pin.  Locked it up tight 1000 miles from home.  Took the bolt apart and removed the disc.  Worked fine from that time on.  Had a horse fall on a rifle and totally screwed up the scope....that was a spare rifle hunt from them on.  Always why I bring a spare rifle and binos on all hunts.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: boneaddict on December 06, 2009, 10:15:35 PM
Tell me about it.  I think the 870 was the best action I ever had.  It was chanbered full choke only with 3 inch shells, so I sold it.  WORST decision I ever made.  I may not sell another gun.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 07, 2009, 08:09:48 AM
everyone needs an 870.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: CP on December 07, 2009, 08:33:04 AM
My 870 jams ever 3 or 4 shells when shooting Blackcloud.  Jams just about every time shooting Winchester trap loads.  Jams so much that I got rid of it.

On the other hand, I don't remember when one of my Browning A5s ever jammed.
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Post by: Sneaky on December 07, 2009, 08:40:13 AM
My 870 jams ever 3 or 4 shells when shooting Blackcloud.  Jams just about every time shooting Winchester trap loads.  Jams so much that I got rid of it.

On the other hand, I don't remember when one of my Browning A5s ever jammed.

A buddy of mine bought an 870 NEW  and first time out was having problems getting the second shot off. I took it apart and the plug was installed backwards in the magazine tube, not allowing the spring pressure to properly eject the shell. Switched it around worked awesome.

The next weekend, I bought an 870 3-1/2" synthetic from my cousin for 200 bucks, he said it wasn't cycling right. Turns out SAME ISSUE. I love the gun and have never had a problem since. Both guns had never been taken apart by my buddy or my cousin, just came that way from the factory.


My girlfriend shoots an A5 light twelve, its a sweet gun never had a problem.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: teal101 on December 07, 2009, 08:40:26 AM
Yep.

Winchester super x2.  Gun shoots one of every 5 shots.  Otherwise I just get a click and a light dent on the primer :bash:

Bought a SBEII and haven't looked back.
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Post by: GoldTip on December 07, 2009, 09:18:22 AM
Never had a problem with either my 870 remmy or my Benelli SBE.  Trap loads to 3 1/2" magnum turkey loads all cycle well.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 07, 2009, 10:04:53 AM
Anyone selling a Benelli SBEII.  I think I am going to pick up another one for a back up. 
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: mad-bomber on December 07, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
i have a rem 1100 and i drilled the port whole just a touch bigger since that i have never had it jam! i can shoot feather-lites and its fine. i have had ice covering the whole action and fired one off and broke the ice to pieces and this gun has never jammed. my buddies benelli has my 11-87 has. good old 1100.
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Post by: 270Shooter on December 07, 2009, 03:32:10 PM
My gun routinely takes a :crap: on me.
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Post by: CoryTDF on December 07, 2009, 03:36:49 PM
Dog shook water on my gun today and it froze. It took me 10 min and about 15 missed opportunities on back peddling ducks before I got it working again. :bash:
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Post by: jordano on December 07, 2009, 03:37:18 PM
when I am shooting, my shell will not eject all the way out when i pull the pump down... pretty frustrating.....  I have an 870. definately going to get the 887 nitro mag soon.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: boots on December 07, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
when I am shooting, my shell will not eject all the way out when i pull the pump down... pretty frustrating.....  I have an 870. definately going to get the 887 nitro mag soon.

are you short stroking it?
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: dontgetcrabs on December 07, 2009, 04:52:12 PM
when I am shooting, my shell will not eject all the way out when i pull the pump down... pretty frustrating.....  I have an 870. definately going to get the 887 nitro mag soon.

are you short stroking it?

 That made me laugh. I don't know why?   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: wrangler on December 07, 2009, 07:08:34 PM
Yep.

Winchester super x2.  Gun shoots one of every 5 shots.  Otherwise I just get a click and a light dent on the primer :bash:

Bought a SBEII and haven't looked back.

thats odd... id get a hold of winchester. iv had mine for 6 years, thousands of rounds through it and have never once had a misfire or a jam. i do keep it in tip top shape though, always cleaned and lubed, every time i shoot it.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: jordano on December 08, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
when I am shooting, my shell will not eject all the way out when i pull the pump down... pretty frustrating.....  I have an 870. definately going to get the 887 nitro mag soon.

are you short stroking it?

no... cause when I have to stop to hand pull the empty shell out it is all the way back.. I wonder if I am pulling back and going back forward too fast?
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 03:10:00 PM
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I wonder if I am pulling back and going back forward too fast?

More likely that you're not pulling back far enough. That is common.

As far as being too fast, I know guys that shoot nearly as fast with 870 pump as guys can with an 1100 semi-auto.

If you're shooting hand loads, there could be a feed/eject issue. There are much more knowledgable folk on here regarding shotie's, but cycling the action 'too fast' is not something I would think is the issue.

-Steve
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 03:14:51 PM
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Second time I have broken a component on the gun.

Anyone selling a Benelli SBEII.  I think I am going to pick up another one for a back up.


That's an awfully espensive shottie to be breaking parts on. And needing a backup for.

-Steve
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: jordano on December 08, 2009, 04:59:06 PM
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I wonder if I am pulling back and going back forward too fast?

More likely that you're not pulling back far enough. That is common.

As far as being too fast, I know guys that shoot nearly as fast with 870 pump as guys can with an 1100 semi-auto.

If you're shooting hand loads, there could be a feed/eject issue. There are much more knowledgable folk on here regarding shotie's, but cycling the action 'too fast' is not something I would think is the issue.

-Steve


ya there has been times where I can get 3 shots off faster than a guy I am with shooting 2 shots with a semi auto....  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: whitey on December 08, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
My Ruger Red Label Satin all-weather, the fore grip still pops off when I shoot it.
P.O.S.. :yike:
Paper weight..Its replacement is a Stoeger 200 max 4 camo.Shoots great.Should have bought 4 of them.Instead of 1 Red Label.. :bdid:
Maybe not its still a great gun,Just needs to be fixed.
They sent it back to Me still broken. >:(
Im pissed off with them(Ruger) A holes.. :bash:
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: h2ofowlr on December 08, 2009, 06:24:05 PM
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Second time I have broken a component on the gun.

Anyone selling a Benelli SBEII.  I think I am going to pick up another one for a back up.


That's an awfully espensive shottie to be breaking parts on. And needing a backup for.

-Steve
Tell me about it.  That gun should not be breaking.  The second time I broke the slide mechanism inside the breach the guy at Benelli, said I should not be breaking it?  I know, just loading it and pulling the trigger.  I clean it everyday after shooting it.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 08, 2009, 07:00:55 PM
Got 3 870's in the house. Not an issue with any of them... OK, not many rounds through one of them. I had a different 870 for many years. Ony issue was a broken firing pin. Happens with 870's I guess.

-Steve
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: ing on December 08, 2009, 07:17:17 PM
I had a problem last year with my mossburg 835 I bought this gun new the first year they came out its seen alot of shoothing. I was goose hunting and my first shot fired just fine, but when I went to cycle another round in the two in the magazine just fell out on the ground,so I reloaded and tried again and the same thing happened,that gun is retired and I will be shoping for a new gun soon
chuck
I had a problem with my 835 only once.  Pulled up on some woodies that I jumped and the damn safety was stuck. that was a short day.  I replaced the safety and have never had a problem with it since.
Title: Re: Has your gun ever gone to crap in the field???
Post by: TheSilverSlayer on December 09, 2009, 10:34:14 AM
Are you shooting 3" shells in a gun only chambered for 2 3/4"? 

I have a 1953 870 wingmaster in 16gauge that I bought for 75 bucks.  Hands down my favorite gun, thing is super reliable. 

I also have a savage 64F that I bought new.  Friggin thing misfires or jams everytime unless the action is spotless clean.
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