Post by: MtnMuley on December 10, 2009, 04:18:46 PM
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Post by: bucklucky on December 10, 2009, 04:43:32 PM
cstaxidermy@scattercreek.com
Post by: OneHorn on December 10, 2009, 05:00:34 PM
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Post by: OneHorn on December 10, 2009, 06:27:26 PM
Post by: mulehunter on December 10, 2009, 06:29:08 PM
Mulehunter >:(
Post by: actionshooter on December 10, 2009, 07:09:49 PM
Probably a Master Hunter :bash:
Why?
Post by: gmac on December 10, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 10, 2009, 08:31:32 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on December 10, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
Post by: bucklucky on December 10, 2009, 08:55:09 PM
Thats a hell of a bull right there! That just pisses me off.
Post by: Pazn25 on December 10, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
Post by: Red Dawg on December 10, 2009, 09:16:08 PM
Post by: remington300mag on December 10, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
These guys are no different than little Johnie.......all he needs is his ass beat real good and he will learn a lesson!!! :spank_butt:
Post by: bowhuntin on December 10, 2009, 09:26:53 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on December 11, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
Post by: PA BEN on December 11, 2009, 04:44:54 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 11, 2009, 05:17:06 AM
Why do people have to be *censored*s?Those are not people and especially not hunters their scum. Why do these people keep doing this? It's because they don't throw the book at violators like this.
Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2009, 05:37:52 AM
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Post by: Wazukie on December 11, 2009, 06:51:33 AM
Post by: GoldTip on December 11, 2009, 07:05:57 AM
it would be nice if the tribe stepped up and banned these guys from hunting if they are infact holding tribal permits. perhaps we need to make actions like this a bit more publicly known......to hell with "PC" this is what entitlement gets you.
Hell the tribe isn't gonna step up, why the hell should they. Hell the tribes just figured out how to get Obama to pay them 3 billion dollars, the tribes don't give 2 $hits about what these guys just did, and they never will. It's a damn shame I say that these kind of Indian are even allowed off their reservation without a passport and going through a border patrol. You want sovereign nation, then guess what, your Canada. You need to pass through border patrol to get in and outta your country. God this kinda thing makes me mad. Worst part for me is one of my very best friends and a college room mate is indian back home in Montana, he'd be disgusted by this.
Post by: MtnMuley on December 11, 2009, 07:47:34 AM
Post by: robb92 on December 11, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 11, 2009, 11:03:39 AM
>:(
Post by: C-Money on December 11, 2009, 11:16:37 AM
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Post by: Bobm on December 12, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
Indians would have ended up killing it anyways.
Post by: Pazn25 on December 12, 2009, 02:30:33 PM
I finally got to see the pics (can't see most forum pics while I am at work..Firewall) and I am sure I have live pics of this bull. CRAP! He was a fave because he was so narrow and yet such a huge bull. His swords especially on the one side were awesome. I've seen that bull for like 3 years. :bash:
Hey Bone, can we see the live pics?
Post by: firefighter4607 on December 12, 2009, 02:51:18 PM
the white guys with them probably gave them a lot of money to go shoot that bull, really sad to see.
Why would the "white guys" pay the "Indians" to go shoot the bull, Hell they were probably all in on it and just blamed the white guy to screw over the "white man" once again! >:( >:( Shame to see such a nice bull down without it being a legal kill.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 12, 2009, 02:53:17 PM
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Post by: OneHorn on December 12, 2009, 05:27:52 PM
Nice bull but I don't think it will go 386.Im pretty sure that bull is 386. The reason being is that the game department wouldnt send out an email with a guess of a score. Look at the tine lenght on it. :twocents:
Indians would have ended up killing it anyways.
My buddy saw it in the back of the game wardens truck and said it was unbelievable.
Anyways yes folks that is a damn shame that the bull had to die like that
Post by: fishunt247 on December 13, 2009, 12:55:49 AM
And it does go 386, I'll try to dig up the score sheet. Hope my email didn't delete it already.
Post by: dbllunger on December 13, 2009, 12:59:06 AM
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Post by: colockumelk on December 16, 2009, 05:19:55 PM
They both need to be equally punished no matter who shot it because they were all involved.
:yeah:\
I wish this is how it was. Unfortunately this isn't how the world works. Some people get special rights. And I'm not just talking about the Tribal/Non-Tribal thing. Many "haves" get off for murder (literally) when the "have nots" would have been fried.
It's too bad all involved couldn't get fried for this. But we all know that wont happen. It's unfortunate that those guys caught up there two years ago got off. It is a true shame. Our elk and deer are a limited resource and should be treated as such. The pathetic fines and penalties incurred against poaches is yet again proof that all the WDFW cares about is money and that our elk and deer are nothing more than four legged $$$$.
Post by: boneaddict on December 17, 2009, 06:19:38 AM
Post by: colockumelk on December 17, 2009, 08:23:59 AM
Of course with Gregoire we all know which group would be exempt from all fines and jail time.
Post by: boneaddict on December 17, 2009, 08:31:08 AM
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Of course with Gregoire we all know which group would be exempt from all fines and jail time.
Isn't that the frickin truth. Its probably what is keeping her at bay. She is undecided which cookiejar the most cash is in. To heck with doing what is right.
Post by: colockumelk on December 18, 2009, 05:20:55 PM
The mere thought of it still haunts me.
Post by: hirshey on December 18, 2009, 07:56:21 PM
Post by: bigtex on December 18, 2009, 11:52:09 PM
Yeah that is a good point bone. Where I blame the WDFW is in that they don't and havn't pushed to increase the penalties. Our legislature is dumber than a bag of rocks, they need to be lend by the hand. You are exactly right if the WDFW would take the time to explain just how much money they could make off of convictions with poaching and especially road violations Gregoire would be down on her knees :drool: about all that money.
Of course with Gregoire we all know which group would be exempt from all fines and jail time.
A couple of issues here.
1. WDFW or any law enforcement agency, does not set the fines for any law violations (from traffic offenses to poaching) the state supreme court sets the minimum fine for each offense. It is then upon the individual county if they want to increase the fine for the offense (they can only increase, not decrease), usually counties just go with the fine set by the supreme court, however some counties do increase penalties for certain offenses
2. WDFW basically sees no money from the tickets they write! Once again this is mandated by the legislature. All funds from WDFW tickets go into the county budget where the ticket was written or to fund the state police academy (which is where WDFW officers get their training). WDFW gets a straight cut from the state Public Safety Enforcement Account which several other agencies also get funding from. But other then that they get no funding from the tickets they write. This would needed to be changed at the legislature and would probably not change since most counties would throw a hissy fit over it.