Post by: MHWASH on December 10, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 11, 2009, 06:27:33 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2009, 06:29:23 AM
Post by: KillBilly on December 11, 2009, 06:33:37 AM
Post by: jjhunter on December 11, 2009, 07:05:31 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 11, 2009, 07:08:33 AM
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I'd roll with a 243 or 6mm. A.I.
:yeah:
I'm excited. Get this thing built so I can play too.
Post by: bighorns2bushytails on December 11, 2009, 07:28:28 AM
--BH2BT
Post by: Gutpile on December 11, 2009, 08:04:32 AM
go with a 243!! i really liked mine though i rarely got to shoot it. sorta wishing i never got rid of it. think my next rifle will be another 243.
--BH2BT
You just told me I didn't need one when I said I was gonna get a 243 or a 6. Now your shopping? That does it! I'm buying one for sure!! :chuckle:
Post by: jjhunter on December 11, 2009, 08:24:00 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 11, 2009, 08:26:22 AM
Hey Gut, you should check out the Savage VLP in .243 with the dtachable box mag. I think that is what I am going to buy. 55 grain BT's at 4K!
I was considering a savage. I want as lightweight a package I can find though. I've got the hankering for a 243 or a 6mm in a bad way.
Post by: woodswalker on December 11, 2009, 08:27:18 AM
I've got a Ruger stainless steel MKII short action rifle action. This will be a coyote rifle. I all ready have a 22-250 and .260. I don't care about a dual purpose caliber. I'm thinking .223, .223AI fast twist, 6mmAI, 20 TAC, 6-223, 25TCU. Give me your thoughts.
250 Savage Ackley Improved. Reach WAY out there, brings you stout 257 Roberts ballistics loaded with modern powders in a strong action...and works in your SA rifle.
The 250/3000 Improved offers performance equal to or better than the 257 Roberts. It will, for example, push the 100 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps, as compared to the factory 257 loading of the same bullet that is listed at 2900 fps. The commercial 250/3000 loading of the 100 grain bullet, incidentally, is rated at 2820 fps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackley_Improved
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.250-3000_Savage
http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w2503000.html
http://www.accuratereloading.com/250ai.html
Post by: Gutpile on December 11, 2009, 08:29:11 AM
Hey Gut, you should check out the Savage VLP in .243 with the dtachable box mag. I think that is what I am going to buy. 55 grain BT's at 4K!
10 lbs!!! :o My 220 swift weighs 10 pounds so I wont be going that route. That would be a coyote killing MF though!
Post by: jjhunter on December 11, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Post by: Gutpile on December 11, 2009, 08:48:49 AM
How much does the Savage Predator weigh? That rifle would be quick handling and accurate. Good calling rifle for sure! I am pretty sure they come in 243! Maybe I should look at that - good advice, self. :chuckle:
7.5 lbs. I've been thinking about that model. I'll race ya!!!! :chuckle:
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 11, 2009, 08:51:24 AM
The 6AI will push a 65gn bullet at 3950fps or a 100gn bullet at or more than 3,400fps. This edges the 243Ackley by a couple hundred fps in the heavier bullets, while a 243Ackley would be a bit better with the lighter bullets. That all eaquals a long range doggie buster!
While a 243Ackley isn't in your list...
If the rifle/barrel you already have is chambered in .243", then all you need is a smith to ream your barrel/chamber and you're in business.
-Steve
Post by: MHWASH on December 11, 2009, 07:08:24 PM
I don't really want,need another rifle, but this action was given to me, and I hate to waste it.
Post by: jdb on December 11, 2009, 07:32:58 PM
Post by: AWS on December 11, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
AWS
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 11, 2009, 07:39:23 PM
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For long range, would I really be gaining anything with any of the .24s over my .260?
I think most would consider your 260 as a dual purpose, varmint and medium game rifle. The .24's in the lighter weights, (lighter than you can go with the 260) will be scootin. If you're looking to shoot the 100gn bullets in .24cal, then no, there is no advantage over your 260.
Personally, with what you listed, (although you don't want a dual purpose round), I'd make it a .308 or go really small, like the .22-250.
-Steve
-Edit.. I went back and re-read your original post. Duh.. You've already got a 22-250. Somehow I missed that. So.. I stick with the 243AI.
Post by: ADAMS on December 11, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
"While a 243Ackley isn't in your list...
If the rifle/barrel you already have is chambered in .243", then all you need is a smith to ream your barrel/chamber and you're in business."
The .243 AI will give you more velocity than a 6mm Rem.
Post by: MHWASH on December 11, 2009, 09:35:51 PM
I've got a 243 that I bought for a long range coyote gun and never use it. It's too hard on fur and eats too much powder. If I need a heavy hitter I've got a 6x45mm that is crazy accurate and a 6mm-204 that shoots realy nice also. For hunting coyotes for fur I find the 222 Rem 223 Rem and a 22-204 just the ticket. I'm going to do some serious hunting with a 218 Bee this season also. I tried the 250 Savage and 25-204 both pushing 75gr HP's at 3150fps and was leaving football sized exit, nice deer cartridges but too much for coyotes. I'm going to try it again with 90gr GK's out here on the coast where there is a chance of calling some larger critters.
AWS
I was hoping you would chime in. The 6x45 or simular is real high on my list. What weights are you using and what kind of velocity are you getting with those bullets? Also, what length barrel are you using?
Post by: manfromspam on December 11, 2009, 09:58:32 PM
Post by: taylorpz on December 12, 2009, 08:51:56 AM
But, with all of these mildly exotic cartridges, I would factor in the availability of ammo. Sure you can get Ackley improved this, and fireball that, etc in your gun, but how easy is it to find the rounds? If you stick with .223 or .243 you can reasonably expect to be able to walk into most stores and find what you need. Others? Not so much. I would think you'll need to make a significant investment in loading your own ammo (especially getting/sizing brass). For lots of guys, that's also part of the fun, but just go into it with your eyes open. That ammo might end up driving how much you actually get to shoot.
Post by: Gutpile on December 12, 2009, 08:52:32 AM
Post by: longrange7mm on December 12, 2009, 09:10:41 AM
omg please do a .224 tth its the 6mm necked to .22 then you use a fast twist barrel and shoot heavy for caliber .22 caliber bullets. I think it pushes the 60 grain partition at about 3800 build it and allow me to live vicariously :drool:
22-243 you will only get 500 rds and be replacing the barrel but o boy. i cant wait im having one built with a huskemaw mounted on it for my misses christmas present :drool:
Post by: AWS on December 12, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi6.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy222%2FBrowndaug%2FPICT0031.jpg&hash=7b099959c3c78764dec3cd8aae4b9b8c110fde2e)
I'm also running a 6mm-204Ruger with 55's doing 3700fps and 60's at 3600fps, this might be a little hot for fur but I'm counting on the VG's not exiting.
aws
Post by: manfromspam on December 12, 2009, 12:44:03 PM
Post by: jjhunter on December 12, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
omg please do a .224 tth its the 6mm necked to .22 then you use a fast twist barrel and shoot heavy for caliber .22 caliber bullets. I think it pushes the 60 grain partition at about 3800 build it and allow me to live vicariously :drool:
22-243 you will only get 500 rds and be replacing the barrel but o boy. i cant wait im having one built with a huskemaw mounted on it for my misses christmas present :drool:
I built a 22-6mm about 4 years ago. Blueprinted 700 action, 26" fluted hart 8-twist, HS stock, 6.5-20x50 Mark IV......shoots 90 grain MK's at 3385 and 75 A-max close to 3600 fps. Extremely accurate and flat shooting.
Post by: AWS on December 12, 2009, 02:12:04 PM
AWS
Post by: Huntbear on December 12, 2009, 02:31:08 PM
Post by: MHWASH on December 13, 2009, 05:06:59 PM
Why not a .257 Ackley. With lighter bullets you are pushing 3200 fps, and you can load 115-120 gr. bullets for deer, still at 3000 fps. Bullet selection is good for reloading, and it will fit on your short action.
Nothing wrong with the .257 AI, or ever the .250AI, just a little too big gameish.
Post by: sako223 on December 13, 2009, 10:32:14 PM