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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: uplandhunter870 on December 22, 2009, 04:38:48 PM

Title: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 22, 2009, 04:38:48 PM: went out today hoping to call some yotes in. anyhow i leave the lowland draws and go up towards waterville and set up in a rock pile with a lot of brush overlooking a slew of wheat fields kind of close to a dirt road, used by locals to get off the plateau and down into the valley. got my back facing the road start calling, bout 15 minutes later i got a triple working their way in from way out in the distance.

i hear a car coming down the road and decide not to pay any attention to it hoping it will just keep on going and not spook the dogs. well the rig stops almost perfectly off my 6 so i cant see it without moving a bunch, the person doesnt know im there yet, im heavily brushed in, i keep hoping theyll get a rouse out of seeing the dogs and go away.

i keep working the mouse squeeker in hopes theyll move into range. the closest was about 350 and the furthest was at apprx. 500. the far dog must have been shot at before because we was not very accepting to my calls and he was holding the other two back by not moving.

heres where i got pissed, the guy in the car must have seen me after i had tried to readjust my position to get a better shot. well he sees me starts yelling dancing around honking his car horn and everything he could think of to scare the dogs. and scare the dogs he did those dogs were gone in a flash

i stood up and proceded to walk out of the stand, unloaded my rifle and slung it over my shoulder, walked to the road and then to my truck which was down the road a bit from him hidden behind a cut. he starts to lecture me on his moral delimma with hunting and killing and asks me if i have anything to say for myself. i really wanted to tear him a new one about messing with my recreation and hobby but i looked at him, probably the nastiest look ive given to anyone in a long time and said "my mother once told me if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all" then walked to my truck packed my stuff and drove off.

sorry if i sound like im bitching but i needed to vent, really hate when stupid people ruin a reallly good day

thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: littlebuf on December 22, 2009, 04:42:00 PM: i probably would have butt stroked him with my AR but i have a anger problem :dunno:
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Special T on December 22, 2009, 04:43:26 PM: I would have tryed for the 350 shot so i could rub his face in it! Make sure you remember that Plick, Carama sucks...
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: batch on December 22, 2009, 04:43:46 PM: you should have gotten his License plate number and reported him for harrassing you and see if he had anything to say for himself
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Woodchuck on December 22, 2009, 04:44:10 PM: Should have called the cops/gamies, is illeagal to haras (sp?) a hunter in the legal pursuit of game :dunno: we need to call more of those people in, maybe somebody will get the hint
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Buckmark on December 22, 2009, 04:49:52 PM: Had a simiular situation last friday deer hunting over on Whidbey, absolutely reconfirmend to me why i dont like hunting the west side (i know you were on the eastside). Unlike littlebuf i have had my fill of what happens when people get angry and calmly retrived my cell phone and took pics of them, there vehicle and there lic #, told them if they did not leave me alone i would call them in for hunter harrassment, they were not happy to say the least.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: saylean on December 22, 2009, 04:52:56 PM: Quote from: JIMKD8 on December 22, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
Should have called the cops/gamies, is illeagal to haras (sp?) a hunter in the legal pursuit of game :dunno: we need to call more of those people in, maybe somebody will get the hint
:yeah:

I guess thats why they call them 'antis' and not 'positivies'... ;)

Sorry bout the messed up set. The hunting gods will reward you down the line.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: woodswalker on December 22, 2009, 04:57:09 PM: you did the right thing...

I dont care what HIS moral dilema is...he had no right to interupt your hunt.

Other posters are right tho....I would have gotten pics of him, lic of veh etc and called it in....I've had good results with that. Tends to piss off the harrasser when they get a visit from John Law....too bad...so sad. :yike:

That MAY be what cost me the window and the gear in my truck too....so...be aware. THat particular person had best tread mighty light in the woods from now on... :tree1:
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: sisu on December 22, 2009, 05:01:37 PM: Quote from: batch on December 22, 2009, 04:43:46 PM
you should have gotten his License plate number and reported him for harrassing you and see if he had anything to say for himself
:yeah:
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 05:11:40 PM: I have found my camera to be a very good tool. for anti people, people that just dont look like they belong, I take the pic, sometimes they ask why, so I tell them.
Some kids hanging around the corner store alot lots of kids coming to thier car, so I started taking thier pics everytime I saw them. they did not like that! darn! They dont hang out there any more.
Carl
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Shootmoore on December 22, 2009, 05:11:57 PM: Report him, report him then report him again. Call an Enforcement Officer, he can have all the moral delima he wants, but he can't harass you in your lawfull pursuit.

Just like I can't harass the peacenicks who badmouth our servicemen although I sure would like to give them the #1 signal everytime I drive by em.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: PolarBear on December 22, 2009, 05:17:09 PM: You are a better man than I.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: billythekidrock on December 22, 2009, 05:23:41 PM: I agree with the camera comment and you may need one next time.

I often put cheap trail cameras with the flash taped over up around my parked vehicle. Only got a couple of passing vehicles and luckily never anyone "looking".
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: FALFire on December 22, 2009, 05:39:17 PM: I don't take kindly to that type of behavior, I would have walked around his car and stuck a knife into each tire on his vehicle then walked away calmly never saying a word.

I don't have an anger problem, I just deal with *censored* like that differently than most people.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: PolarBear on December 22, 2009, 05:41:12 PM: BTKR, good idea with the cam, I'm going to try that on my next outing!
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Machias on December 22, 2009, 05:49:08 PM: Quote from: FALFire on December 22, 2009, 05:39:17 PM
I don't take kindly to that type of behavior, I would have walked around his car and stuck a knife into each tire on his vehicle then walked away calmly never saying a word.

I don't have an anger problem, I just deal with *censored* like that differently than most people.

:chuckle: :chuckle: I like the way you think!
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Kain on December 22, 2009, 05:52:16 PM: Quote from: uplandhunter870 on December 22, 2009, 04:38:48 PM
Why must anti's ruin a good day

Because hunters dont turn their butts in when they break the law. There are laws there to protect us (hunters) we need to make sure they get enforced.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Kain on December 22, 2009, 05:54:12 PM: You would never get me to unload my weapon if there was man at the top of a hill waiting for me either. Glad there was no confrontation for you though.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: runamuk on December 22, 2009, 06:06:04 PM: Quote from: JIMKD8 on December 22, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
Should have called the cops/gamies, is illeagal to haras (sp?) a hunter in the legal pursuit of game :dunno: we need to call more of those people in, maybe somebody will get the hint

I turn them in.....even when I didn't hunt and hubby did I would call it in for them when the jerks who chose to live next door to a wdfw waterfowl area would set off firecrackers and such to scare the geese and ducks......they got a serious ass chewing from the game department and it stopped...turn them in what they did is illegal.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 22, 2009, 06:08:01 PM: didnt realize that there was any laws protecting us from being harrassed, always thought it was something we had to learn to deal with. i usually do have my phone with me but today i didnt for some reason, guess i thought i would be nice to be unplugged while out there today

i got a good look at him and his rig, not his plate though. i do believe that hes a local to the area. and with the results i got today from that stand minus the idiot antics, ill be back for sure and if he wants to go for round two, ill make sure to take all sorts of pics and the local gamie will be notified.

Quote from: Kain on December 22, 2009, 05:54:12 PM
You would never get me to unload my weapon if there was man at the top of a hill waiting for me either. Glad there was no confrontation for you though.

i unloaded my rifle right in front of him as a good faith motion, but what he didnt see was my concealed piece in my waistband. always have a backup plan as my granddad used to say
Steve
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Buckmark on December 22, 2009, 06:17:26 PM: Yep, hunter harrasment laws went into effect if i remember right in the late 80's or early 90's.
Man the good ole days of hunting the pheasant release sites in the snoqualmie valley with protesters there, shouting at us, blocking the parking areas and standing arm in arm to block the access to the fields, i can remember it like it was yesterday..
WAC 77.16.340
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 06:49:18 PM: :)Gary when you cut your finger do not whine! I favor take pictures tell them why and what you are going to do with them. I caught a guy dumping one time too, dumping garbage out of his truck, started taking pics. he re-loaded up and left.the camera is my friend as long as it is pointed away from me. :)
Carl
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: FALFire on December 22, 2009, 07:07:25 PM: Quote from: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 06:49:18 PM
:)Gary when you cut your finger do not whine! I favor take pictures tell them why and what you are going to do with them. I caught a guy dumping one time too, dumping garbage out of his truck, started taking pics. he re-loaded up and left.the camera is my friend as long as it is pointed away from me. :)
Carl

Pictures is evidence.

Gee Officer, I was never there. Poor guy with four flat tires, man what a shame, hope he had roadside assistance :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 07:16:42 PM: Devious...... or is that diviant??
LOL
Carl
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: washelkhntr on December 22, 2009, 07:22:39 PM: Should have B&%#H Slapped him!
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: whacker1 on December 22, 2009, 07:27:45 PM: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,6893.0.html

Here is the previous thread with the hunter harassment law information
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: FALFire on December 22, 2009, 07:55:47 PM: Quote from: Bofire on December 22, 2009, 07:16:42 PM
Devious...... or is that diviant??
LOL
Carl

Not at all Carl, Deviant would have been if I made him take his shoes off and walk away.

That ought to shut'em up. :mor:
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: demontang on December 23, 2009, 08:11:37 AM: Yeah that bs sucks seen. I get it when I go out in the field for work. I just have to be nice and turn them in after they leave. It still makes me mad but I work for the gov.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: turkey slayer on December 23, 2009, 08:24:11 AM: This really makes me mad, I haven't herd of any problems like this on the plateau. Not saying that you are a tresspasser but did you have permission to be on the property if it wasn't state land? sent a pm
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Straight Shooter on December 23, 2009, 09:42:26 AM: He was definitely in the wrong. You showed a lot of restraint. Not exactly sure how I would have handled it, but I know that I wouldn't have been as nice.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: CoryTDF on December 23, 2009, 10:36:52 AM: I'm going to start going to starbucks and blocking these hippie *censored*s from their venti chi Carmel frapichino whipped black tea spice brewed soy lattes. Maybe then they might understand how it makes us feel. I hate GD hippies. I would love to say that I would have just beat the hell out of the guy but more than likely That would just find me in jail. In the court room the guy would have his dreadlocks pulled up in a pony tail dressed in his best tie die shirt and hemp sandals. He would be crying hysterically and his therapist would be at his side hugging him and scolding me. I would be vilified and hunters as a hole would be blamed. It sucks but that is the coffee sipping organic granola world we live in. Did I mention that I HATE hippies?
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Ray on December 23, 2009, 10:43:51 AM: I think you did the right thing.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Bofire on December 23, 2009, 01:23:44 PM: :)I think its all about sex, those types never get laid.
Carl
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: Birdguy on December 23, 2009, 04:02:49 PM: I am glad you acted the way you did on behalf of hunters everywhere. Still sucks. We would all like to handle it our way but deep down we all know nothing good will come of that (besides a few moments of stress relief ;)) and another and headline against our sport. Better luck next time. Preparedness is the key. Take a camera and a cell phone. It is funny what happens to those folks when they know they are wrong and you call them on it.
Title: Re: Why must anti's ruin a good day
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 23, 2009, 05:33:13 PM: didnt expect this kind of reaction and support, thanks everyone.
Quote from: Birdguy on December 23, 2009, 04:02:49 PM
I am glad you acted the way you did on behalf of hunters everywhere. Still sucks. We would all like to handle it our way but deep down we all know nothing good will come of that (besides a few moments of stress relief ;)) and another and headline against our sport. Better luck next time. Preparedness is the key. Take a camera and a cell phone. It is funny what happens to those folks when they know they are wrong and you call them on it.

yeah Birdguy i really wanted to just tear into the guy but i figured at that particular instant i wasnt just an individual hunter, i represented all hunters, so i acted how i thought a true sportsman should.

turkey slayer--- sent a pm

thanks
Steve