Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: ridgefire on December 28, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
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right now i shoot a 870 wingmaster but want to get a auto. just wondering what auto you guys have had the best luck with as far as dependability and durability are concerned. the new vinci looks to possibly be it but seems kinda spendy
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I have a remington 1187 that I have not had a problem with but i can only shoot 3"
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I would get an M2 over the vinci
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Browning Silver or Gold.
Winchester SX III.
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Beretta AL391
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Beretta AL391
x2
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I have had my SX3 for 2 weeks now and absolutely love it and would recommend it to anyone looking for an autoloader
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Im in the same position as Ridgefire, have shot an 870 virtually my whole life. Shoot well with it, but several "hardcore" buds shoot SX3's and are trying to sway me to one. For those of you who have them, do you have the 3" or 3.5"? 26" or 28"?
I have heard nothing but high praise for these guns, but they dont give them away. Friends keep saying "you wont regret it" but hey, I dont think I have ever regretted a gun purchase. But I can buy 4 870's for the price of the SX3!!!
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I have shot a Browning BPS for 15 years and an 870 for the last 30 seasons and really like the pump guns. My next one is going to be an auto. I can't afford the spendy ones so I'll probably get a Stoeger, Charles Daly or an H&R when the time comes. I've talked with guys that have them and really like them. If you have a gunshop/gunsmith you trust, you could always go with a good used one that's a few years old. :) :)
gadwall
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You should get a benelli. I just got a left hand M2 and it is one awsome gun! Yeah I guess it kicks a little bit for a semi, but I would be willing to bet the inertia system is one of the most reliable ones there are.
Only problem is you'll need to buy more shells because the benelli's like to eat! :chuckle:
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I have a winchester super-x2 I am willing to part with for 550.
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I also have a Winchester SX2 that I am going to throw up for sale. I am going to try out one of the Beretta Extreme 2 for next season. Currently have the Benelli SBEII, but have been having some neck issues and I shot the Beretta and it didn't seem to bother me.
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I have a 26" barrel on my SX3. I usually shoot 3" 1 3/8 ounce #2 shells. Caliber, your friends are right, you will not regret buying one. While you can buy 3 or 4 870s for the price of a SX3, the SX3 is an investment that will last many years and averaged out the initial purchase price will seem small. The 870 is a bulletproof pump gun. If you want a bulletproof semi auto, you will be spending a good bit of money. Do you need an autoloader? No. Are they nice to have? Yes. That is all that it comes down to.
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super black eagle 2
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I have a winchester super-x2 I am willing to part with for 550.
3 1/2" chamber? Black? Camo? Barrel length?
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gadwall: Let me make a recommendation. I have pump shotguns but also wanted to go semi-auto. Stoeger is a good gun but I didn't get one only because of the recoil - Inertia guns have more kick. So, I purchased one of the new Weatherby SA08 Semi-Auto guns. They like so many today are Turkish made but Weatherby has the Turkish factory make it to their specifications. I am very impressed with the gun considering the price. I paid just under $489 for it at Outdoor Emporium in Seattle. It's their synthetic model. The camo and wooden models are a little more. The reviews on the gun are great and I think it should hold up under extreme conditions. Is it a Beretta or Benelli? No, but it's a darn good gun and great value.
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I have the Beretta Extrema2 and love it. It will be my go to shotgun for a long time. I like it so much I use it for upland birds most days although it is a little heavy to pack up and down chukar hills all day.
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Original SBE :IBCOOL:
Its rusted from the salts and I never clean it, NEVER failed me!!!!!!!!!!! :)
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gadwall: Let me make a recommendation. I have pump shotguns but also wanted to go semi-auto. Stoeger is a good gun but I didn't get one only because of the recoil - Inertia guns have more kick. So, I purchased one of the new Weatherby SA08 Semi-Auto guns. They like so many today are Turkish made but Weatherby has the Turkish factory make it to their specifications. I am very impressed with the gun considering the price. I paid just under $489 for it at Outdoor Emporium in Seattle. It's their synthetic model. The camo and wooden models are a little more. The reviews on the gun are great and I think it should hold up under extreme conditions. Is it a Beretta or Benelli? No, but it's a darn good gun and great value.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Gadwall
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My cousin shoots a winchester sx3 and has had great luck with it. I've shot it and it comes right up to the shoulder comfortably, almost no recoil and has never failed him. I'm an 870 man myself.
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Like most everyone else I too have shot a 870 for close to 40 years. When I looked for a new gun to shoot 3 1/2" shells I went to the 11-87 Super Mag. It is based on the 870 in stock drop and feels just like the old favorite 870. Right out of the box I was shooting it as well as the old gun.
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I can recommend what not to get. do not get the new remington 887, its a piece of $#!T. if anyone disagrees, mine is for sale, it does work, so far anyways, only 12 shots or less so far. only two weeks old.
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I would get an M2 over the vinci
Why?
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I can recommend what not to get. do not get the new remington 887, its a piece of $#!T. if anyone disagrees, mine is for sale, it does work, so far anyways, only 12 shots or less so far. only two weeks old.
Why is it a POS?
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I would get an M2 over the vinci
Why?
Well I guess I am just partial to the M2 because I am left handed and they dont make the Vinci left handed. But really, the vinci does cost a little more, and is probably the ugliest shotgun ever made (I know, I know, its a duck gun, but still.) I guess the vinci would be a little easier to clean, not that any of the benelli's are tough to clean.
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do not get the new remington 887, its a piece of $#!T.
+1
2 weeks is all my buddy kept his
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Well I guess I am just partial to the M2 because I am left handed and they dont make the Vinci left handed. But really, the vinci does cost a little more, and is probably the ugliest shotgun ever made (I know, I know, its a duck gun, but still.) I guess the vinci would be a little easier to clean, not that any of the benelli's are tough to clean.
I can relate as I shoot left handed also. FWIW, I agree w/you about the Vinci™.
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so have you picked one yet ridgefire?
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i've seen a remington870 quit out from the weather while my nova kept cycling just fine
i've seen a mossberg crap out from sand while my nova kept going strong.
any gun is a good gun. i want two of each, just saying what i've seen.
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have not got one yet prob gonna wait till the season is over till i start really looking been researching some of the guns mentioned and kinda like the 11 87. the 870 fits me perfect so if the 11 87 is the same feel it is something i wil def look at. have not ruled out any guns though thanks for the replies :)
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re the 887- 12 shots and you dont like the gun? not much of a trial run... if you want to sell it, name your price. I might be interested.
I would stay away from Charles Daly autos. Took a friend out last weekend and it cost him dearly when the gun wouldnt cycle and he had to go back to the car and grab my backup gun. I always pack an extra pump :)
I have been looking into an auto after shooting pumps for years. I am trying to decide between the SX3 and Browning Silver.
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I have had my Winchester X2(28" barrel camo) for 9 seasons now and I love it, I have a couple of buddies who have the new X3 and they love them as well. I am too cheap and mine is still working great :twocents:
Ryan
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got it at cabelas two weeks ago, with tax about 490, yours for 375. it does look really nice, best boat paddle i have ever owned.
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Ridgefire:
I've got an 1187 for sale in the classifieds on this site. Let me know if it's what you're looking for and maybe we can make a deal.
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I have a SX2. Piece of trash. Lasted about 2 seasons before it started mis-firing shells. It was always cleaned around every 100 rounds or after a wet hunt. It would strike the primer of the shell, but not hard enough to ignite it. Winchester sent me a longer firing pin that still didn't cure the problem. It shoots 1/3 shells right now. it's a 3-1/2" synthetic black auto with a 26" barrel. Also the sling swivel on the magazine cap decided to break one day while I was carrying it and the barrel flipped back straight down into the dirt. >:(
Got a Benelli SBEII half way through this season and haven't looked back. Easier gun to clean imo and it shoots every time I pull the trigger. Very happy with this gun!
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SBE I don't like to work when i'm shootin just focus on the next target and pull the trigger, I affectionaly refer to her as Black Death.
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I'm shooting a Mossberg 935 in Shadowgrass for Waterfowl and Turkeys. I have a 24 in barrel with fiber optic sights front and back for turkeys. Also have a 28 in. barrel for waterfowl. Good gun for the money.
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I shoot an old used 11-87 I bought from a friend. Never fails to function. I also shoot my Browning A-5 magnum 12 from time to time. I brought down 7 ducks with 7 shells a few weeks ago with the browning. both are fine shooters.
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I have had a Mossberg 935 for 4 years i think and it has been a great gun for what I paid for it is very dependable, but I have been thinking about buying a new gun that will shoot 2 3/4 and 3 1/2 as the Mossberg will only shoot 3 and 3 1/2 so I really cant shoot skeet for practice. The Mossberg is Ca mo and has never let me down
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Lol, Chaos, guess ya didn't like the price, well two trips out with it now since i posted last, total of four fail to fire, maybe bad kent ammo not sure, but has failed to extract a fired round six times, four yesterday, put about 35 rounds more thru it, still having problems with the slide locking in the foward position, ya have to shoot, push foward and then pullback. anyways yeah, dont get a remington 887, i would recommend the browning auto mentioned, the remington 1100 and 1187 are real good, and i do like the remington 870.
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I would get an M2 over the vinci
:yeah:
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GEARHEAD I think that there may be a problem with the Kent shells brass over expanding, that may be causing the non-extraction. Been having problems with that on the Kents.
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Gearhead- I disagree with ducks55. I have seen the same problems that you described in my buddy's 887. While he was shooting Kent shells, he also had the same problems with Winchester and Federal. IMHO- bad gun that needs more R&D
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good
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Kbyers- not saying thats the problem for sure just stating it may be a possibility. I do personally think the 887 is a poorly made gun, but shells sticking in barrels happens to more than just the 887. The brass does over expand on them. Take a look at an empty kents brass and a loaded shell. You will be able to see a difference in the depth on the lip on the brass.
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Been shooting a Browning Gold 10 gauge auto for years now. Bought it to compensate for the lackluster performance on the early 3" 12 gauge steel shot. Love it, but each year it seems to get just a bit heavier.
With the high cost of 10 gauge shells, a shiny new 1187 12gauge in 3 1/2" is starting to look pretty good.
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I have an 870 and like it a lot. But then I spent the money and bought a benelli and I went from being a good shot to an even better shot. It's amazing the amount of birds that any novice can kill, and how a seasoned shooter can become even better with one of these guns. I am extermely hard on my equipment and use it to the max, and I have never had a single problem with this gun. I shoot the super black eagle, and of all of the benilli's out there I like it the best. DON"T SKIMP ON YOUR EQUIPMENT. If you think about it you buy licenses, tags, gas,food,and ton of other things in your life, and when you go cheap your typically either not happy with the purchase, or you end up replacing the item you bought. I don't own a u-go I own 4 dodge ram 4x4's for my business, ,and my play because they get the job done and I don't have to worry about being dissatisfied. Buy the benilli,kill more birds, and don't look back. Keep on hunt'n!
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does the super black eagle require to be cleaned after each use i never clean my 870 except wipe it down with a rag real quickly after the hunt if i remember to i am looking for that in a semi is this possible or should i be sticking with a pump
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I try to clean my Benelli SBEII after each outting. That way I don't have to worry about possible jams.
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I have been looking really hard at the browning Maxus. I haven't read anything bad about it yet but don't know anyone who has shot it but it is definetly on my hit list. I have a browning bps and winchester sx2. I have been shooting the winchester this year and have had several soft hits on primers as well and last weekend the cartridge stop dissappeared out of my gun out in the blind. Just freaking gone >:( Turned my autoloader into a singleshot. I shot really well that day for some reason :chuckle: gonna fix it and sell it, down payment on my maxus
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If I ever decide that I need a 3 ½ gun I will definitely go with the browning Maxus. I just wish they made it with 30” barrel.
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Anybody have experience with the Weatherby SA-08? Weatherby makes a good gun, and the pricepoint makes it worth a look.
Any thoughts?
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Beretta Extrema 3.5 inch, has never failed. Excellent shooting gun.
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waiting for the new mossberg with 4" chamber,to shoot those new super mag shells by black cloud,4" shell wow that will put them down :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:
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waiting for the new mossberg with 4" chamber,to shoot those new super mag shells by black cloud,4" shell wow that will put them down :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:
:dunno: is it necessary.....no..... would i buy one.......yes.
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waiting for the new mossberg with 4" chamber,to shoot those new super mag shells by black cloud,4" shell wow that will put them down :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:
:dunno: is it necessary.....no..... would i buy one.......yes.
you made me look for one.
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IMO the Franchi I-12 is an excellant all around gun, 3'' mag or 2 3/4 inertia driven no internals to mess with to shoot different loads, never jammed on me just a reliable gun. mine is a 28'' barrel. slim and light weight, I had the sx2 and basically gave it away had nothin but problems,jamming,broke a firing pin and never patterned good. maybe it was because it was a first gen?. I shoot Black cloud #2 threw a carlsons mid-range most of the time, and on blue bird days when they fly a little higher and are weary, Pattern master ported extended range Remington #4's excellant load, will shoot with any 3 1/2. But Benelli does own them now thats where the ID action came from. Just remember, we can all feed people full of info, but it is what gun gives you best fit when you pull up.