Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: jdb on January 19, 2008, 09:39:55 AM
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anyone carry concealled? if so what? why? and how?
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Always!!!!! My everyday firearm is a 92F with Crimson Trace laser grips sighted in at 25 yards. I put about 45 rounds a month through it.
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Yep, Sig Sauer P-226. Because I can.
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That's actually my New Years Resolution........To get my concealed weapons permit. Right now I have a S&W 38 speacial +p with Speer GoldDot 135 gr GDHP loads. It's small enough and handy enough for carrying concealed. My Ruger Vaqueros are just too bulky. I need to get my application done.
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Yep, Sig Sauer P-226. Because I can.
:tup: Thats what I pack too.
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anyone carry concealled? if so what? why? and how?
Yep I do. If you have to ask why then you'll never understand. The how and what is my business. Lets put it this way each weapon has a different body placement.
For the record it's concealed
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I've been robbed at gunpoint before... 20 paces away from an armed security guard :rolleyes: Granted that incident ocrurred in Savannah, GA but when I do carry it is a Keltec P3AT.
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Yes, everywhere i go. Glock 23 40 cal. Why? Too many nut jobs out there.
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Sisu sorry bout the spelling. and as for the why, I also carry and I understand why I do but diffrent people have diffrent life styles. For instance some may live on a large ranch and carry a single action .44 everyday to fend off wild critters others may live inner city and carry a uzi to ward off the gangbangers. I just have an interest so I asked, also I am trying to get enough posts so it doesnt say greenhorn next to my name so I been kinda gabby JB
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OK jbd, now I understand.
Carry because of some things that happend to us as younger adults thinking the world was a safe place if you left everyone alone and just went your merry way. After a couple of encounters of the close kind we started packing.
We believe in carrying 357s and 45 ACP. The way we figure that into the equation is shoot to knock down ASAP. As to the how that depends on the pistol or revolver being used.
As for your comment of ranch packing from what I've seen in Montana and Idaho most of the ranchers and farmers carry 223, 22LR 22-250,30.06, 30-30 in gun racks in the pickup, or farming rig.
Sorry about the grip about the spelling, but I am the world's worst speller so I use spell check ALL the time. Did not mean a thing about it.
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Either a KelTec P3AT, or a Taurus PT 24/7 45 ACP.
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sisu no problem man! I am an ok speller most of the time but my ability to properly punctuate. is horrible I am also the worlds worst typer!
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Yep. S&W M&P .40. With 16 rounds, I should be able to get the job done. ;)
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I carry a SP101 ruger 5 shot .357, small and easy to conceal. If I need more than 5 I have real problems.
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Or multiple targets. :chuckle:
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glock 27, 23, taurus 450ti, or my current favorite, the S&W 1911pd w/dual colored night sights and lots of work. what ever you carry be very familiar with it.
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Glocks.....and yes that was intended to be plural.
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Glock 19
Cause I can, same as the others
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I carry for the purpose of protecting myself,my family or any other person from harm by some crazy freak. I have the means, the ability, and the attitude. I will slip in to darkness to protect the ones I love. Anyways I carry a springfield XD40 sub compact,love this little dude. The Blackhawk CQC with serpa lock is a great holster.
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That XD sub looks really cool. Would love to try one...
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Yup, Sig 229 w/3 12 rnd clips. Used to be a Para 14-45 til some cheese dick stole it :bash:
But I LOVE my sig, it eats everything I put through it. now using Gold Dot.
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XD 40 in .40 S&W of course. I don't carry it because I want to, I do it at certain times because I need to. Sometimes clients get unruly, or their family, or their friends, or their fellow gang members, or their russian mafia friends...
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or their russian mafia friends...
Getting to be a lot of those around lately :dunno:
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I actually quit carrying Colt .380 a couple of years ago, because I was getting so pissed at these stupid drivers on I5 and 405 that I was afraid I might actually use it on one of them....I knew even pulling it out and waving at them would get me locked up, so I quit carrying it in my car back and forth to work....although lately with some of the stuff that has happened, I've been contemplating carrying it again...
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once im 21 i will get mine, but thats 4 years off
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I would use a glock 10mm but its not legal for me to do so.
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I actually quit carrying Colt .380 a couple of years ago, because I was getting so pissed at these stupid drivers on I5 and 405 that I was afraid I might actually use it on one of them....I knew even pulling it out and waving at them would get me locked up, so I quit carrying it in my car back and forth to work....although lately with some of the stuff that has happened, I've been contemplating carrying it again...
Get some baroque period music and play while commuting it's soothing on the soul. I live other music but for I-5 and 405 this is the way to go. Just pop in the CD, lean back in the seat, drive and form a large comfort zone for yourself.
The attached web site will allow you to pick out a artist or two.
http://www.baroquemusic.org/
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I carry because I can. My wife carries because she commutes for an hour and you never know what will happen. Two months ago some greaser car thieves pointed a gun at her. I was hunting in Idaho at the time otherwise things might not have been as civil for them.
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Currently it's just my Browning Hi-Power. Spotted it on the shelf, Two Tone, Belgian roll stamp. bought it. I miss my SP101 .357 really nice for summer time carry.
FWIW I found G.A.S. on line in Vancouver Wa. They had Browning factory made 17rd mags for 23$ (this was some years back)
Why? I got my CPL primarily because of run ins with feral-semi feral dogs while Hiking & Mt. Biking. Wanted to be all legal and careful. Yes you can transport Handguns unloaded in a case w/o a CPL yadda yadda...but I firmly believe if you have a handgun with you it needs to be in a holster attached to your body.
Unless I'm going out for a few beers I always carry. Too many idiots, crazies.
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Having the permit is a great piece of ID as the Law knows you have been checked out. It makes buying guns easier.
I carry 24/7: Kimber Procarry II, 45acp.
Carl
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Having the permit is a great piece of ID as the Law knows you have been checked out. It makes buying guns easier.
small note Washington Mutual honors a CPL for check cashing, first merchant I've seen do that.
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I don't know why you WOULDN'T have a cpl. As mentioned, it's good id. Even if you don't carry on a regular basis, there will be times you'll be glad you can.
In my opinion, the Kel-Tecs are the best value in concealable guns.
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The longest I've been without some form of a gun is one month, that was when I moved here in June, had to wait till my Washington Permit came in... Winter days, Carry a Kimber .45, cause it will stop what ever I need it too, and I shoot it it very well.....on the other days the Glock .40 works better for lighter clothing... I am a firm believer, I will not pull it out ever unless I am going to squeeze three off.
Too many things get out of control from folks that believe showing it will make someone back off. My experience it is the opposite, folks get very nervous quickly when a gun is brought into play, they do things that they would not normally do if there wasn't one. It pushes someone to make a decision quickly, (it's like that fight or flight sense all animals, including humans have) so unless your meaning to kill them don't pull it out... We as gun owners and especially as conceal owner owe this to society, if we wield it like the morons, crackheads, gang bangers were carring it for then we are no different in any manner.. Keep it holstered till you need it, then don't question why you pulled it, use it.... Never shoot to wound and always give yourself a alibi while shooting yell something like Stop! Stop! Stop!, Back-Off!, Put Down the Weapon!, etc..... while your shooting, the last thing a witness or anyone in court will remember in all the confusion, is you yelling STOP! to the individual coming towards and threatening the life of you or your family..... And for goodness sake always make certain you know what your doing, practice pulling from holster, shooting close quarters 3-7 meters, cause if your shooting past 15 meters, your life is probably NOT in danger and better have a valid reason why you had to shoot, or get to know PopeShawPaul real quickly....
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Cohoho, very good advice. I have had a CPL since that program started, but I seldom carry. I would if I thought there was a reason. Way back I would meet the town law officer on the street, give him $1.00 and a few days later he would bring me my permit, must have been the officers decision if you got one or not. After a few years you had to go to the county court house and get finger printed, now it's a big deal just to get it renewed and if your a day late it's like getting it for the first time.
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When I carry, in summer it's usually AMT Backup in .380 - in a little Bianchi clip holster, I can even wear it jogging in just running shorts and a tank top. Cold weather urban, depends on the mood; M1911 Colt .45, Beretta 92F 9mm. Hiking, Ruger Security Six stainless with Pachmayr grips .357 Mag. Except for one year in Wyoming, I've had a CPP my entire adult life. My first one was issued by the police chief in my town in NH for $2.00; my last one, by the Chelan Co. sheriff for $85.00. Either one's a bargain.
These handguns are all old enough to have good factory triggers!
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Cohoho, I also appreciate your comments. Very solid. I agree that the gun doesn't get pulled out unless a lot of factors line up. One that should really be considered is the shooter's proficiancy under stress. Uninvolved people get hurt around incompetant shooter's. Those who carry should practice under stress, handycapped in some way. Different possitions, laying down, off hand, do 20 push ups first and give yourself 2 seconds to shoot 4 rounds...on target. A 2' shot on a mugger is one thing but if you have to aim at all you'd better be the man in a public place.
Sisu mentioned the experiences in our youth's that affect our decision to carry. My allowances for a civil community just recently maxed out and my wife was the most at risk. I am currently pursuing a good carry auto, (maybe a Walther or a CZ) because I think close calls only mean there was a fluke. We're blessed with no real harm done.
The world can be a tough place. I've seen the twinkle in the eye. If you intend to conquer a man he see's it in your eye's. I've seen that as a competitor. To bring it full circle, Cohoho spoke well, If a guy feels like THIS IS IT he's gonna do something bold. Controlling the pace as much as possible means the gun comes out at just the right time.
MAybe the concept is, it's always concealed. The assailant never see's it coming. Assasin-like. Splitting the hairs of a moment to draw first and fast will end it before it starts. Or, draw secretly for a no contest shot. Any advise on a good handgun class and where? There are lots to chose from.
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Wow! A lot of great advise Cohoho. I think your comments put this in crystal clear focus for those considering carrying a concealed weapon. Thanks for sharing your remarks.
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I have a neighbor that used to teach close quarters shooting for defense. If he is willing to do another class this spring maybe there are enough people in the Spokane and Stevens County area to get him interested in doing a class again. :dunno:
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I carry a .45 glock 19. The reason why...
It is better to have a gun and never need one
than to need a gun and not have one.
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A .45 Glock 19 eh? I gotta get me one of those! ;)
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It is better to have a gun and never need one
Than to need a gun and not have one.
I justify a lot of things that way, but very true in this case. :rolleyes: I still wonder about parachutes on commercial jets.
Keep us posted Sisu. Thanks for the hook. Anyone ever pursue the PD or some agency for a class? Some of the ranges offer classes but not specifically defensive? I'd think a PD would be a good angle. Spokane aint far though, maybe from the Oly Penninsula but if we can bring a guy out of retirement it's worth meeting on his turf. My wife drives it in 3 hours and change. I try to sleep since diapers aren't that comfy and I don't like sitting in my own crap! :o
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Yup, Sig 229 w/3 12 rnd clips. Used to be a Para 14-45 til some cheese dick stole it :bash:
But I LOVE my sig, it eats everything I put through it. now using Gold Dot.
Damn don't go there. I am just losing my anger after having a Kimber stolen and now the anger is returning...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :bash: >:( :bash: >:(
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I've carried for years. An OLD Walther PP .380.
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I have a neighbor that used to teach close quarters shooting for defense. If he is willing to do another class this spring maybe there are enough people in the Spokane and Stevens County area to get him interested in doing a class again. :dunno:
I'd be interested, maybe my wife too. I have a permit and a springfield 1911 combat, but rarely carry it. So far, the only time I wished I had it with me was to dispatch injured animals on the road.
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Yes, everywhere i go. Glock 23 40 cal. Why? Too many nut jobs out there.
thats what i got right now...but dont carry it. im working on getting off my lazy arse and getting to the court house to get my cwp.
soon though really soon...just need the cash flow for it. which isnt much.
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yea thats my big point on concealed carry aswell. the gun should never be pulled out unless it is going to be used. plain and simple. i will never pull a gun on anyone unless it is needed. and said person will be feeling it the next day...IF THEY LIVE.
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S&W Sigma .40S&W 2 14round mags.
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A .45 Glock 19 eh? I gotta get me one of those! ;)
oops...i mean a glock 30...lol...my B..not sure where I got the 19 ;)
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I used to pack my Glock 23 til I traded it to Catwithboost for a Para 13. Its too big to conceal carry, but it is fun and intimidating to shoot. I have a Beretta .22 bobcat that lives in my truck. Id like to get a Glock 27 or a XD sub .40. The reason I pack? So the first time some crazy MF'r tries to rob me, hurt me or my family, break into my house, lethally threaten me I can protect myself and leave them faceless. Heartless sounding but not farther from the truth.
MS
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sure do, i carry a taurus 9 mm 18 rd clip
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I used to pack my Glock 23 til I traded it to Catwithboost for a Para 13. Its too big to conceal carry, but it is fun and intimidating to shoot. I have a Beretta .22 bobcat that lives in my truck. Id like to get a Glock 27 or a XD sub .40. The reason I pack? So the first time some crazy MF'r tries to rob me, hurt me or my family, break into my house, lethally threaten me I can protect myself and leave them faceless. Heartless sounding but not farther from the truth.
MS
thats my gun now...put some night sights on it. and a hogue slip on grip and its one a the nicest feeling guns to shoot now with that grip.
now i just need a concealed carry holster and my cpl at the end of the month...
i was in a situation the other night where it would have been nice to have my gun with me just incase i needed. thankfully the guys backed off.
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Did in SD, will again as soon as residency makes it legal... about 45 days and counting.
What depends on where... .357 S&W 60, .357 S&W 66 or .44 S&W 629 for the less civilized places.
God BLess,
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Carried a colt 45 double eagle w/ 2 eight rd mags for years. Decided I wanted something a little smaller a Taurus 650ss fit the bill.
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Hats off Mr muley sniper. Put all of them in thier mellon.Its great to be a free american