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Title: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 11, 2010, 09:24:01 AM
any 243 shooters have a nice load to blow up some yotes.  not worried about the hide so the more damage the better.  i just got a M70 with a 22" barrel and 1 in 10 twist.  looking for a nice round that will stabilize with this barrel configuration. 
thanks,
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: bobcat on January 11, 2010, 09:27:06 AM
I'd probably use Nosler Ballistic Tips if I wasn't worried about the hides.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 11, 2010, 09:28:55 AM
I have a friend that uses 55 gr bullet and varget. Major destruction.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: uplandhunter870 on January 11, 2010, 09:30:30 AM
i havent been able to start reloading yet, due to my financial state but ive shot a few with the 55gr. ballistic tiped winchester silver tips, turned them all into piles of goo.  hit one at 30 yards right in the shoulder and it blew a hole in it about the size of a basketball.  very effective even out to 300, hit one at apprx. 300 in the pocket dropped it where it stood, left the pelt ok for but not sellable.

Steve
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: high country on January 11, 2010, 09:53:44 AM
I have used most of the 55gr bullets and had similar results. I use sierra because they are cheap to buy and accurate in my rig.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 11, 2010, 09:59:40 AM
i bought a couple boxes of 55gr nosler ballistic tips and haven't shot them yet.  I am going to reload once i get some brass and figure out what bullet i want to shoot.  I just dont want to waste a bunch of money on powder i wont use.  and where the hell do you get primers at these days....holy crap.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Straight Shooter on January 11, 2010, 11:39:04 AM
Hornady 58 gr moly V-Max... can get them for less than $20.00 per box online.  I'm doing a bulk purchase next month.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 11, 2010, 09:12:21 PM
52.5 grains H414 is your honey w/55 NBT.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: lokidog on January 11, 2010, 09:19:14 PM
52.5 grains H414 is your honey w/55 NBT.

Any suggestions for 90 or 100 gr spbt with H414? 
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 11, 2010, 10:05:15 PM
52.5 grains H414 is your honey w/55 NBT.
sweet.  thanks.  i've been reading quite a bit of loads using that H414.  I went to cabelas to get it but of course they were out and they only ordered 1lb.  yippee.  sarcasticly - i love cabelas.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: lokidog on January 11, 2010, 10:22:48 PM
Hillbilly, Wholesale Sports has increased their inventory of reloading supplies.  That is where I got mine, although in Burlington.  Sportco in Fife also has powder and primers, though they were only selling 200 at a time.

Cabelas generally sucks for actually purchasing anything.  :(
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 11, 2010, 10:33:12 PM
thanks.  i'll check it out when i get some time.
I have had nothing but bad experiences at cabelas everytime i go there.   :violent1:
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: LittleJohn on January 12, 2010, 04:53:29 AM
my tikka .243 loves 52 gr of H380 with a 55 gr Nosler Balistic tip. Shoots 3950 fps and makes amess if u hit some bone. this yote was from 80 yards on sunday
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: callonetta on January 12, 2010, 05:21:45 AM
Wow!, awesome picture and great performance by Nosler bullets.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 12, 2010, 12:01:57 PM
Good deal.  i happened to purchase two boxes of 55gr nosler BT so hopefully i can get her to shoot well.
here is the new purchase.  Im pretty impressed with the redfield so far.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: LittleJohn on January 12, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
nice looking gun. Go get some blood on it :P :P
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on January 21, 2010, 01:58:51 PM
i got a chance to shoot the gun the other weekend and wasn't super impressed.  i was shooting federal vital shok 55gr NBT.  i only shot 4 times though.  two shots about 1" apart and 8" high so i dropped it down to 1.5" high and took two shots that were just under 1.25" apart.  Maybe I need a heavier bullet? :dunno:  or just shoot it some more. :tung:  eventually i'll try some handloads, but i bought these factories to get the brass and to shoot any critters that happen to stumble into the property.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: LittleJohn on January 21, 2010, 03:23:27 PM
I know allot of guys shoot them but I have never had good luck with Federals :twocents: :dunno: :)
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: firecrotch on January 21, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
thats the next gun i want to buy is a remington 700 SPS left hand in .243
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: C-Money on January 21, 2010, 04:32:08 PM
I just use what the rifle is sighted in for. Which is a deer load, 100gr Hornaday interlock. I use IMR 4350 with it. Seems to turn coyotes inside out just fine!
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: fishnate on January 21, 2010, 06:15:48 PM
my tikka .243 loves 52 gr of H380 with a 55 gr Nosler Balistic tip. Shoots 3950 fps and makes amess if u hit some bone. this yote was from 80 yards on sunday

I shoot a similar load 55gr Nos BT with 46gr H380. Just to be safe the hodgdon reloading site has 51 as max Load?

Cartridge:  243 Winchester
Load Type:  Rifle
 Starting Loads

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 Maximum Loads

Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s)Pressure Grs.    Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
55 GR.                NOS BT         HodgdonH380  .243" 2.650"46.0 3704    40,600CUP  51.0  4010  48,700 CUP 


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Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: LittleJohn on January 21, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
My Nosler book has max load at 53 gr :dunno: :dunno: I got the load info from a friend and my tikka loves it
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: fishnate on January 21, 2010, 06:34:47 PM
My Nosler book has max load at 53 gr :dunno: :dunno: I got the load info from a friend and my tikka loves it


Wierd? Just thought I would bring that up.  Other than that my model 70 loves it also tight tight groups Love It!
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: lokidog on January 21, 2010, 09:25:36 PM
I just use what the rifle is sighted in for. Which is a deer load, 100gr Hornaday interlock. I use IMR 4350 with it. Seems to turn coyotes inside out just fine!

How much 4350 do you use?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: C-Money on January 22, 2010, 09:50:18 AM
I will check when I get home. On shift now. I think it is 40.5gr IMR-4350, PLZ don't quote me on this. The older I get, the worse my memory gets! The load is not a max load, but it shoots well in both .243's we use. I have the load in my note book, and it's written on the box'es the shells are in. I will try to confirm saturday.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: C-Money on January 22, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
40.5gr IMR 4350 should put the 100gr interlock between 2800 and 2900 fps. It drops deer in their tracks as well as coyotes. PLZ do your own research before using any loads given on this site!
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: caseyv21 on January 22, 2010, 11:42:43 AM
hornady makes some 58 grain bullet that will easily kill a coyote out to 350 yards.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: lokidog on January 22, 2010, 06:53:31 PM
40.5gr IMR 4350 should put the 100gr interlock between 2800 and 2900 fps. It drops deer in their tracks as well as coyotes. PLZ do your own research before using any loads given on this site!

Thanks C, I'll check it with my books.  I bought some 414 for this gun but have the 4350 that I use for my -06.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: C-Money on January 24, 2010, 08:56:02 AM
Yes, memory was right. I use 40.5gr of imr-4350. Just smoked a coyote yesterday with that load.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: KimberRich on January 26, 2010, 02:14:54 PM
I have a friend that uses 55 gr bullet and varget. Major destruction.

Agreed..  I shoot these and they work great
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on January 26, 2010, 09:49:45 PM
Just bought a 243 an I'm going to load the 55gr noslers in front of h414 for predator/varmint duty. I'm looking at using the 105gr amax in front of retumbo for deer.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Jeremiah P on January 30, 2010, 08:41:12 PM
Just bought a 243 an I'm going to load the 55gr noslers in front of h414 for predator/varmint duty. I'm looking at using the 105gr amax in front of retumbo for deer.

Let me know what u find once you start working with that combo, I'm working on a load with that exact bullet but just haven't had enough time lately.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Jeremiah P on January 31, 2010, 11:41:10 AM
I shot a few of the A max 105's out of the .243 this morning and just can't seem to get a tight group. I'm using 7828 so hopefully a different powder will tighten it up, how many grains of retumbo were you thinking? I might load a few up and try it out.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Bigbuckhunter_1996 on January 31, 2010, 01:16:28 PM
i would say a 55 gr. NBT or the 55 gr. winchester ballistic silvertip
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on January 31, 2010, 02:49:21 PM
Well 46grs (2772fps) of retumbo is starting load and 49grs compressed (2986fps) is max  . I know I've read a lot on it and they say normaly the fuller the case is the accurate and uniform the pressure and vel will be so Ill let you know what I can do. I should get out this week and start on the 55gr noslers and the H414
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Big10gauge on January 31, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
The 55gr Noslers would be a good choice as they have a higher bc than a lot of the 60 to 70 gr bullets.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Jeremiah P on January 31, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
Well 46grs (2772fps) of retumbo is starting load and 49grs compressed (2986fps) is max  . I know I've read a lot on it and they say normaly the fuller the case is the accurate and uniform the pressure and vel will be so Ill let you know what I can do. I should get out this week and start on the 55gr noslers and the H414

I'll try that load next weekend and let you know how it works.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on January 31, 2010, 09:25:20 PM
It suprised me to see the 55gr 243 has a better bc then a 55gr .22
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: fishnate on February 01, 2010, 06:12:23 PM
It suprised me to see the 55gr 243 has a better bc then a 55gr .22

Ya higher than hornady vmax 58gr also. :rockin:
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Tikker on February 04, 2010, 12:35:29 PM
The 55gr Noslers would be a good choice as they have a higher bc than a lot of the 60 to 70 gr bullets.

    I bought a pack of the Speer 70gr TNT (b/c .282) bullets to try out in my Remington .243, still haven't gotten to loading them yet. I don't have first have knoledge of these bullets, but i have heard some impresive results from people that have used them. The heavier bullet might be better for your twist rate.

As to the higher b/c of the lighter bullet, i've searched the Noslers 55gr Varmint BT to be at .276 b/c and Noslers 70gr Varmint BT at .310 b/c. It has allways been to my understanding that usually the heavier bullets have the higher Ballistic Coefficient.

   
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Big10gauge on February 04, 2010, 01:44:15 PM
The 55gr Noslers would be a good choice as they have a higher bc than a lot of the 60 to 70 gr bullets.

    I bought a pack of the Speer 70gr TNT (b/c .282) bullets to try out in my Remington .243, still haven't gotten to loading them yet. I don't have first have knoledge of these bullets, but i have heard some impresive results from people that have used them. The heavier bullet might be better for your twist rate.

As to the higher b/c of the lighter bullet, i've searched the Noslers 55gr Varmint BT to be at .276 b/c and Noslers 70gr Varmint BT at .310 b/c. It has allways been to my understanding that usually the heavier bullets have the higher Ballistic Coefficient.

That's usually the case but if you look at Hornady Vmax 65 gr vs the Nosler 55 gr, the Nosler 55gr has a higher BC, also higher than the 60 gr Sierra, I didn't say the Nosler 55 gr had a higher BC than ALL the 60 to 70 gr bullets, just a lot of them.  :chuckle:

By the way welcome to the site!!!
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on February 04, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Well load some rounds now I just need a good day to go shooting
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Jeremiah P on February 04, 2010, 09:13:34 PM
Loading some 105's tomorrow, hopefully will shoot them saturday. I'll let you know if I find anything good.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: bobcat on February 04, 2010, 09:17:43 PM
That's usually the case but if you look at Hornady Vmax 65 gr vs the Nosler 55 gr, the Nosler 55gr has a higher BC, also higher than the 60 gr Sierra, I didn't say the Nosler 55 gr had a higher BC than ALL the 60 to 70 gr bullets, just a lot of them.  :chuckle:

Nosler SAYS it has a higher BC, but sometimes the bullet companies exagerate, or outright lie about their bullets' BC's.

I'm not saying it isn't what they say it is, but just that you can't always believe the numbers they provide.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on February 04, 2010, 10:02:20 PM
I think noslers close. The 65gr vmax is only a few thasands longer then the 55gr nosler.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on March 24, 2010, 09:30:06 AM
Well load some rounds now I just need a good day to go shooting

any update yet demontag.  i bought some h414 but haven't loaded anything yet.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on March 24, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
yeah out of my mossberg the 55gr nosler and h414 are shooting under a .5" I need to get some amaxs still.
Think it was around 43grs I posted a pic and the load on here I think its back a few pages in the treads.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on March 24, 2010, 03:28:55 PM
whats the load data ya got? :tung:
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: KillBilly on March 24, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
I love my .243 Tikka, it shots same hole and/or touching holes without fail. Not gonna post my load data as everybody else's is probably better than mine  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on March 24, 2010, 10:04:04 PM
Well 43grs of h414 is what the mossberg like but every gun is diff. Even with max load it was shooting well under 1 Moa so it could have just been the nut behind the trigger lol
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on June 01, 2010, 11:22:04 PM
Well haven't found any a-max bullets yet so my dad loaded up some 95gr nosler BT and 41grs of h414 and all I can say is one hole. Dad printed three shots in a ragged hole with my mossberg and three touching with his howa.
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: Hillbilly270 on June 02, 2010, 02:58:59 PM
good news..thanks for the update.  i actually think i purchased the h414. now i need to find some 95nosler BT!!  i have some 87gr. V-max..wonder if those would work.  think i could find the load data on hogdens website for this round?
Title: Re: 243 shooters
Post by: demontang on June 02, 2010, 09:38:56 PM
Should be on there. I'm going to order some a max next
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