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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: jackelope on January 14, 2010, 07:34:11 AM

Title: To the gunsmith I go
Post by: jackelope on January 14, 2010, 07:34:11 AM: Taking my encore to the smith tonight after work. I'm getting the Vias brake installed on my 300wm barrel and some trigger work done and then some little stuff. The barrel has a brake now but it looks like crap and looks very cheap. I guess I just don't like the look of it. The Vias brake gets great reviews and is said to be a little quieter than others.

It's the first time I've ever had any smith work done on any of my rifles and I'm looking forward to the end result. If it shoots better when i get it back, I'll be amazed. It shoots pretty dang good right now.
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Post by: Gutpile on January 14, 2010, 07:36:55 AM: Thats almost as good as getting a new toy. Let us know how she shoots.
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Post by: jackelope on January 14, 2010, 02:56:22 PM: Will do...and I'll post some completed pic's. I wish I took some before pics.
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Post by: elkaholic123 on January 14, 2010, 03:12:58 PM: Jackelope,I have a Vais brake on my Win. 300 wm and love it!It is alot quieter than the Weatherby brake on my old Accumark also less felt recoil is nice.You will like it! :twocents:
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Post by: jackelope on January 15, 2010, 08:54:32 AM: change of plans on the brake...gonna go with the Defensive Edge brake instead of the Vais. It's not ported on the bottom so it doesn't kick the dirt and stuff up like the others. They're both good brakes, but he talked me into the DE instead.
:dunno:
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Post by: Galpster on January 15, 2010, 08:58:59 AM: What gunsmith are you using?
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Post by: jackelope on January 15, 2010, 09:06:31 AM: the guy in sammamish.

I was gonna let you know how it went.
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Post by: elkaholic123 on January 15, 2010, 10:36:44 AM: Never heard of the defensive edge,do you have any pics of them?I am sure it will compare,what are the cost of them compared to Vais.Thanks
I really like my Vais and I don't notice dust or anything blowing when I shoot :dunno:
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Post by: jackelope on January 15, 2010, 10:50:31 AM: price will be about the same.
i'll find a pic on here, there's a couple guys that are running them.
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Post by: shoot-em-dead on January 15, 2010, 11:11:39 AM: Is it really worth it to put a muzzle break on? My 300wm kicks like a mule but I am just nervious it is tossing money out for something that will blow my eardrums.
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Post by: whacker1 on January 15, 2010, 11:16:34 AM: I can't speak to Defensive Edge, but the Vias didn't seem any louder with the break on or with it off, and had a 30-40% reduction in recoil on 300 RUM.
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Post by: bobcat on January 15, 2010, 11:17:50 AM: I think it all depends on whether you want to wear ear protection while hunting.
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Post by: shoot-em-dead on January 15, 2010, 11:28:38 AM: Quote from: bobcat on January 15, 2010, 11:17:50 AM
I think it all depends on whether you want to wear ear protection while hunting.

That is exactly what Iam talking about. It takes a while at the range every year just because I have to make sure I ride the gun just right or I wind up with a brused shoulder. It would be nice to have a better time on the range but when I shoot an elk i will be shooting untill he is down and I doubt I will have earplugs in.
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Post by: whacker1 on January 15, 2010, 11:31:25 AM: you can always site in with a break on the gun and ear protection and then put a solid sleeve over it for the hunting application. Most gunsmiths make sleeves, so that you don't have to wear the break during hunting applications. They screw on and off just like the break.
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Post by: jackelope on January 15, 2010, 11:33:49 AM: this is JoshT's sendero with a Defensive Edge brake on it. with a firewall at work that blocks firearms related sites, it's the only pic i can find.
i found that my gun is not very loud at all to the shooter(it has a brake on it now). no louder than my 30-06 without a brake. i have shot it with and without ear protection. i have also been standing next to it without ear protection on when my pard shot a coyote with it, and didn't notice anything obnoxious out of it. the recoil reduction makes it worth it to me. i might call myself recoil sensitive i guess.
i'm replacing the brake i have now for the simple reason that it is ugly and doesn't match my gun's finish and I have some christmas $$ to spend. iknow maybe not the best reason, but it is what it is.
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Post by: 257 Wby Mag on January 15, 2010, 10:36:04 PM: I think you made a good choice Jack. I had a Vias on my old 338 RUM years ago, was not impressed, with either the recoil reduction, or the ear splitting boom it produced. Make sure to post the results on your DE brake. Later
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Post by: elkaholic123 on January 16, 2010, 04:23:55 PM: Almost all of the benchrest guys go with the Vais brake,the recoil reduction on my
300 win was a drastic reduction and I don't think it is very loud at all,look at how they are designed,with holes coming out the front,lots of the sound and blast are going forward!Best design IMO.
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Post by: huntnphool on January 16, 2010, 04:38:20 PM: Quote
gonna go with the Defensive Edge brake instead

:tup:
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Post by: jjhunter on January 16, 2010, 05:40:48 PM: My 300 WM with a DE brake.......It is a great brake. Good choice, Jackelope. I am pushing 190 Bergers pretty hard and it kicks like a *censored* cat.
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Post by: huntnphool on January 16, 2010, 06:04:38 PM: you guys are killing me, I have a few I want to put them on but just never get around to it, now you got me going again.
Title: Re: To the gunsmith I go
Post by: jackelope on January 16, 2010, 08:37:27 PM: thanks guys. with the brake that was on the rifle it was a sweet shooter...i hope nothing changes. kicked a lot less than my 30-06's. i hope this one does the same.
i'll post pics up when i get her back.
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Post by: Galpster on January 19, 2010, 01:34:19 PM: Dropped off my odd 6 to Brian at Spot on Smithing today. I can not wait to get it back. He seems to know his stuff. Jackelop, make sure to post some pics and what you think of the shops work when it is all done as will I.
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Post by: jackelope on January 19, 2010, 02:17:28 PM: will do.
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Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2010, 08:17:48 PM: update:
the brake is in and the brake and barrel are headed to the lathe to be turned down to match the barrel. here's a couple pics before the turning...i'll post some other pics after it's done and polished.
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Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2010, 08:19:33 PM: pre-milling down and polish:
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Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2010, 08:20:44 PM: Tally 1 piecer installed..:
:)
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Post by: Jeremiah P on February 04, 2010, 09:10:43 PM: Defensive edge brakes are up at the top of the list in my book. Good call
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 05, 2010, 11:52:41 AM: What? No fluting?

-Steve
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Post by: jackelope on February 05, 2010, 11:56:59 AM: No fluting. Fluting brings me back to another post you made on this topic the last time we talked about this...regarding a pro hunter barrel is .260 or the like. I decided I would probably want a smaller caliber barrel at some point so when I do I will go with a Pro Hunter barrel that will already be fluted. That will be my move towards a lightweight barrel for this rig. The smith wasn't comfortable fluting this barrel because of pressure concerns, said it could be done but they'd have to send it out somewhere to be done and I didn't want to do all.
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 05, 2010, 12:01:47 PM: I understand. Well, if there's a day when you want that one fluted. There is a guy in Puyallup that does it.

Get a scope on that thing and go shoot!

-Steve
Title: Re: To the gunsmith I go
Post by: jackelope on February 05, 2010, 12:19:26 PM: Quote from: JackOfAllTrades on February 05, 2010, 12:01:47 PM
Get a scope on that thing and go shoot!

-Steve

I need to get it back from the smith 1st!! I'm taking him the scope today after work, he's gonna bore sight it for me when it's done with the machine work.
Thanks for the lead on the fluting.
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Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2010, 04:07:51 PM: Update!!!
I got everything completed and back together yesterday. The Encore frame with the trigger job right about 3.5 pounds, the 22-250 barrel on it, and the 300 win mag barrel back with the new Defensive Edge muzzle brake installed. Also had him order me a Tally 1 piece for the 300 barrel and install and boresight my scope since he had it. The work was done very clean and it looks real good. When I get some pics taken I will post them up.
Thanks for all the input.
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 17, 2010, 09:59:14 PM: Don't need no bloody pics of the damn gun! Need to see dinky little groups of holes in paper at some suppose'd range, and then the next week need to see how many Yotie's you shot!

-Steve
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Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2010, 10:37:51 PM: :chuckle:
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Post by: Galpster on February 18, 2010, 11:19:07 AM: That is good news. So when we going to the range. Will have to wait till I get mine back from him and we can shoot them both.
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Post by: jackelope on March 03, 2010, 07:21:49 AM: crappy cell phone pics...
I need a new camera...
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Post by: Galpster on March 25, 2010, 11:12:11 AM: I finally got my 30.06 back yesterday. Went to the range to test it out and it is touching each shot at 100 yards. Love it. Trigger down to about 3 1/2 pounds, new bedding, recrowned and a few other things. It is dead on. Love it and love SpotonSmithing. Great shop and a couple of really good guys (from the little time I have talked to them).

Need gunsmithing, go to SpotonSmithing. Great prices and great work!!
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Post by: let.it.fly on March 25, 2010, 11:14:43 AM: i want that gun jack. i will trade a 17 rem, and a model 700 in 30-06 for it. lol j/k great looking rig buddy
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Post by: jackelope on March 25, 2010, 11:15:47 AM: Quote from: let.it.fly on March 25, 2010, 11:14:43 AM
i want that gun jack. i will trade a 17 rem, and a model 700 in 30-06 for it. lol j/k great looking rig buddy

NO DEAL!!

;)
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Post by: let.it.fly on March 25, 2010, 11:48:19 AM: aww c'mon :chuckle:
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Post by: adam.WI on April 02, 2010, 02:09:24 PM: i have that same gun and have been thinking of getting some work done on it. If you ever want to get together and shoot let me know