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Title: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: LittleJohn on January 17, 2010, 05:41:32 PM: Going with a new bow this year and have narrowed it to the Mathews Z7 or the Bowtech 340 Destroyer. I am not sure witch one I am going with yet. Any thought???
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: Todd_ID on January 17, 2010, 06:26:11 PM: I had a post written up, but it occurred to me that you might not be the only person with an equipment question, I started a new thread with the offer I had for you. I can run your numbers on both bows and let you know how they will perform.

The other bit of advice I had for you was to shoot both of them because one will jump out at you, and that will give you confidence, and that will let you shoot your best.
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Post by: bullcanyon on January 17, 2010, 09:13:38 PM: I shot both side by side last week. The destroyer felt better to me. Less vibration on the shot and held noticeably steadier on target. It felt like I could hold the pin on the spot all day. Both were very nice bows. Would be happy to shoot either. Ii wouldn't stop at those two though. Tons of killer bows out this year.
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Post by: SpokaneSlayer on January 17, 2010, 09:17:42 PM: I shot the Z7 last weekend. I liked it so much that I have one on the way. I wanted to try the Destroyer and the Maxxis, but with my short draw length, I'm limited when it comes to the high end bows. I'm happy with my choice.
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Post by: grousetracker on January 18, 2010, 03:28:05 PM: john its not going to matter, you"ll call the elk in so close you could use a long bow if you wanted. i only shoot the matthews though. i do like the guardian to.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: LittleJohn on January 18, 2010, 04:22:14 PM: I have shot them both and like them both. I love the draw cycle of the Z7, smooth all the way with a nice valley. The destroyer is a little less nice to draw, but really feels nice in my hand. :dunno: :dunno:
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Post by: LittleJohn on January 18, 2010, 04:24:13 PM: Todd, are u willing to run my numbers through both bows for me??? That would be amazing. If not no biggy
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 18, 2010, 04:50:29 PM: the z7 i have shot both bows i would pick the z7 if it was me i don't care for bowtech i am a big pse buff you might shoot the axe from pse one of there new bows if you have not yet great bow.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: Todd_ID on January 18, 2010, 05:00:10 PM: Quote from: LittleJohn on January 18, 2010, 04:24:13 PM
Todd, are u willing to run my numbers through both bows for me??? That would be amazing. If not no biggy
No problem, just post the info on your setup that I have listed on the other thread, and I'll make it happen.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: blmathis12 on January 18, 2010, 08:13:24 PM: destroyer hands down!
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: bowhunterforever on January 18, 2010, 08:19:45 PM: Quote from: blmathis12 on January 18, 2010, 08:13:24 PM
destroyer hands down!
[/quote Why do you like the destroyer better then the z7, pro's and cons of each?
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Post by: septemberhunt on January 19, 2010, 08:43:44 AM: http://utopiaprogramming.com/ke/ke.php

here is a web page to help see what fps you will shoot. hope it will help.
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Post by: ridgefire on January 22, 2010, 07:18:02 PM: i just read on archery talk that people are having the roller gaurd break on their new destroyer the bowtech rep said it is from them torquing the bow too much might be something to look into if your planning on buying the bowtech
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: septemberhunt on February 06, 2010, 12:30:29 PM: I got a destroyer and love it :chuckle:
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Post by: huntnfmly on February 06, 2010, 12:35:21 PM: Z7 on the way for me very smooth very quite and no hand shock cant wait till it gets here :drool:
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Post by: bowhunterforever on February 06, 2010, 05:35:13 PM: How much is the Z7 costing you guys (Bare bow)?
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Post by: huntnfmly on February 06, 2010, 06:56:44 PM: $799 at rainier archery in grahm
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: BrandonWatts on February 06, 2010, 07:19:26 PM: well i bit the bullet today and walked out with a destroyer 340 at lucky shot archery in chehalis great shop.(http://)
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Post by: bullcanyon on February 07, 2010, 06:24:48 AM: Ted is a fun guy. You shoot the brush shoot while you were there? Man this week was a challenge. Very tight:)
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Post by: D-Rock425 on February 07, 2010, 10:12:41 AM: I shot both bows and for a speed bow the destroyer was very smooth. The Z7 is a great shooter as well cant go wrong with either one.
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Post by: Lowedog on February 07, 2010, 02:06:55 PM: Anybody know the weight of the Destroyer? Bowtech doesn't list it in their specs.
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Post by: BrandonWatts on February 08, 2010, 01:00:31 AM: Quote from: bullcanyon on February 07, 2010, 06:24:48 AM
Ted is a fun guy. You shoot the brush shoot while you were there? Man this week was a challenge. Very tight:)

yeah ted is an awesome guy. no i didnt shoot the brush shoot i will next weekend looked very challenging i didnt have my pins dialed in yet.

loewdog: not sure of the weight but i can tell you this all set up it is lighter then my old hoyt just bare bow.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: xXx Archery on February 08, 2010, 07:12:05 AM: Quote from: Lowedog on February 07, 2010, 02:06:55 PM
Anybody know the weight of the Destroyer? Bowtech doesn't list it in their specs.

3.9lbs
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 08, 2010, 07:56:17 AM: congrats on the new bow.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: bowtech721 on February 08, 2010, 06:42:54 PM: Ya i shot the 340 at lucky shot too and loved it... Its just kind of a big chunk of change for me but i really wanna get my hands on one :drool:
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Post by: BrandonWatts on February 08, 2010, 11:38:04 PM: the bow is fast fast fast. there chronograph was down but figured i was shooting over 300fps with my setup 30 inch draw 71.4 pounds with a 425grian arrow. ended up have to make some changes to my pins my old 20yd pin is now my 30yd my 30 is now my 40 and so on. man this thing is awsome
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Post by: septemberhunt on February 09, 2010, 10:11:40 AM: Quote from: BrandonWatts on February 08, 2010, 11:38:04 PM
the bow is fast fast fast. there chronograph was down but figured i was shooting over 300fps with my setup 30 inch draw 71.4 pounds with a 425grian arrow. ended up have to make some changes to my pins my old 20yd pin is now my 30yd my 30 is now my 40 and so on. man this thing is awsome

I have the 340 destroyer and at 73lbs 30in draw 423grain arrow it shot 315fps very fast
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Post by: Hornseeker on February 09, 2010, 11:46:26 AM: By the way, why did you rule out the Maxxis? :dunno:
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Post by: Lowedog on February 11, 2010, 08:53:04 AM: Got to shoot the Z7 and Monster 7 yesterday. The Monster was kind of harsh and had a good amount of vibration on the shot. The Z7 I really liked. Smooth draw, quiet and shock free.

I wish there was a Bowtech dealer around here. I really want to shoot the Destroyer.

Hey, why doesn't one of you guys that just bought the Destroyer send it to me for a few days? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: BrandonWatts on February 11, 2010, 11:17:18 PM: i shot the z7 too it was a great bow the only thing that got me was the destroyer had more speed not much more just enough to make me pick the destroyer.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 15, 2010, 08:24:50 AM: Which one has the least amount of hand torque? I wonder how many more animals will be lost due to individuals not see where there shot hits. I was shooting the Reezen and could never see the arrow in flight until it hit the target, but if your shoot at 40 yards and there is a haze to the air, you may never see where the arrow hits on your animal. They almost need to allow aluma nocks now with the speed bows, so individuals can see there shots.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: Lowedog on February 15, 2010, 01:00:46 PM: Quote from: h2ofowlr on February 15, 2010, 08:24:50 AM
Which one has the least amount of hand torque? I wonder how many more animals will be lost due to individuals not see where there shot hits. I was shooting the Reezen and could never see the arrow in flight until it hit the target, but if your shoot at 40 yards and there is a haze to the air, you may never see where the arrow hits on your animal. They almost need to allow aluma nocks now with the speed bows, so individuals can see there shots.

Are you shooting with both eyes open? I have no problem seeing my arrows in flight in the 290fps range.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 15, 2010, 06:27:51 PM: Quote from: Lowedog on February 15, 2010, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: h2ofowlr on February 15, 2010, 08:24:50 AM
Which one has the least amount of hand torque? I wonder how many more animals will be lost due to individuals not see where there shot hits. I was shooting the Reezen and could never see the arrow in flight until it hit the target, but if your shoot at 40 yards and there is a haze to the air, you may never see where the arrow hits on your animal. They almost need to allow aluma nocks now with the speed bows, so individuals can see there shots.

Are you shooting with both eyes open? I have no problem seeing my arrows in flight in the 290fps range.

I could see them also when I was in the 290 fps. Then I jumped into the 315 fps and lost sight of them.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: Lowedog on February 15, 2010, 06:40:28 PM: Something to think about. Better to utilize that power to shoot a heavier arrow I suppose.
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Post by: h2ofowlr on February 18, 2010, 07:31:57 PM: I shot the Z7 on Tuesday and I shot the Destroyer today. The Destroyer felt a lot better to shoot. The only bad thing the rep stated on the Destroyer is if you draw back and then have to slowly realease the bow back to the non-drawn position some guys are jumping the string off the flat portion of the cam as they end up twisting it as they go back to the non-drawn position. Just something to think about. A very nice bow though. It shot really well.
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Post by: colockumelk on May 24, 2010, 08:16:51 PM: Bump so I can find that program easier. :)
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: h2ofowlr on May 25, 2010, 07:54:18 AM: I went and shot the Z7 again then the Destroyer 340 & 350 to be certain. I went with the Destroyer 350. They could upgrade the handle, but other than that it's a great bow.
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Post by: mtbiker on May 25, 2010, 10:19:42 AM: Quote from: h2ofowlr on May 25, 2010, 07:54:18 AM
I went and shot the Z7 again then the Destroyer 340 & 350 to be certain. I went with the Destroyer 350. They could upgrade the handle, but other than that it's a great bow.

I wasn't totally thrilled with the stock grip on my 350, so I replaced it with a Torqueless Grip (www.torqueless.com (http://www.torqueless.com)). Made a huge difference.
Title: Re: Z7 or DESTROYER ???
Post by: Lowedog on May 25, 2010, 03:54:19 PM: Quote from: mtbiker on May 25, 2010, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: h2ofowlr on May 25, 2010, 07:54:18 AM
I went and shot the Z7 again then the Destroyer 340 & 350 to be certain. I went with the Destroyer 350. They could upgrade the handle, but other than that it's a great bow.

I wasn't totally thrilled with the stock grip on my 350, so I replaced it with a Torqueless Grip (www.torqueless.com (http://www.torqueless.com)). Made a huge difference.

I'd like to see a pic of that grip on the bow. Can you post one?
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Post by: mtbiker on May 25, 2010, 04:49:57 PM: I'll take some pics and get them posted soon, but in the meantime here's the same, exact grip (from the torquless.com website):

http://www.torqueless.com/images/Grip%20Colors/DymaLux/DSCF1278.JPG (http://www.torqueless.com/images/Grip%20Colors/DymaLux/DSCF1278.JPG)
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on May 25, 2010, 05:54:00 PM: I will always support Bowtech, they support the soldiers I support them

http://www.freedomalliance.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=2&Itemid=24 (http://www.freedomalliance.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=2&Itemid=24)
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Post by: colockumelk on May 27, 2010, 05:35:01 PM: I agree Blkbr. Plus if your deployed you can get a fully set up top of the line bow for $500 bucks. I believe Fire4effect from here took advantage of that deal when he was looking for a bow.
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Post by: mtbiker on July 13, 2010, 07:55:52 PM: Sometime ago on this thread I said I would post a pic of the Torqueless grip on my Destroyer. I finally got around to doing it. BTW, any Destroyer 340/350 owners out there, I have the same grip, but in in a medium wrist style for sale. I switched to a low wrist style a month or so ago. Also, fyi a good read on gripping a bow and wrist styles see http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practical_bowhunter/grip/index.htm (http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practical_bowhunter/grip/index.htm) .
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Post by: Lowedog on July 13, 2010, 08:11:46 PM: Looks nice. Sent you a PM. How are you liking the Destroyer? I love mine!
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Post by: mtbiker on July 13, 2010, 08:24:51 PM: Very, very happy with my 350. No regrets what-so-ever!
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Post by: coachcw on July 14, 2010, 06:56:03 AM: good looking grip , I'm gonna check themout.
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Post by: mtbiker on July 14, 2010, 07:44:02 AM: Yeah, they're definitely worth checking out. I also had one on my Mission Eliminator and it made a big difference.

BTW, the grip I mentioned has been sold.