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Title: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: jager on January 18, 2010, 06:02:54 AM
Cascade wolf sightings increase

Jeff Barnard Associated Press

GRANTS PASS, Ore. – Wolves that have moved into Oregon from Idaho appear to be extending their range west, with recent sightings in the southern Cascades and the Ochoco Mountains.

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologist John Stephenson said the reports of sightings and tracks have been growing since last January, when a photo was taken of an animal that looked like a wolf along U.S. Highway 20 east of Sisters.

In December, tracks were spotted in the southern Ochoco Mountains and near Wickiup Reservoir in the Cascades, Stephenson said.

Stephenson said it was not confirmed these are wolves, but he said he followed the tracks through the snow and they tend to go in straight lines the way wolves travel, not meandering the way dogs run.

“At this point, we are not sure whether we actually have wolves occupying the Cascades or single dispersing animals wandering through,” he said.

Wolves were hunted out of existence in Oregon in the early 20th century but have moved back into the state from Idaho, where packs were re-established in the 1990s. The last Oregon wolf was killed in 1946 on the west side of the Cascade Range in the Umpqua National Forest.

They are federally protected as an endangered species in the western two-thirds of the state and listed as a state endangered species. The state wolf management plan calls for establishing four breeding pairs east of U.S. Highway 97 and four breeding pairs west of the highway.

Russ Morgan, wolf coordinator for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, said they had expected wolves to fill up the habitat in Eastern Oregon before moving into the Cascades, so their appearance is a surprise. Two known packs are established in northeastern Oregon, and 15 to 20 are thought to be in the state.

“One thing that is absolutely sure about wolves throughout the efforts to recover them is that they always surprise us,” said Steve Pedery, conservation director for Oregon Wild, a conservation group.

“They don’t need a lot from humans other than habitat and not shooting them. Even with these sightings and the documented packs we’ve got in Eastern Oregon, we still have a very long way to go before wolves are recovered.”

Cottage Grove rancher Bill Hoyt, the new president of the Oregon Cattlemen’s Association, said he had no immediate fear wolves could start attacking livestock in Western Oregon but expected that would become inevitable as wolf numbers increase.

Government hunters recently killed two wolves that were attacking livestock in Baker County.

Duane Dungannon, state coordinator for the Oregon Hunters Association, said they were not looking forward to increasing numbers of wolves, but that the sooner wolf numbers hit repopulation goals, the sooner wildlife authorities could start controlling them.

Spencer Lennard of Big Wild, a conservation group, said several studies have found that when wolves move into an area, deer and elk become more wary and are less likely to overgraze willows and trees along streams, helping to preserve fish habitat.
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Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: Little Dave on January 18, 2010, 09:12:36 AM
In the same line of thinking...

Fish are thriving now in the Arabian Sea.  It is thought that this is because of the Somali pirates operating in that area keeping back Japanese commercial fishing vessels among others.  Using this line of thinking about the wolves, maybe extend Somali piracy off American shores to help increase our fish populations.
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 18, 2010, 10:12:23 AM
In the same line of thinking...

Fish are thriving now in the Arabian Sea.  It is thought that this is because of the Somali pirates operating in that area keeping back Japanese commercial fishing vessels among others.  Using this line of thinking about the wolves, maybe extend Somali piracy off American shores to help increase our fish populations.

 :chuckle:

Whooda thunk that Pirates and Environmentalists have so much in common.

Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: Shootmoore on January 18, 2010, 10:14:52 AM
In the same line of thinking...

Fish are thriving now in the Arabian Sea.  It is thought that this is because of the Somali pirates operating in that area keeping back Japanese commercial fishing vessels among others.  Using this line of thinking about the wolves, maybe extend Somali piracy off American shores to help increase our fish populations.

 :chuckle:

Whooda thunk that Pirates and Environmentalists have so much in common.



Have you seen Whale Wars?  I'm thinking we should redeploy our seals who rescued that captain to the North Pacific, they could always run re-runs afterwords.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: mountainman1 on January 19, 2010, 11:04:12 AM
 :yike:Well that's good reasoning. Wolves are good for the fish :yike: What about the rest of the wildlife. If they need something to chase the wildlife back away from the streams, let the hunters do that. :chuckle: So if the animals don't drink from the creeks and rivers that leaves the fish and river wolves more water to play in :dunno:
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: yelp on January 19, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
We need a pic of a wolf eating a bulltrout..
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: PolarBear on January 19, 2010, 11:33:11 AM
Wolves make great crab bait and feed, does that count?
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: wolfbait on January 19, 2010, 08:48:37 PM
Wolves make great crab bait and feed, does that count?

Damn right it counts, you can even acquire many points from several of us here on W-H, but we will need pictures of course. Or at least a GPS collar and maybe a tail.
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 19, 2010, 08:50:30 PM
We need a pic of a wolf eating a bulltrout..

x2 and maybe a spotted owl :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: mountainman1 on January 20, 2010, 10:49:31 PM
Sounds like Eastern Oregon is at their quota of wolf packs east of 97. They will be able to delist them this spring and a wolf hunt to keep them down to 2 packs in Eastern Oregon. Well I guess that would be to simple for the feds to figure out :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wolves are good for fish!
Post by: Deep Forks on January 20, 2010, 11:08:43 PM
We need a pic of a wolf eating a bulltrout..
   :yeah:  That would make a great shirt :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:
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