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Title: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 24, 2008, 10:44:34 AM
 Well I went to the Sportsmans show yesterday and took in the big Elk sheds to see just how close we were on our scoring. Well lets say there's a reason we are not official scorers  :chuckle: originally I thought Bone nailed it based on our score at 349 1/8 but the official guys put it at 358 1/8 with a 40" spread but based on what people are saying a big bull like that would have a spread closer to 45 or 48" which looks more natural when I lay it out. So we could be lookin at a bull closer to 366 on the hoof! not bad for small thirds either.
Sorry Bone it looks like the official crown goes to Buckshotbill Oh ya and since they score them for you they are now entered in the Big game book it will be interesting to see where they rank ... I'm sure there allot bigger ones in there.

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Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: Ironhead on January 24, 2008, 11:26:31 AM
So what did the official score guy do differently than you to come up with another 20" of bone. Very nice sheds by the way.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 24, 2008, 07:12:36 PM
When I compared the sheets we screwed up on the main beams. On mains we must have let the wire slip cause they had them 3 & 4+ inches longer than we did. And it looks like we were shorting the point where they intersect the main beam on some of the points we started too high. And I don't have enough experience with these to tell you if their new scoring system had anything to do with it either. But they are advertising that they have a new way that is more accurate and even if you Had a head in previous year contests you are welcome to bring them back in to have them rescored. well I guess it's better than saying they are bigger and then finding out that you have to tell everybody they are smaller than you measrued. the pics on this are deceiving you would have to see it in person it is one of those that I can actually say is larger in real life. As far as what it would have really scored we won't know it's all speculation and they only give you 40" on the spread.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 24, 2008, 07:50:35 PM
Sorry I just looked again at the sheets I typo'd the result on the post, sorry must have been dyslexic when I was typing it was more like a 10" difference not 20 I was trying to figure out where you were coming from Ironhead then I realized it was me  :DOH: sorry for that at any rate we were wrong on our measurements.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2008, 07:54:26 PM
so am i still the winner?
if so i'd like to thank boneaddict for teaching me everything i mysteriously look like  i know somehow.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 24, 2008, 08:04:35 PM
Sorry Jakelope it looks as if I was in a hurry and transposed the numbers but put it this way you were just about as close as bone but buckshotbill guessed 357 so he takes it! Sorry again I was trying to do a couple of things at once including work earlier and you know us guys aren't made to multitask we just don't have the hips for it!  ;) At least I caught it with Ironheads help.

I modified the original post up top!
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2008, 09:13:05 PM
*censored*, just when i thought i finally nailed one of these dang guess the score contests, back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: Cougeyes on January 24, 2008, 10:49:12 PM
I wasn't that far off after all. I said 363 originally.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 24, 2008, 11:55:45 PM
Ya cougeyes had it been on the skull you might have been right on!
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 25, 2008, 05:50:43 AM
Yea I was going to guess in the 358 359 region!!
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: boneaddict on January 25, 2008, 06:39:42 AM
I'd still like to hear about this new way of measureing things to make them bigger.  Was this official for the book or just the Puyallupboys having fun?  I was about to load up and head over with the NM bull if it could make my score 20 inches bigger.  No offense Lance. :) 
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: Ironhead on January 25, 2008, 08:16:27 AM
Reguardless, that is a sweet set of sheds. Have you thought about maybe a euro with one of the fake skulls?
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 25, 2008, 08:39:32 AM
Ironhead,
I have thought about that, I also have the cape from the bull I shot this year and I thought of putting that on it and putting my bull on a plaque. I have a friend (the elk E side raffle winner) that has a cape from his Colorado bull he said I could have if I wanted to mount both of them!
So I have some options but in the very least I will put these sheds on a Euro and display them, they are currently in the garage on a pile of boxes and deserve better!
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: boneaddict on January 25, 2008, 08:42:56 AM
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in the garage on a pile of boxes and deserve better!

Thats where half my mounts are compliments of my growly wife.  I'm about to inform her that I would rather cuddle with a large elk shed than her.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 25, 2008, 09:31:37 AM
Bone, The Head and horns competition folks are from the NW big game records book and are a separate independent records keeping organization. They keep game records for Washington. Oregon Idaho & Montana. They advertise however that most of their measurer's are Official Boone & Crockett or Pope & Young certified measurer's and work closely with both clubs. Having said that your entry gets published in each States book for big game animals and it sounds like you would still have to have it scored for the perspective club you want it entered in. When you have a entry that qualifies they give you a sheet that explains this and that's the way it sounds to me.
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 25, 2008, 09:33:43 AM
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I would rather cuddle with a large elk shed than her.

I know there are some nights that that would be more fun!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: boneaddict on January 25, 2008, 09:40:23 AM
COOL!  I am very aware of them.  I've entered some stuff, ususally by a Pope measurer.  They have several official measurers in this area.  Usually the way the Yakima show works is a bunch of guys, sometimes including me, measure alot of heads and antlers for folks, but it doesn't count for anything.  If something is big enough for either Boone, Pope, or the state, they try to have it done by an official measurer.  Thats awesome that they did so well.   I am glad that my score was small and that they did better.


At least the antlers don't growl and make you feel miserable.  Nothing but happiness when holding one of them bad dawgs. 
Title: Re: Big Elk Sheds Revised
Post by: M_ray on January 25, 2008, 09:50:02 AM
 
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At least the antlers don't growl and make you feel miserable.  Nothing but happiness when holding one of them bad dawgs.


 :tup: I'm with you there! :tup:

The last couple of years of finding sheds while hunting has really given me the fever and I think this year I want to acually go out in the spring and look, which is something that I have never done, so look out there's gonna be one more wetsider to contend with this spring. Sorry I can't help it these sheds have gotten to me!
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