Post by: Dipsnort on February 01, 2010, 01:22:04 PM
Post by: bucklucky on February 01, 2010, 01:48:24 PM
Ive only heard rumors, so I cant help ya on that one.
Post by: bow4elk on February 01, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on February 01, 2010, 02:00:36 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 01, 2010, 02:08:15 PM
Might not be your style, but the man knows how to find BIG Blackies. Legally. Usaually the areas he hunts for monsters are bow only because of proximity.
Post by: Dipsnort on February 01, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
He also made a very interesting comment--that he has been accused of poaching, hunting at night and hunting without permission. I'm trying to reconcile why a person would make such a comment and why he (apparently) has been accused in what sounded to me like several instances. Like I said, I'm generally suspicious. :dunno:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 01, 2010, 03:16:06 PM
There are allot of very populated places in Kitsap that are open to harvest with a bow. And many have no idea how to go about finding those places.
Post by: Dipsnort on February 02, 2010, 08:15:18 AM
Post by: Dmanmastertracker on February 02, 2010, 08:50:29 AM
Most homeowners who have no knowledge of hunting laws and such and maybe have seen frequently or even have everyday BIG bucks coming into there yards feel violated when along comes a guy in the know and whacks one with the kids swing set in the background. He will generally take em on a greenbelt or easement during there travels. He may even offer a gratituity to hunt your private lot.I don't know the guy, but I do know most easement's and greenbelt's are closed to hunting. In very, very rare situations, a private Company may own an easement such as Bonneville, but the majority of easement's, ROW's and greenbelt's are owned by the County, or City of jurisdiction and are closed to hunting :bdid:.
There are allot of very populated places in Kitsap that are open to harvest with a bow. And many have no idea how to go about finding those places.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 02, 2010, 08:52:11 AM
He definately isnt for everyone, but I dont believe he is a poacher as the definition decribes. He's kind of like the Jim Teeney of hunting...Jim would throw rocks to get Steelies to change there lye.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 02, 2010, 08:56:36 AM
I don't know the guy, but I do know most easement's and greenbelt's are closed to hunting. In very, very rare situations, a private Company may own an easement such as Bonneville, but the majority of easement's, ROW's and greenbelt's are owned by the County, or City of jurisdiction and are closed to hunting :bdid:.
Your probably right, and I used the terms way too loosely and shouldent speak for him, I cant say the he actually uses greenbelts and easements, because I dont know, just that he dosent have any issues with our 2 local area wardens...and he dosent have a bad rep with the community.
Post by: bobcat on February 02, 2010, 09:01:15 AM
Post by: Dipsnort on February 02, 2010, 09:48:28 AM
I hear ya there. If your throwing rocks on a maintained piece of property like a lawn or garden or such Id be pissed too. But if you have 20 acreas of dense forest and couldent notice a rock out of place no matter, then I guess its fair game. All a homeowner could do is ask him to stop throwing them. If it was in your yard you could ask he comes pick it all up. Most wouldent even know he is there....It it were my piece of land it wouldn't matter whether the rocks land on my manicured lawn or in the "back 40". I would still be PO'ed. As an outside observer to this particular story he told I think it's beyond obtrusive. The Jim Teeney story is not the same because the streams are public property. If Boyd wants to throw rocks on public property to scare a deer his way I don't see a problem with it.
He definately isnt for everyone, but I dont believe he is a poacher as the definition decribes. He's kind of like the Jim Teeney of hunting...Jim would throw rocks to get Steelies to change there lye.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 02, 2010, 10:29:48 AM
Exactly why I said "KIND OF" like the Jim Teeny.
Id just ask him for a steak. Lol PO' d or not, what are ya gonna do about it? Yell and scream? Big deal...break the law and you'll be sitting in jail and he will still have his Deer. Sure he could run into a whacko someday and get shot. But unless your that whacko, what exactly would you do Dipnort?
I wouldent like it any more than you. But you wouldent even know he was there chances are. And your right, He probably shouldent talk about that in a place were so many have different ideas and or concerns over these ways of getting deer. I wouldent be telling audiences that.
Post by: Kowsrule30 on February 02, 2010, 10:39:09 AM
I live in Kitsap County... There are a lot of areas most hunters would never even think of hunting.... I found a nice little honey hole when I was 16.... I used my shot gun even though it wasn't a firearm restriction area.... Houses were not very close by... I nailed a nice 3 point one morning and it ran on private/posted land... (actually ran over 400 yds) After knocking on the door explaining myself and dragging a deer across their yard in front of their children.... (back to the woods, he wouldn't let me drive around and load it up) Hell, I even offered to hose down all the blood... :dunno: There was no hunting signs all over the next season... A least I got one before the inevitable happened....
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 02, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on February 02, 2010, 08:05:38 PM
Theres some nice Deer up around Long Lake were I live Kow. Heck my buddy hunts on Horstman rd. near mile hill.
I'm assuming those area's are bow only??? I know exactly where you are talking about... Never looked into those spots... Looked into one off Bay St.... The city said NO TOO HIGH PROFILE!!!! :dunno:
Post by: washelkhntr on February 02, 2010, 08:10:41 PM
Post by: gasman on February 02, 2010, 08:14:45 PM
Don't know if I am right on this, but I could swear that someone on here posted about his hunting expierence with him last year or the year before and how it was one of the biggest jokes ever.
:yeah:
Post by: MuleySniper on February 02, 2010, 08:19:28 PM
Theres some nice Deer up around Long Lake were I live Kow. Heck my buddy hunts on Horstman rd. near mile hill.
Weird. My grandparents lived on Baby Doll and my uncle lives on Horstman. Most people in that area barely have an acre. When you say hunting, do you mean with his pickup? :chuckle:
Post by: clhutner on February 02, 2010, 08:24:45 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 02, 2010, 08:30:40 PM
Post by: gasman on February 02, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
I did sit through one of his seminars once and he was big on tree stands along river banks and trails in out of river beds and along fence line areas.
Post by: Dr. Death on February 03, 2010, 06:49:16 AM
:yeah: :bdid:
Yep, be careful....might find yourself in a very uncomfortable situation....i.e tresspassing, sneaking around on private property, ducking cars and homeowners etc...He's well known around the area for lot's of reasons.
Post by: croix on February 03, 2010, 07:32:32 AM
Don't know if I am right on this, but I could swear that someone on here posted about his hunting expierence with him last year or the year before and how it was one of the biggest jokes ever.
I remember that as well. Someone had booked a coyote hunt I think and the guide showed up late, didn't have the right calls, drove around in the truck most of the time (made like 2 sets) and had to leave early. The person who booked him didn't pay the full price because he felt so ripped off.
I saw the seminar as well and didn't see that he had anything more recent than 2005. His website looks similar. Maybe he's just not the best spokesperson? He does seem to get it done though. I did learn a couple things listening to him and I enjoyed the video of the deer foaming at the mouth :chuckle:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 03, 2010, 08:19:59 AM
Theres some nice Deer up around Long Lake were I live Kow. Heck my buddy hunts on Horstman rd. near mile hill.
Weird. My grandparents lived on Baby Doll and my uncle lives on Horstman. Most people in that area barely have an acre. When you say hunting, do you mean with his pickup? :chuckle:
There are Deer all over the neighborhood. If you can catch them in the areas behind the cemetarty on Retsil all the way down to the treatment plant. If he catches one, which is easy, in his yard, Its down. There is a new development going in on the lower part of Horstman also.
Also some area on the East side of the cemetary. We checked it out this year with the county as well the Sheriffs office. And anything East of 16 is bow only.
Personally, I dont hunt there or that way. But he is very tight on money so he makes due. He's pretty good at researching county and city stuff to find out whats legal. I personally think its kinda on edge, Lol
Post by: Kowsrule30 on February 03, 2010, 11:12:06 AM
Theres some nice Deer up around Long Lake were I live Kow. Heck my buddy hunts on Horstman rd. near mile hill.
Weird. My grandparents lived on Baby Doll and my uncle lives on Horstman. Most people in that area barely have an acre. When you say hunting, do you mean with his pickup? :chuckle:
There are Deer all over the neighborhood. If you can catch them in the areas behind the cemetarty on Retsil all the way down to the treatment plant. If he catches one, which is easy, in his yard, Its down. There is a new development going in on the lower part of Horstman also.
Also some area on the East side of the cemetary. We checked it out this year with the county as well the Sheriffs office. And anything East of 16 is bow only.
Personally, I dont hunt there or that way. But he is very tight on money so he makes due. He's pretty good at researching county and city stuff to find out whats legal. I personally think its kinda on edge, Lol
I use to go off Old Clifton a lot... And Lake Flora... Then all the brush pickers took over... :'(
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 03, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
Whole place is developed pretty much now.. :'(
Post by: MuleySniper on February 03, 2010, 12:39:07 PM
MS
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 03, 2010, 01:51:34 PM
Small world.
Post by: bullchaser on February 04, 2010, 12:20:27 PM
Post by: Deep Forks on February 04, 2010, 02:17:33 PM
Post by: 7mag. on February 06, 2010, 11:27:01 PM
Post by: bonecrusher on February 07, 2010, 02:40:01 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on February 08, 2010, 01:33:35 PM
did a coyote hunt with him and we ended up not even really hunting
he charged 200 dollars a day and said he garenteed 1 if not 2 coyotes
it was supose to be a baited hunt until the night before he called us up and said plans had changed we would be calling them with electric calls
about twelve o clock midnight the night before he called saying he couldn't get the calls so he would use a mouth reed
we mended up not getting to a spot to even call "which was only a 1/4 mile from the main highway, and you could still see the truck" until about 9 o clock
hunted 15 minutes if that in two spots right on top of the other, which might as well be the same spot and then went back to his place empty handed
as for deer hunting he told us about some of his ways and how they have shot at deer standing on a main highway, and sneaking on to private land without permission making his clients think they have the right to hunt the land
as for bears he still baits at times and his brochure says guarenteed hunt for 2000$, he says that is just a way to get more money by catching peoples eye "guarenteed"
i did pay half price, but shouldn't have gave him anything
he is the biggest load of crap i have ever heard of and he is a discrace to hunting
Post by: duckmen1 on February 08, 2010, 02:13:23 PM
your right i have never hunted with him because if you consider what he did to me hunting you are just as bad as he is
take a look at the last comment
that is a short and nice way of putting how he treated me
he is the biggest piece of crap i have ever met "HUNTING"
whoever calls him a hunter is probably the same way themselves
you talk about critique on people but your doing the same to a big group of people rather than just one person
why don't you book a "HUNT" with him and maybe you"ll quit protecting him
Post by: bullchaser on February 08, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Post by: 7mag. on February 08, 2010, 02:58:36 PM
I am not bashing you guys who have had bad experiances with the guy i was not impressed with him at the show either. my point was lets not be so quick to judge. Hey Duckman Now your accusing me let it go, besides who the heck needs a guide for coyotes.
I could use a guide for yotes, I suck. A free guide, that is.
Post by: Houndhunter on February 08, 2010, 03:53:32 PM
I am not bashing you guys who have had bad experiances with the guy i was not impressed with him at the show either. my point was lets not be so quick to judge. Hey Duckman Now your accusing me let it go, besides who the heck needs a guide for coyotes.
I could use a guide for yotes, I suck. A free guide, that is.
no kidding those are tough lil basterds to get in on the west side, ea isnt even huntin :chuckle:
Post by: Jerome on February 08, 2010, 04:42:50 PM
Post by: 7mag. on February 08, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Post by: Thehowler on February 09, 2010, 05:02:13 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on February 11, 2010, 02:15:48 PM
have gotten a few honey holes and techniques to hunt them hear on the westside
but when your young sometimes you would like to pull a trigger once in a year
did'nt you when you were young?
Post by: bullchaser on February 11, 2010, 07:06:45 PM
-Matt
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on February 11, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
Post by: cr250rider on March 04, 2010, 05:20:20 PM