Post by: MichaelJ on February 08, 2010, 03:06:39 PM
Michael
Post by: uplandhunter870 on February 08, 2010, 03:30:17 PM
if youre looking to get real small coverage at any yardage i think replacing the fibers with a smaller diameter fiber would be best and cheapest if that possible with you current gear
Post by: Crunchy on February 08, 2010, 03:43:28 PM
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Post by: bonkellekter on February 08, 2010, 08:05:55 PM
Post by: MAVsled on February 08, 2010, 08:07:25 PM
Axcel Armortech HD, 5 pin custom. top 3 pins .019, bottom 2 pins .010.
I loved the adjustability of the pins, better than my Black Gold Solaris HD 4 pin (now back up sight).
The smaller bottom pins made quite a sight picture difference at 50 & 60 yards. Shot better and helped my confidence at those longer distances. Shot 3 sets of 4 arrows each and grouped tightly within a 9" square drawn around the center of the Block target dot.
Post by: bonkellekter on February 08, 2010, 08:08:52 PM
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and the more expensive version
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Post by: bonkellekter on February 08, 2010, 08:36:58 PM
Dead Nuts tough v-2-Cable.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huJGTWEieKg#)
Here is their new Mark III sight
http://www.copperjohn.com/index.php/home/products/13 (http://www.copperjohn.com/index.php/home/products/13)
Post by: cascademountainhunter on February 08, 2010, 08:43:20 PM
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Post by: konrad on February 08, 2010, 09:36:42 PM
I'm never going back to anything else.
There is no such thing as a "Good, Cheap sight".
Post by: MichaelJ on February 08, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what are you referring to when you say the "micro adjust"? I have an older toxonics sight on my bow and its served its purpose, but I'd really enjoy something a bit better...
What about older Spot Hoggs? I know I can find some on Archery Talk for a decent deal...
Michael
Post by: Lowedog on February 08, 2010, 11:02:50 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on February 08, 2010, 11:30:05 PM
i will never buy a sight without the micro adjust now so much simpler and i never had the problem of adjusting it too far and having to start all over in the opposite direction or try and squeeze out the 1/16th of an inch with my bear claws for fingers.
Post by: MichaelJ on February 08, 2010, 11:34:55 PM
Konrad, where are you finding .010 pins for the Hogg it? I only see them advertised with .019 pins...
Michael
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 08, 2010, 11:38:38 PM
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Post by: bowhunterforever on February 09, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
Post by: PolarBear on February 09, 2010, 12:39:42 AM
Post by: konrad on February 09, 2010, 03:47:36 PM
http://twomorrowssupply.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SH-HI&Category_Code=Spot-Hogg (http://twomorrowssupply.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SH-HI&Category_Code=Spot-Hogg)
Bill Morrow is a straight shooter and at the time (last year) he had the best prices hands down. Mine was special ordered from the factory and shipped direct to my house.
I played with the old brass pins and two other new sights including the Apex Gear Nitros (.019 pins). The combination of being able to make an adjustment and then return the pin and/or housing to its original position, the fine aiming points and excellent levelling adjustments have moved my maximum practice from 40 yards to 60 and reduced the amount of hair I was pulling from my head. I would practice at a further range but ran out of pins (only shooting 240 fps).
Struggle with your old sight and focus on grip position, hand/release position, sight picture, release control and follow through until you can afford a Hogg...any Hogg.
Nothing but straight dope here.
Post by: MichaelJ on February 09, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
I would ideally like to pick up a Hogg used... $240+ (if I go with .010 pins and a wrap) is a lot of money for a sight. However I compare it to a rifle scope or a pair of binos, buy quality the first time and forget about worrying... We'll see if I pull the trigger or not. Thanks again you guys are great
Michael
Post by: huntnphool on February 09, 2010, 06:12:07 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on February 09, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on February 09, 2010, 06:21:39 PM
Also got a chance to read 15+ reviews of the Real Deal and Right On Spot Hogg sights... and even though they're a little cheaper, they are getting just as good reviews as the Hogg It.
Real Deal with seven deadly pins in .010 and wrap to my door: $189.37
Right on with above combination: $167.54
Phool, just took a look at your Trophy Ridge inlines, look like very nice sight except I would really enjoy something with the .010 pins...
Michael
Post by: PolarBear on February 09, 2010, 06:26:44 PM
Post by: konrad on February 09, 2010, 06:29:45 PM
Older "fiber optic sights" only had a short piece of fiber mounted inside the pin and did not gather as much ambient light.
I forgot to mention, if you have any questions you can e-mail or phone Bill. He'll get right back to you.
Post by: huntnphool on February 09, 2010, 06:34:19 PM
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Phool, just took a look at your Trophy Ridge inlines, look like very nice sight except I would really enjoy something with the .010 pins...
They make it with both sizes.
Post by: MichaelJ on February 09, 2010, 06:34:47 PM
Michael
Post by: Lowedog on February 09, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
Post by: Crunchy on February 09, 2010, 07:56:59 PM
Post by: bonkellekter on February 09, 2010, 08:04:03 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on February 09, 2010, 08:47:50 PM
Michael
Post by: Lowedog on February 09, 2010, 08:54:42 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on February 09, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
Michael
Post by: MtnMuley on February 10, 2010, 04:28:18 PM
Post by: konrad on February 10, 2010, 04:36:34 PM
I replaced my trophy ridge inline sight with a Spot Hogg micro adjust 5 pin with .010 pins. Shoot much better with this sight, but I personally don't like the micro adjust and don't have a need for it. I'm not too sure that mine worked correctly out of the box, and with it coming from a small archery shop in Montana, I doubt I'll be back anytime soon ask. Personally, I see no need for 7 pins. Glad to see others that also agree with this being a great sight.
MtnMuley, you can write or call Spot Hogg with any questions you may have. They are very interested in your satisfaction and will welcome your questions. I have found a call, rather than writing, gets an answer faster.
Perhaps I am biased after struggling with so much junk in the past. I am a Hogg consumer! Got the Whammy rest and B-Stinger stabilizer too.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 10, 2010, 04:40:44 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 10, 2010, 04:44:05 PM
Post by: MichaelJ on February 10, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
No pins - instinctive shooting. Instantaneous shots but you are limited to about 35 yards. For those of us who like a challenge - old school.
Maybe with a trad bow lol... Something about no sights on a compound for a challenge just seems contradicting to me. I've made my own long bows before and really enjoy shooting traditional, but until I become an extremely successful bow hunter will I ever switch to traditional gear.
WDFWsux, wouldn't the "halo's" be dependent on ones own vision or am I thinking of something totally different?
Michael
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 10, 2010, 05:09:34 PM
Check them out in person see what you think. Oh and stay away form the blue pins they suck.
Post by: MichaelJ on February 10, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Michael
Post by: WDFW-SUX on February 10, 2010, 05:55:24 PM
Post by: Lowedog on February 10, 2010, 06:24:49 PM
No pins - instinctive shooting. Instantaneous shots but you are limited to about 35 yards. For those of us who like a challenge - old school.
Uncle Ted used to shoot his old Oneida Screaming Eagle instinctive. He was a damn good shot that way too. He did use a release though. :)
Post by: konrad on February 10, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
This is the only time I have had to use the light to properly see the pins!
I have been using the .010 wrapped pins for a year under all lighting conditions, including fog, snow, rain, dusk, morning and afternoon light with ambient light coming from all directions and never seen the "halo" referred too in the above posts.
Just my experience.
K
Post by: MichaelJ on February 10, 2010, 09:40:44 PM
And Lowe, do I look like Uncle Ted??? :chuckle: ;)
Michael