Post by: toyman2 on February 15, 2010, 06:27:10 PM
1 was a marlin 30-30 lever action(my all time fav. gun)
the other was a salvage 243 bolt action
this will also kinda be a varment gun for me and a deer rifle for her,they are both about the same size and she can hold them both.
theres about $200 or so diffrence in price but thats not to much of a issue.
just kinda hard to decide so im asking for a little input.
Post by: Galpster on February 15, 2010, 06:30:34 PM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 15, 2010, 06:38:03 PM
Post by: Galpster on February 15, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Everyone should own a Marlin 30.30!! Just my :twocents:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 15, 2010, 06:43:40 PM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 15, 2010, 07:11:41 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on February 15, 2010, 07:20:09 PM
Its not that the lever gun is not accurate, I just feel it is easier to build confidence with the bolt on a young shooter with limited strength.
Shootmoore
Post by: Huntbear on February 15, 2010, 07:22:16 PM
Post by: toyman2 on February 15, 2010, 07:24:31 PM
everything sayed her i agree with,my kid is a her and she is very strong and in shape(doing ballet for 4 years).
i want the the 30-30 but the 243 i think is a smarter choice.i dont know what to do,want over desire kinda sucks.
the 30-30 has a good safty
Post by: 700xcr on February 15, 2010, 07:26:32 PM
Post by: Shootmoore on February 15, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
5 to 3 for the 243.
everything sayed her i agree with,my kid is a her and she is very strong and in shape(doing ballet for 4 years).
i want the the 30-30 but the 243 i think is a smarter choice.i dont know what to do,want over desire kinda sucks.
the 30-30 has a good safty
I would see if she can work the action of the lever gun while keeping the rifle on the shoulder. I love lever guns, but there can be issues especially in cold weather with the ease of chambering the round on the shoulder.
Shootmoore
Post by: nwhunter on February 15, 2010, 07:33:29 PM
Post by: wrangler on February 15, 2010, 07:40:15 PM
But the 30.30 is a legend. And it is accurate with a scope on it. Get one of those new Redfield scopes and it will be dead on out to 150 yards. Perfect for all kinds of game here in the NW. It is also alot of fun to shoot. Next to no kick and the lever action is smooth and fun.
Everyone should own a Marlin 30.30!! Just my :twocents:
just cause its a legend doesn't mean its not a pos caliber. if its between those 2 it's not even close, get the .243.
Post by: elksnout on February 15, 2010, 07:52:09 PM
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Post by: toyman2 on February 15, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
i hunted with a 243 for awile but never killed anything with it.
most all the shots around here are about 75-150yrds.i think the longest shot i ever have took was 300yrds.
who woulda ever thought this was such a tough decision :dunno:
Post by: WonkyWapiti on February 15, 2010, 08:10:21 PM
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Post by: 700xcr on February 15, 2010, 08:18:33 PM
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-seven/model-seven-predator.aspx (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-seven/model-seven-predator.aspx)
Post by: timberghost72 on February 15, 2010, 08:20:21 PM
Post by: toyman2 on February 15, 2010, 08:23:10 PM
Post by: MissinCaliBlacktails on February 15, 2010, 08:33:46 PM
Do you still want pics? You could always make me an offer :rolleyes:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 15, 2010, 08:36:28 PM
For what it's worth, I just gave my 11 year old a .308 win for his birthday this morning. I got him a Marlin XS7Y bolt action. I got him the .308 so he can use it for deer, bear and elk. He shoots my .270 win all the time, but it's too long and heavy for him to pack, so I got him a youth model. Problem is that I had to pick from the short action calibers, since they don't make youth rifles in .270
That left me with .243, 7mm08, or .308. I decided on the 308 because I wanted him to be able to use it for elk, because the ammo is cheaper so he can afford to shoot more, and the wide range of bullets available. Recoil is not an issue with him, since he shoots my rifle all the time, and the Marlin came with a nice recoil pad.
Between the .243 and the 30-30 I would go with the .243, but if you are looking for a pleasant to shoot youth rifle for deer, I would take a long look at the Marlin XS7Y in 7mm08.
Just my :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on February 15, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
that is what its all about,what a cool pic thank you.(assuming the little man shot him)
the kid shot that buck. it was his first animal. his dad (on the right) had come home from Iraq a month before opening day. that was opening day this year.
about an 80 yard shot down outside of pomeroy.
Post by: toyman2 on February 15, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Post by: alecvg on February 15, 2010, 08:46:41 PM
Bet that taught you a good lesson :chuckle:
Ya, still have the scar to prove it! Never have done that again. :chuckle:
Post by: ICEMAN on February 15, 2010, 09:40:59 PM
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 15, 2010, 10:15:36 PM
Thanks for all the info...Got my 10 yr old enrolled in hunters ed (April) and am also looking for a rilfe for him. I apprediate the info, though I am also thinking .270
If he can handle a full sized rifle, you will have no problem finding a .270 for him. I couldn't find one in youth model though. Short actions only.
Post by: toyman2 on February 16, 2010, 07:29:35 AM
Post by: Straight Shooter on February 16, 2010, 08:25:31 AM
Post by: AWS on February 16, 2010, 09:36:30 AM
AWS
Post by: Wazukie on February 16, 2010, 09:36:53 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 16, 2010, 10:13:32 AM
One thought on a 270. I used to have a gunshop and range up in NW MN and did a lot of scope mounting and sighting in. One of the meanest rifles I ever had to shoot was an early Rem 700 in 270 Win, it hurt. My personal guns at the time were a Ruger #1 300 Win Mag and a Custom 358 Norma Mag. I had alot of experience with recoil but that 270 was just mean. My wife shot a Rem 760 in 270 and I had a Custom Mannlicher stocked Mauser carbine in 270 and neither of them were uncomfortable to shoot.
AWS
Must have been that particular gun. I have a Remington 700 in .270 with a factory R3 Recoil pad, and it shoots softer than any centerfire rifle I have ever owned.
Also, my son's first gun was the Rossi Trifecta. Came with 3 barrels; a .22, a 20 ga, and a .243.
Advantages:
1. Price (only about $250 for 3 guns)
2. Because it was the same gun with 3 barrels, I was able to "ease" him into shooting the shotgun and the 243. We did a lot of shooting with the .22 first, got him used to the gun and the fundamentals of marksmanship, THEN, after he felt confident, we moved him to the stuff that kicked.
3. Single shot taught him to make each shot count.
4. Was an effective gun, killed his first deer and plenty of grouse with it.
5. Light and short, easy for him to handle
6. Easy assembly, disassembly, cleaning
Disadvantages:
1. He outgrew that single shot pretty quick
2. Short barrel, short range. Tough to keep it on target past 150 yards (a better scope probably would have helped).
3. Had to replace the recoil pad
4. The shotgun barrel seems to shoot consistantly high. He has overshot some birds, including his turkey last year. Don't know if it's just our gun, or that model.
We camo'ed it ourselves, he thought that was pretty cool. This is him with the buck he took with it in 2008.