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Title: taxidermy question
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 16, 2010, 09:49:58 PM
Just wondering if most taxis use a false septum in the nose or just fill with bondo and paint? :dunno:
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on February 16, 2010, 09:51:53 PM
depending on what animal I am doing, I will either use a speed septum system , or hollow it out sculpt for depth and natural look and paint it in. Filling them with bondo is not the best way to get a nice looking overall mount.


Joe
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 16, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Depends on how you do it Joe. I will cut the nose off and hog out all the canals in the nose from the back side and put in a cast septum, then will take bondo and fiberglass resin to thin it down and put it in each nostril to coat the entire inside of the nose, this also gives you a good base color to start with. Makes a perfect inner nose  ;)
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on February 17, 2010, 09:56:51 AM
I dremal out all the inner nose foam than add a spetum.  Them I sculpt all the inner nost detail with epoxy.  Than paint. 
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Elkstuffer on February 17, 2010, 10:36:41 AM
It all depends on what I'm working on. Most of the time I cut off the nose and do all of the work from the backside and then bondo the nose back into place. It makes it a lot easier when doing the finish work in the end.
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 10:41:43 AM
I think the answers above show the quality of taxidermists you are talking to.  Many taxis only put septums in their "competition" quality mounts.  I only do hobby taxidermy for myself, and have never added a septum, I just dremel out the nostrils a bit...
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: fishcrazy on February 17, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
I think the answers above show the quality of taxidermists you are talking to.  Many taxis only put septums in their "competition" quality mounts.  I only do hobby taxidermy for myself, and have never added a septum, I just dremel out the nostrils a bit...

 :chuckle:
Reminds me of a deer I had mounted. It was my first big buck. the lips pulled and the guy just used epoxy and painted it all black. I have to keep it in another room away from my other mounts. It just looks way to fake next to them. the guy I use now just makas them look so life like!! :dunno: He's does some bad azz work what can I say.

Shouldn't all Taxis strive for competition quality work? they better if I'm paying them. LOL
Kris
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Rudy on February 17, 2010, 03:19:22 PM
Shouldn't all Taxis strive for competition quality work? they better if I'm paying them. LOL
Kris

 :yeah:
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
I think the answers above show the quality of taxidermists you are talking to.  Many taxis only put septums in their "competition" quality mounts.  I only do hobby taxidermy for myself, and have never added a septum, I just dremel out the nostrils a bit...

 :chuckle:
Reminds me of a deer I had mounted. It was my first big buck. the lips pulled and the guy just used epoxy and painted it all black. I have to keep it in another room away from my other mounts. It just looks way to fake next to them. the guy I use now just makas them look so life like!! :dunno: He's does some bad azz work what can I say.

Shouldn't all Taxis strive for competition quality work? they better if I'm paying them. LOL
Kris

Fishcrazy, I think you missed my point.  I should have been more clear.
Many taxidermists (some good ones, by the way) don't put septums in their deer or elk unless they are doing a mount for a taxidermist competition.  The standards at those shows are beyond what you or I would even think to look for; not just the eyes and the noses, but the structure and placement of the ear bases, the lips etc...  The judges go around shining flashlights into noses and making sure that ear canals are anatomically correct.  To make a competition quality mount takes about twice the time (yes, twice the labor cost$$), and some spendy little add-ons that would make the cost of your deer go from $450 to over $700.
Do you care about the ear canals in your mount?  Ever get on a chair and shine a flashlight into the nose of one of your mounts to see if it is anatomically correct?

If not, then you probably wouldn't want to pay your taxidermist to "strive for competition quality work".  
I have looked pretty closely at some of Charlie's work or Michelle's work.  What I was saying was that they're work LOOKS (to my untrained eye) like competition-quality work, and that is evidenced by the fact that they put septums in their animal's noses.
See what I mean?
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 17, 2010, 04:20:23 PM
But I dont put septums in all my mounts  :chuckle:

There really isnt that much more time in doing a "competition quality"  mount . I mean there is more time spent but in all reality when you get good at doing something (competition quality) all the time you will get good at doing the work quicker. All my ears have the inner detail, its simple to do, just dont cut the lower part of the ear butts off  ;) . Add 20 minutes doing a complete septum and cutting the nose off, thats really about it. But not all competition mounts are created equally  ;) My mounts are not the best, average really. If you want to see some real nice mounts I can throw up a link  ;)
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 04:23:52 PM
*censored* Charlie, you stole my thunder.  And I was trying to stick up for you guys.. :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 17, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
Just so you know, fishcrazy is a good customer of mine now  :chuckle:
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Bearhunter on February 17, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
Throw the link up Charlie, Id like to see why you think you are only an average taxidermist.
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 04:40:12 PM

Just so you know, fishcrazy is a good customer of mine now  :chuckle:
Then he'll get spoiled.  No one believes your "aww shucks....my mounts are only average..."  :crap:

All most of us have to do is look at one of your mounts :drool:, go look at whatever is hanging on our walls :bash:, and we figure it out... :chuckle:
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 17, 2010, 07:33:52 PM
Here it is :
www.clarkstaxidermy.com (http://www.clarkstaxidermy.com)
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: JoeVon on February 17, 2010, 07:53:55 PM
Here it is :
www.clarkstaxidermy.com (http://www.clarkstaxidermy.com)


You're a humble man, Charlie... :)
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Bearhunter on February 17, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
Thanks for the link Charlie!  Man that is some incredible work!  Every piece of hair on his mounts is laid perfectly and groomed to the max.  I like the look of the puffed up rutted up Muley buck, you dont see that look especialy with the hair standing, what a lot of work that must have been.  I think as everyone would agree you are well on your way to being as good as anyone out there! 
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 08:29:03 PM
Here it is :
www.clarkstaxidermy.com (http://www.clarkstaxidermy.com)

Okay Charlie, not to beleauger my point or anything, but that guy charges $700 for a deer mount...
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 17, 2010, 08:47:02 PM
Here it is :
www.clarkstaxidermy.com (http://www.clarkstaxidermy.com)

Okay Charlie, not to beleauger my point or anything, but that guy charges $700 for a deer mount...

I know, you are right on the button man!! Did you read his opening page on how he looks at "competition mounts". He invited me over to work a few says with him if I wanted to. He is a heck of a nice guy. He is where I want to be some day. That is great work....perfect work. Thats why mine is average. I have a mount I am going to be doing for the shop on a big heavy blacktail. I was going to di it just like that muley James!
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 17, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
His mounts are impressive, but they also have a lot of "extra's".  Teeth, tounges, etc...not to mention the extra time that goes into producing a mount like that, and you pay for that stuff.
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: Rack on February 26, 2010, 07:50:42 PM
newbie on these fourms. the best way i,ve found is artiafical noses by epley or  nunekester.
about  $20 extra. fast and work verygood for compatition class mounts.
Title: Re: taxidermy question
Post by: bucklucky on February 26, 2010, 09:17:53 PM
Only problem is they are whitetail noses  ;) Ive tried them, they dont work right for blacktails or muleys.
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