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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: swanny on February 22, 2010, 06:37:01 PM

Title: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: swanny on February 22, 2010, 06:37:01 PM: I have yet to actually buy a gun, been lucky and they have all been passed on to me so far, but plan to purchase a Buckmark in the next couple of weeks. I have my concealed weapons permit and hope I will be able to go in, pick the one I want, and walk out. Any chance this will happen or will I be delayed most likely since I have yet to purchase anything? Anyway to find out if I would be delayed before I go in to make the purchase or speed the process along before hand? I'm planning to go to Cabela's to make the purchase, last time I was down there they had a good looking selection available, so having to drive back down there a second time to pick it up wouldn't be much fun.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: bankwalker on February 22, 2010, 06:52:06 PM: shouldnt have any problem at all as long as you have your cpl. having not purchased anything before wont affect anything.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on February 22, 2010, 07:09:27 PM: Nope, if you've got your CPL, then the only reason you'll get delayed is if you've got a name spelled the same as someone on a terrorist watch list.

-Steve
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: TONTO on February 22, 2010, 07:15:51 PM: I don't have a cwp, but I get delayed every damn time >:( nobody can ever tell me why or how to fix it. Just wait the 5 business days and pick it up, they never seem to come up with a reason why I can't have a gun, well probably because there isn't, but they always make me wait it out. This is on long guns, who knows what the hell would happen if I went and bought a handgun, FBI might show up to check me out personaly :dunno:. I'm sure I would have made a few more purchases here and there if I didn't have to deal with this damn "delayed status" every time.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: swanny on February 23, 2010, 05:49:37 AM: Thanks for the info guys, that's exactly what I was hoping to hear! :)
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: ICEMAN on February 23, 2010, 07:02:59 AM: Tonto, you may very well have a felon or other questionable character out there with your identical, or near identical name and date of birth. This does happen and the feds have created a database to help you from always getting delayed. The database is called the Volunteer Appeal File (VAF). You fill out a couple of forms, authorize the FBI staff to enter your data to this special databank, they issue you a special number.... Later when you attempt to buy, you provide the number at time of purchase, and the NICS staff then quickly gets you thru the process.

Read about the entire process here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm)
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: toyman2 on February 23, 2010, 04:50:38 PM: this same kinda thing in another post.
i just bought a 22 rifle and i had to wait overnight i also have my CPL and was told it didnt matter.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 23, 2010, 04:52:30 PM: The only time I've been delayed was when NICS was down, no way to know ahead of time.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: Bscman on February 24, 2010, 04:24:20 PM: 99.9% of the time it won't be an issue...
Only those with common, or similar FULL names seem to have issues--which is rare.

But hey, if you're still looking and thinking about buying it "in the next couple of weeks" then why does it matter if you get delayed an extra day or three?
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: ICEMAN on February 24, 2010, 07:19:43 PM: Two trips instead of one...gas money and time wasted for those driving a ways....
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: DoubleJ on February 24, 2010, 08:40:36 PM: I get delayed every time. With the name John Jones, you have to expect it.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 24, 2010, 08:56:20 PM: :yeah: :bash:

no way to know for sure most of the time you won't but if you usally get delayed expect it with other people maybe having the same name or they could just be busy and delay it as well.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: swanny on March 08, 2010, 06:10:20 PM: Well I wasn't delayed at all. Took about 30 minutes and I was walking out the door with this
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: ICEMAN on March 08, 2010, 08:05:17 PM: Very nice purchase.

All that worry for naught!

Congratulations on the handgun, looks very cool...
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: thinkingman on March 08, 2010, 08:07:50 PM: Nice purchase.
In re OP, make sure your DL and CWP have current, matching addresses.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 08, 2010, 08:19:44 PM: Quote from: TONTO on February 22, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
I don't have a cwp, but I get delayed every damn time >:( nobody can ever tell me why or how to fix it. Just wait the 5 business days and pick it up, they never seem to come up with a reason why I can't have a gun, well probably because there isn't, but they always make me wait it out. This is on long guns, who knows what the hell would happen if I went and bought a handgun, FBI might show up to check me out personaly :dunno:. I'm sure I would have made a few more purchases here and there if I didn't have to deal with this damn "delayed status" every time.
Do you have a marginal past from the wild teen years? If the record is clean and no prior run ins with the law you should be good to go. Unless like mentioned you have the same name as someone on the naughtly list and it automatically gets flagged each time until further investigation is done. I would go and get your concealed weapons permit. It might help the process along.
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: follow maggie on March 09, 2010, 10:11:55 AM: So, if I take my concealed pistol license to the store and buy a handgun, I don't have to wait the 5 days?
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: swanny on March 09, 2010, 10:19:14 AM: Quote from: follow maggie on March 09, 2010, 10:11:55 AM
So, if I take my concealed pistol license to the store and buy a handgun, I don't have to wait the 5 days?

There's a good chance you wont have to wait, but it still sounds like some have to wait even with the CPL and their ID. It took about 30 minutes total filling the paper work out and him calling to make sure I'm clear. He even walked me out the door...just not out to my car, what a jerk. ;)
Title: Re: Anyway to know if you will be delayed?
Post by: KillBilly on March 09, 2010, 11:19:49 AM: CPLs don't help at all on a long gun. If you want to make sure, follow Iceman's suggestion:

"The feds have created a database to help you from ever getting delayed. The database is called the Volunteer Appeal File (VAF). You fill out a couple of forms, authorize the FBI staff to enter your data to this special databank, they issue you a special number.... Later when you attempt to buy, you provide the number at time of purchase, and the NICS staff then quickly gets you thru the process.

Read about the entire process here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm) "