Post by: fire4effect on February 24, 2010, 02:10:23 AM
If any of you guys have a recommendation based off of use or lessons learned or just opinion i could use your help.
Ive been researching a lot of bow packages and one in particular that has my attention is the PSE Stinger NI. i was measured to have a 29" draw and id like to have a bout a 60 lb draw.
once i get the bow ill deff need help on arrows, for target and for hunting as well.
thanks for your help
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2010, 06:10:18 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on February 24, 2010, 07:34:45 AM
whats your budget?This is a good place to start! I see the Stinger package you mentioned is in the $420 range, and it's a tough challenge to keep a bow setup this cheap. My advice is to try and shoot a couple different brands before you buy one. You'll find a brand or line of bows that just feel better than the rest. That "feel good" feeling is simply ergonomics. All bows are designed a bit differently, and one of them will seem to be made for you. That is the bow you will shoot by far better than any other and will get more enjoyment out of the sport. If the $420 price range is right for you, then your best bet may be to get a year or two old bow off the classifieds on here or archerytalk.com. There is a big difference between an inexpensive kit bow and a top end bow. The top end bows are way too over-priced, in my opinion, but you get what you pay for in this sport, and last years bow is probably the same bow as this years latest and greatest; you'll save $500 off a bow package by getting a year-old one.
If, by chance of being in Germany, you don't have too many great options of places to go to try before you buy, and if the $420 price tag is not a major thing, then I say you'd be served well enough for now with that Stinger package. Having one in hand to shoot and learn about the sport is better than nothing at all. At least you'll have several thousand shots under your belt to begin learning what you like and don't like about the bow when you're ready to upgrade. Getting started will get you to the ranges and meeting people with many opinions and ideas who will most likely be willing to teach you all you want to learn about it.
Post by: Old Dog on February 24, 2010, 07:40:35 AM
Post by: JB Huntin on February 24, 2010, 08:08:10 AM
Post by: hunt4 on February 24, 2010, 08:22:50 AM
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* Mass weight: 3.5 pounds.
* Axle to Axle: 35 inches.
* Brace height: 7.25 inches.
* Draw weights: 60, 70 pounds.
* Cam: Advantage One Cam.
* Draw lengths: 26” through 30”
* IBO speed: 300 fps.
* Limbs: Bi-Flex composite limb, film dipped finish in Next G1
* Cable Guard Straight mounted carbon.
* Sight window 5.5” single plane window.
* Pocket: Pivoting Limb Mounting System.
* Riser Color: Next G1
* Grip: Two piece ABS panel grip.
* Let-off: 80% standard, optional 65%
Post by: lokidog on February 24, 2010, 08:34:35 AM
Have fun!
Post by: PacificNWhunter on February 24, 2010, 08:56:50 AM
Post by: colockumelk on February 24, 2010, 09:36:18 AM
I'm assuming that you are active duty military correct? If so you can get an almost top of the line bow fully set up and sent to you for $500. Bowtech has a military discount program where they get rid of last years bows to military members for super cheap. BTW I own a Hoyt so I'm not trying to tow the Bowtech line. However the bows mentioned below are not nearly as good or high quality as the Diamond Marquis. The Marquis was Diamond's Flagship Bow in 2008. In short in 2008 it was a top of the line bow. So basically you're getting a top of the line bow fully setup for $500. Can't get better than this.
Here's the link for the military discount
http://www.bowtecharchery.com/military_discount.php (http://www.bowtecharchery.com/military_discount.php)
Here's how much it retails for at Gander Mountain. (BTW this price is bow only. No kit.)
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=401988&pdesc=Diamond_Marquis_Compound_Bow&aID=503AA1&merchID=4006 (http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=401988&pdesc=Diamond_Marquis_Compound_Bow&aID=503AA1&merchID=4006)
Here's a bow review for it.
http://www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/JonSilks-0001/Field_Evaluation_-_Diamond_Marquis.shtml (http://www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/JonSilks-0001/Field_Evaluation_-_Diamond_Marquis.shtml)
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on February 24, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
wow...thats pretty effing awesome of Bowtech.
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Post by: MichaelJ on February 24, 2010, 12:27:03 PM
Michael
Post by: MIKEXRAY on February 24, 2010, 04:06:20 PM
Post by: colockumelk on February 26, 2010, 08:30:04 AM
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on February 26, 2010, 09:17:19 AM
Spot Hoog also offers some great Military discounts.... so if you decide to get a different sight check them out!
Post by: Shootmoore on February 26, 2010, 09:52:37 AM
Here are two cents that I would throw in as well. As in learning to shoot a rifle I always suggest learning to shoot iron sights first, then learning to shoot with a scope.
Archery I always suggest learning to shoot instinctive first then learn to shoot with sights. This is just my oppinion.
Shootmoore
Post by: fire4effect on March 01, 2010, 02:14:45 AM
I kind of disagree. I am a big believer in train like you fight just my :twocents:.
after reading your particular imput, i looked on bowtechs site, found the diamond marques and it by far is the best deal ive found for a top of the line bow. being active duty and over here in germany, there are zero chances to touch and fire a bow before purchasing. we have a rod and gun club that has two bear bows but the manager wont let us shoot them because then he cant sell them as new. seems kinda backwards to me.
any whoo i do plan on upgrading the sites to perhaps a 5 pin setup. with a tru ball short-n-sweet release. any suggestions for arrow weights and browadheads?
Post by: colockumelk on March 01, 2010, 09:51:04 AM
Before we can tell you your bow set up we need some info. Go to this link and as Todd ID what you should do. He's the subject matter expert and can help you out. God knows he's helped me out lot. Good luck and have fun. Plus if you can send us pics of your new bow when it gets there.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,43087.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,43087.0.html)
Post by: Todd_ID on March 01, 2010, 02:02:03 PM
Post by: colockumelk on March 01, 2010, 02:58:03 PM
I've always got some input on most subjects, but I'm the master of none!
Okay Todd I know I speak for all of us on here when I say :liar:
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2010, 08:40:39 AM
Post by: Todd_ID on March 02, 2010, 12:38:37 PM
Okay before I get banned. F.A.G stands for Field Artillery Guy. As for you Todd if your not an expert than my names Hillary Clinton and I should forever be addressed as Madam Secretary ;)Thanks for the compliments, Madame Secretary!
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
Post by: fire4effect on March 03, 2010, 12:45:39 AM
i know this might sound a bit stupid but id like to see if there is this particular type of arrow out there. id like to have a arrow that has a carbon fibre pattern on the outside. not just black but like a weave pattern. id also like to see if there was this particular arrow with red and white fletchings.
anybody got any suggestions?
Post by: KillBilly on March 03, 2010, 04:53:14 AM
no, i had no idea what F.A.G. stood for. i know that fire for effect stands for though. todd, that recomedation for those easton arrows whew. jesus you must have some deep pockets. those suckers are expensive.
i know this might sound a bit stupid but id like to see if there is this particular type of arrow out there. id like to have a arrow that has a carbon fibre pattern on the outside. not just black but like a weave pattern. id also like to see if there was this particular arrow with red and white fletchings.
anybody got any suggestions?
If you get arrows with carbon fiber pattern on the outside, you have a carbon fiber arrow. In my opinion, they don't hold well. if you bend them you can actually see miniscule pieces of resin popping off and they can and will shatter on impact sometimes and leave carbon fiber in your game meat. I personally won't use them and it is just my opinion. As far as the color of fletches, buy raw shafts and fletch them your self or have the archery shop fletch them with your preference of colors. You don't have to buy pre-fletched arrows. On another note, you might just step up and use FOBs.
Post by: Todd_ID on March 03, 2010, 07:06:46 AM
Post by: colockumelk on March 03, 2010, 09:04:08 AM
Your a Field Artillery Guy and you never heard the term F.A.G used before? You must be pretty new then. Hell you guys used to carry around these bags that you referred to as FAG bags. I only know this because my immediate boss is a proud "FAG" :chuckle: And yes I know what Fire for Effect means. I've been to Iraq twice and used the hell out of arty.
Post by: colockumelk on March 04, 2010, 01:24:14 PM
Post by: colockumelk on March 09, 2010, 05:00:52 PM
2008 Bow review: Diamond Marquis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD6DvsruMrQ&feature=channel#)