Post by: ST_C5 on February 24, 2010, 11:45:04 AM
Post by: satchel3006 on February 24, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2010, 12:20:12 PM
auto? what do you prefer?
you can get a whole lot of turkey gun for $600.00
If I had $600 to burn I'd be forced to try out one of those 870 Tactical Turkey guns just cuzz they look cool.
:)
Post by: Buckmark on February 24, 2010, 12:39:44 PM
Bet you would be under 600 and have a great shooting and unique turkey gun..
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2010, 12:45:31 PM
maybe they don't make the tactical turkey anymore...the shurshot is cool though...
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0075468290717a.shtml (http://www.cabelas.com/p-0075468290717a.shtml)
I can't get on remington's website at work due to the firewall.
Post by: Buckmark on February 24, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 24, 2010, 12:48:52 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2010, 12:51:04 PM
the only thing that alarms me is that they are a universal fit. No solid reason I guess, but that tends to scare me a little.
Post by: Buckmark on February 24, 2010, 12:56:53 PM
Buck-I've seen those stocks used for $50.00I agree, just trying to let him know that for 600, he can have a gun, shells, gas money and a soda for the road.. :chuckle:, I am just cheap (thrifty) hate to see guys spend more that what is needed. (unless they are spending it with me.)
the only thing that alarms me is that they are a universal fit. No solid reason I guess, but that tends to scare me a little.
There was an 870 in the classifieds for like 200 just the other day..
Post by: fishcrazy on February 24, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
Kris
Post by: bowhunterforever on February 24, 2010, 04:07:27 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 24, 2010, 04:12:06 PM
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1413&cat=24 (http://hunting-washington.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=1413&cat=24)
I bought a handgun from the person listing it and he was a good seller.
if you want the shurshot stock, they sell for 80 bucks on cabelas and can be installed w/o special tools:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat20811&id=0058345229371a&navCount=1&podId=0058345&parentId=cat20811&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=XK&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233&hasJS=true (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat20811&id=0058345229371a&navCount=1&podId=0058345&parentId=cat20811&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=XK&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233&hasJS=true)
Buy a full choke or a turkey choke for 20 bucks and you have a set up for about 300 bucks.
Don't let anyone tell you that you need 3.5 inch shells for turkey either! A 3 inch 12 ga is more than enough gun to take out a gobbler. I consider having a 12 ga that shoots 3.5 inch shells a nice to have feature.
Post by: BPturkeys on February 24, 2010, 08:48:54 PM
BUT...the true test is in how well does the gun fit. Short of getting one fit to you (tough to buy one like that for $600), go to the store and snap a few different models up to your shoulder. Without making any adjustments, actually look down the barrel and see if you are down on the stock and aiming properly. If you have to adjust your head to get down on a gun, best to move on to something else. Remember, you'll never shoot a gun well that doesn't fit properly.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 24, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
Post by: Intruder on February 25, 2010, 08:21:34 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 25, 2010, 01:41:54 PM
I do think the shorter "turkey barrel" is an advantage as are sites. 3 1/2" chamber isn't really needed IMO.
I would agree that the 24" turkey barrel is only an advantage on being easier to manuver in the woods and thick areas. As for the 3 1/2", I'm still trying to prove to myself that I really needed it. Plenty of birds fell with the 3".
Post by: Tom Tamer on February 26, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
Mossbergs you can usually get for around $350 leaving plenty left over to start your call arsenal :IBCOOL:
Post by: Raul Duke on February 26, 2010, 08:05:27 PM
Post by: lokidog on February 27, 2010, 10:48:07 AM
Don't go with a Nova, rattly SOB when it is on your shoulder, I know cuz I've got one. Rem 870's are always a good gun as well. Agree with some other posts, 3.5" shells are not necessary for turkeys. Most of mine have fallen to 2 3/4". 3.5" action is a long stroke on a pump gun. :twocents:
Shorter barrel would be nice too.
Post by: JAMMER55 on March 02, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
Post by: Buckmark on March 04, 2010, 04:24:53 PM
Post by: Jekemi on March 05, 2010, 10:27:43 AM
Post by: Rack on March 06, 2010, 11:03:09 PM
Tried several different guns. Ended up taking out my sp 10. Don,t like the recoil pump guns have with turkey loads.
Post by: NWTFhunter on March 07, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
Post by: KimberRich on March 10, 2010, 12:59:12 PM
Tried several different guns. Ended up taking out my sp 10. Don,t like the recoil pump guns have with turkey loads.
:yeah:
I was shocked how hard my 870 kicked with a hot 3 1/2" turkey load in it!!! Brutal..
Post by: NWTFhunter on March 10, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
Post by: lokidog on March 10, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
The 870 will kick you if your shooting a turkey load at a target to pattern your shot.... However, when you pull the trigger on a bird, its usually not an issue.
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I personally see no reason for 3 1/2 inch loads for turkeys. I have dropped more with 2 3/4's than 3's even. Why beat yourself up when you don't have to while target shooting. Especially with the turkey choke tubes, you will now put more pellets on target and don't need the extra numbers in a 3 1/2. The shorter shells also make it a lot cheaper to shoot a variety of loads and target shoot a lot to see what your gun likes best. :twocents:[
Post by: jackelope on March 10, 2010, 08:49:10 PM
it doesn't have to be a 3.5"er.
you only need a few rounds to determine what patterns well...it's not like you're sighting in a rifle...
:dunno:
Post by: lokidog on March 10, 2010, 09:20:35 PM
Post by: Buckmark on March 10, 2010, 09:21:58 PM
Post by: lokidog on March 10, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 11, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
You make my point about 3 and 3 1/2 inch rounds. I have shot an 870 Wingmaster since 1977 and most pumps will beat the crap out of you with turkey loads. If you are trying to figure which will pattern best, you might shoot a bit more.
no need for me...I've got my patterns handled.
I'm not sure what you mean by your statement.
Post by: jackelope on March 11, 2010, 01:18:36 PM
SXS with double triggers, pull them both at the same time
no thanks...not on purpose anyway...
:'(
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on March 11, 2010, 01:35:40 PM
Yelp, Back me up!!! :chuckle:
Post by: KimberRich on March 11, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
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The 870 will kick you if your shooting a turkey load at a target to pattern your shot.... However, when you pull the trigger on a bird, its usually not an issue.
I personally see no reason for 3 1/2 inch loads for turkeys. I have dropped more with 2 3/4's than 3's even. Why beat yourself up when you don't have to while target shooting. Especially with the turkey choke tubes, you will now put more pellets on target and don't need the extra numbers in a 3 1/2. The shorter shells also make it a lot cheaper to shoot a variety of loads and target shoot a lot to see what your gun likes best. :twocents:[
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Didn't I read a post about someone shooting pen raised birds on an island at 15 feet?? :chuckle: :stirthepot:
Post by: KimberRich on March 11, 2010, 01:56:55 PM
the 870 will kick the crap out of you with a 3" turkey load FYI...
it doesn't have to be a 3.5"er.
you only need a few rounds to determine what patterns well...it's not like you're sighting in a rifle...
:dunno:
Totally agree.. I think I fired 2 rounds each of #4's, #5's, and #6's to determine what patterned the best. For my 870 with the Winchester Ammo it was the #5's.
Post by: lokidog on March 11, 2010, 02:34:33 PM
I wanted my boy to have a chance to go with me on a turkey hunt for his first hunting experience.
So, you just threw the other rounds, that you decided didn't pattern as well, away? Are you suggesting people should only shoot the minimum amount of practice rounds possible?
Post by: Wacenturion on March 11, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
KR, yeah, you did read about me shooting with a 2 3/4 inch shell. So what's your point? I am not sure where you get the idea that they were pen-raised birds, unless you fall into the same category as WACent that any bird whose relative, no matter how far removed that might have been pen-raised, is also the same as a pen-raised one.... Maybe the only birds you think can be called in within 50 yards are pen-raised. :dunno:
I wanted my boy to have a chance to go with me on a turkey hunt for his first hunting experience.
So, you just threw the other rounds, that you decided didn't pattern as well, away? Are you suggesting people should only shoot the minimum amount of practice rounds possible?
Well if you're going to bring me into the discussion and credit me with something, I'll have to return the favor. KR probably got the idea they are game farm stock birds from you................not me ...........as in part of your reply to a question on another thread which says..........
Re: Turkeys in the back yard with dumbfounded deer
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 05:12:47 PM »
A resident released them 15 or so years ago. They are finally showing up more on our end of the island as they used to spend most of their time in a protected area. Last year I let a tom live that was courting our pet hen (with a tag in my pocket). He sired at least six chicks in the next door neighbor's yard. The same guy let pheasants go here as well but they only lasted a couple of years because of the racoons.
Might add.....................
The portion about the 15 feet came from your description of a bird you took up there on the island from another thread about turkey hunting stories if I recall. Again..........not from me.
Post by: jackelope on March 11, 2010, 03:45:28 PM
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So, you just threw the other rounds, that you decided didn't pattern as well, away? Are you suggesting people should only shoot the minimum amount of practice rounds possible?
not sure if you were talking at me or Rich, but I'll field that from my end.
I don't throw ammo away...I have probably 6 boxes of turkey loads in my safe.
I'm also not sure where you get the idea anyone is insinuating that one should shoot as few rounds as possible. What I was saying and feel safe to assume what Rich was saying is that you don't need to shoot 20 rounds to determine whether a turkey load patterns well. 2-3 shots with each shell should give you a dang good idea of a pattern. It's not the ammo you burn through but the targets when you change a target after every shot.
Post by: KimberRich on March 11, 2010, 03:56:19 PM
You can shoot them with 2 3/4" shells all you want and I'm glad that you get to save a little $$ in the process. I choose to shoot 3 1/2" shells and only like to pattern a couple of each load because I'm a wimp and don't like get pounded by them..
Post by: KimberRich on March 11, 2010, 03:59:25 PM
QuoteSo, you just threw the other rounds, that you decided didn't pattern as well, away? Are you suggesting people should only shoot the minimum amount of practice rounds possible?
not sure if you were talking at me or Rich, but I'll field that from my end.
I don't throw ammo away...I have probably 6 boxes of turkey loads in my safe.
I'm also not sure where you get the idea anyone is insinuating that one should shoot as few rounds as possible. What I was saying and feel safe to assume what Rich was saying is that you don't need to shoot 20 rounds to determine whether a turkey load patterns well. 2-3 shots with each shell should give you a dang good idea of a pattern. It's not the ammo you burn through but the targets when you change a target after every shot.
:yeah:
Didn't say the other loads were bad.. Just said the didn't pattern as well. I'll keep them and try them in other guns/chokes and see how the pattern. 3 1/2" ammo is way to expensive for me to throw away!
Post by: KimberRich on March 11, 2010, 04:01:04 PM
Maybe we should get back to the original topic.. Sorry fellas.
We can debate patterning, per-raised birds, and other stuff on another thread.
Post by: ST_C5 on April 13, 2010, 11:06:38 AM
So thanks again to everyone.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 13, 2010, 11:16:23 AM