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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Wyattwk on March 06, 2010, 03:20:50 PM

Title: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Wyattwk on March 06, 2010, 03:20:50 PM: One of the old hand-me-downs I got from my grandfather. I've checked over the gun and I haven't been able to find any markings to help identify. Anybody have any idea what I've got here?
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Shootmoore on March 06, 2010, 03:31:46 PM: I'm thinking a Springfield 1878 Trapdoor

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: spikehunter on March 06, 2010, 04:06:02 PM: Whats up w/ the made in canada plywood ?
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Wyattwk on March 06, 2010, 04:55:32 PM: Quote from: spikehunter on March 06, 2010, 04:06:02 PM
Whats up w/ the made in canada plywood ?

It was hanging on the interior wall of our unfinished garage.
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: wadu1 on March 06, 2010, 05:31:38 PM: Quote from: Shootmoore on March 06, 2010, 03:31:46 PM
I'm thinking a Springfield 1878 Trapdoor

Shootmoore

Looks like a springfield of some kind with out seeing more of the reciever it is hard to tell. Some late Springfilds front stuffers were modified into 45-70 trap doors.
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Shootmoore on March 06, 2010, 05:40:31 PM: Quote from: wadu1 on March 06, 2010, 05:31:38 PM
Quote from: Shootmoore on March 06, 2010, 03:31:46 PM
I'm thinking a Springfield 1878 Trapdoor

Shootmoore

Looks like a springfield of some kind with out seeing more of the reciever it is hard to tell. Some late Springfilds front stuffers were modified into 45-70 trap doors.

I agree, any chance of seeing a top view of the reciever? I'm 95% sure it is a Trapdoor If its been converted to a 45-70 I think it would be an 1886 but might have the year wrong.

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: AWS on March 07, 2010, 09:49:22 PM: It seems to have a nipple not a firing pin( a trapdoor firing pin is at a shallower angle) so it looks to be a civil war musket of some type. Springfield or a southern copy.

AWS
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 08, 2010, 08:32:02 AM: It doesn't appear to be a trap door. It may have been upgraded from a flint lock to a cap at some point. Depending on how old it is.
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Shootmoore on March 08, 2010, 09:18:35 AM: Here are some Springfields to compare to.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrtyrergalleries.com%2Fimages%2F1200.jpg&hash=4ee73ff95357a2030a59bcc9ba873184a10f9453)

Shootmoore
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: Wyattwk on March 08, 2010, 10:38:39 AM: The firing pin has been grinded down, my dad claims. I'll get some more pictures and some top-down shots here shortly.
Title: Re: Trying to identify old muzzleloader
Post by: BPturkeys on March 08, 2010, 04:01:31 PM: It appears to be one of the US muskets...circa 1840's-1850's...Springfield, maybe Enfield...just can't tell much from only two pictures. It does look like it has been badly modified of the years which also makes identification tough. One thing for sure, it is NOT a Trapdoor or any other cartridge gun. It is clearly a percussion gun. It is pretty hard to give much help with just those two pictures to go on. Take it to a gun show and I am sure there will be someone that can make a positive ID on the old girl.