Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 16, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Austrian,
Post by: bigtex on March 16, 2010, 11:10:59 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/blackbear.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/blackbear.html)
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 16, 2010, 11:26:03 AM
Check out this site, it provides you with the average amount of points a person has when drawn
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/blackbear.html (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/blackbear.html)
Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 16, 2010, 11:27:26 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 16, 2010, 11:55:15 AM
I only have one point from last year's draw :( Hopin' for the lottery...
Same here Pathfinder :(
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 16, 2010, 11:58:05 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 16, 2010, 12:01:32 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 16, 2010, 12:02:56 PM
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Post by: bucklucky on March 16, 2010, 12:23:35 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 16, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
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Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 16, 2010, 01:24:23 PM
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Post by: Jerome on March 16, 2010, 04:51:17 PM
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Post by: boneaddict on March 16, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
Post by: Jerome on March 16, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
It's odd how many there are with 5 points...only 1 unit took 4+ points and 7 took more than 3 on average.Thats the draw system for you. We will see if i can pull it out this year.
Post by: bobcat on March 16, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
It's odd how many there are with 5 points...only 1 unit took 4+ points and 7 took more than 3 on average.
As I've said many times, the average points means almost nothing. It's an interesting number to look at, but just not really useful. As an extreme example look at some hunts that only have 1 permit available, of which there are many. Say 2000 people apply for that hunt and on average they have 8 points each. But the person that ends up drawing it has only 1 point.... average points to draw that permit = 1. So how reliable is that number in knowing how many points it takes to draw that permit?
Post by: 87Ford on March 16, 2010, 06:08:14 PM
Post by: Bridger on March 16, 2010, 06:14:39 PM
Post by: seaduckhunter on March 16, 2010, 06:22:46 PM
Post by: Sideswipe on March 16, 2010, 09:05:38 PM
PS: If you don't like bear meat, take care of it & give it to me!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HUNT on March 16, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
Post by: Elkstuffer on March 16, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Post by: Sideswipe on March 16, 2010, 09:38:06 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 16, 2010, 10:44:48 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 17, 2010, 07:36:52 AM
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
Post by: upriver on March 18, 2010, 08:28:40 AM
Post by: HuntingFanatic on March 18, 2010, 08:50:29 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 18, 2010, 08:53:51 AM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
Post by: upriver on March 18, 2010, 09:10:28 AM
Last year I drew that Eder Permit after I had all my vaction time planned so I had to adjust and just go for a couple days. Thats all I could fit in. Wished I would have had more time.
Post by: bobcat on March 18, 2010, 09:11:51 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 18, 2010, 07:02:02 PM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
I have done fairly well over the years. At least 4 elk (3 bull & a cow that I can remember) permits and at least 3 or 4 antlerless deer permits.
But like Bobcat said, it depends on what you apply for and more importantly HOW you apply.
Post by: saylean on March 19, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 25, 2010, 10:55:26 AM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
I have done fairly well over the years. At least 4 elk (3 bull & a cow that I can remember) permits and at least 3 or 4 antlerless deer permits.
But like Bobcat said, it depends on what you apply for and more importantly HOW you apply.
You lucky dog :chuckle: :chuckle: I understand it allways depends on the unit you apply, but it makes a difference on how you apply :dunno: Do you mean the selection of the unit :dunno:
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 05:13:46 PM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
I have done fairly well over the years. At least 4 elk (3 bull & a cow that I can remember) permits and at least 3 or 4 antlerless deer permits.
But like Bobcat said, it depends on what you apply for and more importantly HOW you apply.
You lucky dog :chuckle: :chuckle: I understand it allways depends on the unit you apply, but it makes a difference on how you apply :dunno: Do you mean the selection of the unit :dunno:
Guess I need to amend that....Drew this year with two points.
As far as how?
A few of us have explained this to death but some still don't agree.
Basically look at the odds of drawing. (amount of permits vs. applicants) and then put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.
Post by: Bob33 on March 26, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.It makes sense if the hardest to draw tag is the one you want the least. If you want the easiest to draw tag more than any of the other four, it should be the first choice.
Post by: jager on March 26, 2010, 05:39:53 PM
Not drawn, with one previous point :dunno: ....Two now.
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2010, 05:42:28 PM
put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.It makes sense if the hardest to draw tag is the one you want the least. If you want the easiest to draw tag more than any of the other four, it should be the first choice.
It still doesn't make sense, because there's no chance of drawing it. It would be like putting a doe permit for a first choice and the Desert buck late rifle permit as a 4th choice. Why would someone do that?
Post by: markts on March 26, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
Post by: MAGhunter on March 26, 2010, 05:57:01 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.It makes sense if the hardest to draw tag is the one you want the least. If you want the easiest to draw tag more than any of the other four, it should be the first choice.
It still doesn't make sense, because there's no chance of drawing it. It would be like putting a doe permit for a first choice and the Desert buck late rifle permit as a 4th choice. Why would someone do that?
I agree Bobcat. The easiest draw should be in the last position. If the easiest is in the first position then there is (almost) no chance of drawing your other choices.
And remember I said "Basically". There are other variables and always exceptions to the rule.
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 26, 2010, 06:13:51 PM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
I have done fairly well over the years. At least 4 elk (3 bull & a cow that I can remember) permits and at least 3 or 4 antlerless deer permits.
But like Bobcat said, it depends on what you apply for and more importantly HOW you apply.
You lucky dog :chuckle: :chuckle: I understand it allways depends on the unit you apply, but it makes a difference on how you apply :dunno: Do you mean the selection of the unit :dunno:
Guess I need to amend that....Drew this year with two points.
As far as how?
A few of us have explained this to death but some still don't agree.
Basically look at the odds of drawing. (amount of permits vs. applicants) and then put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.
OK, that I did knew! You drew again :tup: I guess I am stuck because there is only one unit (49 North) that I want to hunt and that's the only choice I put in for. Well next year I go in with three points, maybe I get lucky. Good luck to you! I get mine in August :IBCOOL:
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
I drew the first time I put in in 2005 with 1 point.
Didn't draw the next year.
Drew the following year with two points.
Drew the following year with 1 point.
Applied for point.
Applied this year with two points.
:yike: :yike: I want to be as lucky as you, :'( Did you have as much luck on the other draws??
I have done fairly well over the years. At least 4 elk (3 bull & a cow that I can remember) permits and at least 3 or 4 antlerless deer permits.
But like Bobcat said, it depends on what you apply for and more importantly HOW you apply.
You lucky dog :chuckle: :chuckle: I understand it allways depends on the unit you apply, but it makes a difference on how you apply :dunno: Do you mean the selection of the unit :dunno:
Guess I need to amend that....Drew this year with two points.
As far as how?
A few of us have explained this to death but some still don't agree.
Basically look at the odds of drawing. (amount of permits vs. applicants) and then put them in order of hardest to draw to easiest to draw. It makes no sense to put your toughest draw as a 4th choice.
OK, that I did knew! You drew again :tup: I guess I am stuck because there is only one unit (49 North) that I want to hunt and that's the only choice I put in for. Well next year I go in with three points, maybe I get lucky. Good luck to you! I get mine in August :IBCOOL:
Thanks...
Oh ... find me a color phase and I will be over in August. LOL
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 26, 2010, 06:18:38 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 06:21:55 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: There are a ton of nice Cinnamon and Brown colored bears over there :drool: I send you a pic of my monster in Aug :chuckle:
Or show it to me when you "guide" me to one. lol
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 26, 2010, 06:35:25 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 26, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Post by: Ripper on March 26, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 26, 2010, 07:40:04 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 26, 2010, 07:47:31 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 26, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
I got drawn with 5 points, only applied for 1 unit.Same unit but with two points.
Post by: billythekidrock on March 26, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
Billy :P
That is the type I want!
Post by: mulehunter on March 26, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
Mulehunter :'(
Post by: Wyoming08 on March 29, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
We drew out in the LICK CREEK area. :IBCOOL:
I hope we area as lucky Killing one as we were drawing out..
:hello: NA SERVUS...
Post by: mattaylor81 on March 30, 2010, 08:52:58 AM
Post by: hogsniper on March 30, 2010, 08:57:49 AM
Post by: hoofer on March 30, 2010, 09:25:12 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 30, 2010, 05:10:16 PM
Drew Kapowsin with 1 point- first choice. Drew there in 08' and shot a old boar that squared 6-3 1/2 350+. Hunted in there for 23 days before harvesting on the 28th of May. Never did see another harvest report card in the box. Anybody know how many bears were killed in 08' Spring?
Any pics, sounds like a hell of a bear.