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Title: lincoln a
Post by: steveH on April 01, 2010, 02:17:22 PM

I drew a lincoln A tag and was looking for some pointers. i have never hunted that unit before and i am not sure on access. i heard the south end of the unit would be the best place to start.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 01, 2010, 03:37:16 PM

If you're coming from the south you can access it from Highway 6, coming from the north, go in on Lincoln Creek Rd out of Centralia. I'm not sure if one part of the unit is better than any other. I would just hunt whatever area is closest to where you live. It's kind of hard to recommend anything yet, without even knowing what part of the unit is open. I think it will be a tough hunt. You'll be doing good just to see one bear all spring in there, in my opinion.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 01, 2010, 04:13:51 PM

Quote from: steveH on April 01, 2010, 02:17:22 PM

I drew a lincoln A tag and was looking for some pointers. i have never hunted that unit before and i am not sure on access. i heard the south end of the unit would be the best place to start.

Welcome......

Before you get bashed for being a first time poster asking for info, I suggest you go to the Introductions thread and tell us a little about yourself. It will go a long way in getting help.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 01, 2010, 06:01:00 PM

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You'll be doing good just to see one bear all spring in there, in my opinion

I got to see one last year while Turkey hunting in unit (on Weyerhauser land even)
I talked to some employees (WH) today while scouting, and was told they have seen a couple.
I think, just like anywhere, if you work for it, you should get results.
The annual harvest for the whole unit has gone from 3-4 bears to 10-11 since 2003, so there should be a good chance of a 10% success rate, as in 5 of us lucky permit holders should harvest a bear.....

You  should look at WDFW GoHunt mapping, to get a good idea, probably wont include DNR land,

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 05, 2010, 07:09:45 PM

I'll be coming in from the south maybe......  Got the permit in hand, whuch just adds to the confusion :dunno: :chuckle: Open on days designated by Weyerhauser between APR 15 - JUNE 15 :dunno:  That portion of 501 that is designated............I've called the canned information line recorded in September 2009..............I keep telling myself patience, someone will give me more info....... :rolleyes: :dunno:  We will be camping at Rainbow Falls State Park, unless can find a spot on public land.  I should be used to this by now :bash:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 05, 2010, 08:20:33 PM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 05, 2010, 07:09:45 PM

I'll be coming in from the south maybe......  Got the permit in hand, whuch just adds to the confusion :dunno: :chuckle: Open on days designated by Weyerhauser between APR 15 - JUNE 15 :dunno:  That portion of 501 that is designated............I've called the canned information line recorded in September 2009..............I keep telling myself patience, someone will give me more info....... :rolleyes: :dunno:  We will be camping at Rainbow Falls State Park, unless can find a spot on public land.  I should be used to this by now :bash:

You would think we would learn. :bash:

But the CF and Copalis hunts were so much easier and straight forward.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 05, 2010, 09:39:52 PM

I attempted to contact Weyerhauser...
Reply:
Hi Michael, In order to handle the hundreds of inquiries we receive each year regarding hunting and recreational access on Weyerhaeuser property we have set up a Public Access Hotline. The hotline explains our recreational access policies and rules. There is also specific information, by tree farm, of what areas are open and closed for public access. This hotline is updated regularly as necessary.  The hotline number in Washington is 1-866-636-6531. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: wyresponse@weyerhaeuser.com [mailto:wyresponse@weyerhaeuser.com] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:22 PMTo: (Contact) Timberlands, WestSubject: WY.com form - Contact Us by E-mail   To- TimberLandsWest@weyerhaeuser.comSubmitted- 4/5/2010 12:21 PMSubmitting Page- http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/Company/CorporateAffairs/Contact/ContactByEmail (http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/Company/CorporateAffairs/Contact/ContactByEmail) Form Name- Contact Us by E-mail
 :bash:
I still have not gotten a response from Biologist from Region 5..(First E-mail in Feb).
 :dunno:
scott.brummer@dfw.wa.gov
 :bash:
 or "Team Vancouver"
teamvancouver@dfw.wa.gov

I think if we don't hear back from them soon, we should just figure, if it is Weyerhauser it is open...

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 05, 2010, 10:29:17 PM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 05, 2010, 09:39:52 PM

I think if we don't hear back from them soon, we should just figure, if it is Weyerhauser it is open...

:yeah:   I wouldn't even bother trying to contact Weyerhaeuser. Good luck with that. Just hunt on Weyerhaeuser and you'll be fine. I'm going to try contacting somebody with DNR and find out why the state land can't be hunted.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 05, 2010, 11:13:42 PM

There is a lot of logging going on in my section of unit, I keep asking the workers I run into questions, but so far only one guy has been helpful (told me where he saw some poop), but it is on the wrong side of a red dot.....

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 06, 2010, 07:44:58 PM

You would think we would learn. :bash:

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Don't want to start a wildfire >:(  PM'd you what little I know :bash: :chuckle:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 06, 2010, 07:53:24 PM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 05, 2010, 11:13:42 PM

but it is on the wrong side of a red dot.....

The red dots just mean no motorized vehicles, correct?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 06, 2010, 08:05:31 PM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 06, 2010, 07:44:58 PM

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You would think we would learn. :bash:

Don't want to start a wildfire >:(  PM'd you what little I know :bash: :chuckle:

Uh, wildfire?...Try blazin' inferno!
I am so hot right now it is not funny.

Thanks for the pm though.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bearmanric on April 06, 2010, 08:09:47 PM

Rainbow falls is the only place to camp I assume. I might spend a few days camped there. Leaving Friday morning back to washington 4 day drive.
. Looking forward to calling. Just did up 3000 Mylar reeds to bring home. Testing some for bear. See ya in the woods. Rick

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 06, 2010, 08:14:40 PM

Quote from: bearmanric on April 06, 2010, 08:09:47 PM

Rainbow falls is the only place to camp I assume. I might spend a few days camped there. Leaving Friday morning back to washington 4 day drive.
. Looking forward to calling. Just did up 3000 Mylar reeds to bring home. Testing some for bear. See ya in the woods. Rick

Dont you live in Tenino anymore ?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bearmanric on April 06, 2010, 08:26:37 PM

Yes I do enjoy a nice bear camp. I here in Michigan coming home Friday. need a break. I'll be mainly going in off the Brooklyn road. I live on
offut Lake road.Rick

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 06, 2010, 08:35:35 PM

Welcome home (in 4 days)
Just for info...
Lincoln Creek Road to Chandler Road in Doty – GMU 501 – The L-3000 line is mostly DNR, I dont know if it is huntable per our permits, but you should be able to camp on it.. :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 06, 2010, 08:38:32 PM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 06, 2010, 08:35:35 PM

Welcome home (in 4 days)
Just for info...
Lincoln Creek Road to Chandler Road in Doty – GMU 501 – The L-3000 line is mostly DNR, I dont know if it is huntable per our permits, but you should be able to camp on it.. :dunno:

I would imagine it is out of the hunt area, but I agree that it could be a good place to camp.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bearmanric on April 07, 2010, 05:28:44 AM

I'll go in off the doty road then. I'll know more when I get home. This is my iPhone when I get home I'll check it out to with the Gps on my iPhone. it shows the road's and wood's pretty cool. I'm going to make the best of it. Want to test new call's.Rick

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 07, 2010, 07:56:32 PM

Anybody get a packet for Lincoln yet?  I'm planning on being there 15th - 18th for round 1.   Might do a scouting trip and try to find a camp spot on DNR land this weekend.  Really hoping to have the promised info by then :dunno:  Rick, are you going to have some extra calls with you?  I've got a couple of yourcalls as gifts.  Wouldn't mind picking up a couple more if I bump into you.
GH

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 07, 2010, 08:02:54 PM

I have not gotten anything yet. I may go at least once so send me a pm when you know where you will be staying.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 07, 2010, 08:05:22 PM

No "packet" yet...
I did head up to my "crappy road", and pulled my camera...Nothing.. :dunno:
I will go up there for a look around tomorrow after I drop my daughter off at school, hope to find something a little more interesting,,,,
We really should come up with a rendezvous spot, just for the hell of it.
I would be interested in acquiring a call from bearmanric also......

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 07, 2010, 09:24:25 PM

if any fellow hunters are looking for a space to stay  i can set you up for dry hook ups ont the weekends and maybe help a little i live off lincoln creek road by the 3000 gate let me know we can talk details and critters ive seen a few

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 07, 2010, 09:33:25 PM

I cruise through there almost every day (doing my rounds), I don't need a place to stay, as I live in Adna, but would stop by for coffee (if you got any) and swap some stories....
When's a good time ?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 07, 2010, 09:41:14 PM

yea that would be cool how about saturday sometime i gotta get a load of fire wood with the kid in the morning  but im open after that

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 07, 2010, 09:42:54 PM

if your lucky the elk will be out when ya stop by

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 07, 2010, 09:47:32 PM

if you make the rounds alot you know where i live maybe

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 07, 2010, 09:49:45 PM

i noticed on your pic you have kids more than welcome to bring them i have two girls my self

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 07, 2010, 10:17:42 PM

Last week I saw the elk out behind the fire station, even a bull that was still sporting headgear...
I will definately be out and about Sat.
How old are yor girls ?
Where are you getting firewood ?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bearmanric on April 08, 2010, 07:19:28 AM

leaving in the morning. I'll put extra call's in my truck. i'll be in a 09 Toyota Tundra slate grey says RRcalls in back window. would like to meet every one. Rick

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv68%2Fbearmanric%2F5d3918ad.jpg&hash=6fcedcab9c1e48f7926c22154a8f3dbcf49fead5)

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 08, 2010, 05:12:34 PM

I think this is what we are lookin for... :IBCOOL:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 08, 2010, 08:28:55 PM

Plans changed, I have to work Thursday, but will still plan on a 3 day weekend.  Keep your fingers crossed, they might have info sent out before the week is out.  Seems they're scrambling to come up with something for us, now that the season is here :dunno: :bash:  Anybody get a different story :dunno:  Good looking call, how's it sound?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 08, 2010, 09:50:22 PM

Thank you for contacting the Wildlife Program.  Due to the large volume of e-mail messages we are currently receiving, our expected response time will be 5 business days from the date of receipt.

If you need immediate assistance, please contact our customer service desk at (360) 902-2515.

We appreciate your patience.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 02:20:39 PM

Just to stir the pot a little, if Weyerhauser is allowed to hunt bears in the unit during our "Spring Damage" season, why cant we ?
Or use bait ?
as the law reads....
RCW 77.15.245
Unlawful practices — Black bear baiting — Exceptions — Illegal hunting — Use of dogs — Exceptions — Penalties. 

(1) Notwithstanding the provisions of RCW 77.12.240, *77.36.020, 77.36.030, or any other provisions of law, it is unlawful to take, hunt, or attract black bear with the aid of bait.

     (a) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the killing of black bear with the aid of bait by employees or agents of county, state, or federal agencies while acting in their official capacities for the purpose of protecting livestock, domestic animals, private property, or the public safety.

     (b) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prevent the establishment and operation of feeding stations for black bear in order to prevent damage to commercial timberland.

As permit holders we are "agents of the state" and are "protecting" private property, and preventing damage to commercial timberland..... :chuckle:

Not that I have any desire to bait, but I am a little P.O.ed about this whole thing.... :bash:

Got the mail today, no packet.... :bash:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 09, 2010, 02:29:39 PM

I agree. Hunters should be allowed to bait, in this case because the hunt is soley on private timber company land, and supposedly is for the purpose of "protecting private property." I think if the WDFW wanted to, they could set up some spring hunts in which hunters would be allowed to bait and it would be perfectly legal according to the way the law is written. Since they have hound hunters in there it would only make sense to allow guys who aren't using hounds to use the next best method and that is bait.

I have other questions about the spring bear hunts and I think either a letter or a phone call to the manager of this program is in my near future. Biggest question.... why is state land in the Lincoln GMU not open for the spring bear permit hunt ??? No hound hunting is allowed on state land, so non-hound hunters should be on the state land while the hound hunters are on the private. But I guess that would make too much sense.  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 02:32:44 PM

I don't know who is in charge of the program, but have sent e-mails to...
director@dfw.wa.gov; publicaffairs@dfw.wa.gov; wildthing@dfw.wa.gov; teamvancouver@dfw.wa.gov; scott.brummer@dfw.wa.gov
Not that I think it will do any good, but I am getting my shorts in a bunch... :P

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 09, 2010, 02:36:44 PM

I believe this is the person you should be contacting about this:

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Donny Martorello, Ph.D., Carnivore, Furbearer, and Special Species Section Manager, Wildlife Program

The other email addresses you used are good too, but be sure to include Donny as well.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 02:44:41 PM

I cannot find an e-mail address for him.. :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 09, 2010, 02:46:14 PM

donny.martorello@dfw.wa.gov

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 02:49:39 PM

Thank you, e-mail sent... :twocents:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 09, 2010, 02:51:44 PM

Don't expect to hear back from him though. I sent him an email a couple weeks ago and didn't get a response.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bearmanric on April 09, 2010, 07:28:20 PM

I've made to waverly iowa. close to minasota. the call is killer. I have 7 left. yellerdog is cnc more tonight for me. they will be there this coming week. Rick

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 09, 2010, 08:14:13 PM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 02:20:39 PM

Just to stir the pot a little, if Weyerhauser is allowed to hunt bears in the unit during our "Spring Damage" season, why cant we ?
Or use bait ?

As permit holders we are "agents of the state" and are "protecting" private property, and preventing damage to commercial timberland..... :chuckle:

Not that I have any desire to bait, but I am a little P.O.ed about this whole thing.... :bash:

Got the mail today, no packet.... :bash:

I agree and have posed this question to the board here and to the old AHE about allowing AHE/MH bait during a permit season. F&W said no, and the huntwa board did not like the idea of allowing AHE/MH the opportunity to bait.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 09, 2010, 09:21:24 PM

It is all just sounding off, I am sure we will have more information before the 15th, I went scouting again and got to look around, I think maybe the dogs might get them moving for us....
Snow up high, no tracks or sign, other than near where I already found some...(Still looks like elk to me, but I am new)
Looked around some swamp land near Doty, couldnt see anything to excite me, Skunk cabbage and green grass everywhere.....
Now that I have calmed down, I really don't care what they decide, I get to hunt bear until June 15th, and last year I could have gotten one on April 17th, They probably had dogs after them then 7 days a week.... :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2010, 06:31:53 PM

15th is getting close. :dunno:  Decided to drive up today and scout a  little.  No maps available at 2 locations in Chehalis where 800# says available :bash:  No packets of info yet >:(  Marked a couple potential campsites.  Jumped a turkey beside the road, it flew strait uphill gaining elevation like a fighter pilot :yike:  Guess I'll be hitting it cold. :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 11, 2010, 06:50:42 PM

I have been looking for turkey, and only finding crap, unfortunately not turkey either, I did see 15 head of elk this morning....

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 11, 2010, 06:52:55 PM

Besides bear turds and tracks, we saw a couple deer and I swore I heard a turkey. :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 11, 2010, 06:56:26 PM

Well...We can negotiate....
I am interested in any turkey sightings, If you are not after Turkeys and find some, I am interested.....
I will provide any information I have if you put me on some of those f@ng birds......

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 11, 2010, 07:30:55 PM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2010, 06:31:53 PM

15th is getting close. :dunno:  Decided to drive up today and scout a  little.  No maps available at 2 locations in Chehalis where 800# says available :bash: 

Did you try Sunbirds in Chehalis?

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2010, 07:35:08 PM

Quote from: bobcat on April 11, 2010, 07:30:55 PM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2010, 06:31:53 PM

15th is getting close. :dunno:  Decided to drive up today and scout a  little.  No maps available at 2 locations in Chehalis where 800# says available :bash: 

Did you try Sunbirds in Chehalis?

yup, none available

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: billythekidrock on April 11, 2010, 07:40:07 PM

Quote from: bobcat on April 11, 2010, 07:30:55 PM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 11, 2010, 06:31:53 PM

15th is getting close. :dunno:  Decided to drive up today and scout a  little.  No maps available at 2 locations in Chehalis where 800# says available :bash: 

Did you try Sunbirds in Chehalis?

Coulda told ya that. I was told by a site member that they were out and probably wouldn't get anymore until just before deer season.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: madmack76 on April 11, 2010, 08:58:17 PM

you know i might know a guy that has a couple maps he'd give up

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 13, 2010, 05:23:45 AM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 11, 2010, 06:56:26 PM

Well...We can negotiate....
I am interested in any turkey sightings, If you are not after Turkeys and find some, I am interested.....
I will provide any information I have if you put me on some of those f@ng birds......

Get your PM? :dunno:

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2010, 07:11:45 AM

Looks like there is no need to purchase a Weyerhaeuser map. The one they are providing for free is pretty decent and all a person should need.

Title: Re: lincoln a
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 13, 2010, 09:18:55 AM

Quote from: Ghost Hunter on April 13, 2010, 05:23:45 AM

Quote from: STIKNSTRINGBOW on April 11, 2010, 06:56:26 PM

Well...We can negotiate....
I am interested in any turkey sightings, If you are not after Turkeys and find some, I am interested.....
I will provide any information I have if you put me on some of those f@ng birds......

Get your PM? :dunno:

P.M. sent in response....Thank you !
I hope it helps.... :archer: